Jim Harbaugh's 'Equity' And 49ers Free Agents
NFL Free Agency gets going in approximately six weeks. Until then, teams will have an exclusive negotiating window to get deals done. The 49ers have plenty of their own free agents to consider before they move on to consider outside options in free agency and the draft.
When Coach Harbaugh wrapped up the season at his press conference on Monday, he twice mentioned how players had built up equity with the team. He was asked first about the idea of players coming off this great year but still ending up somewhere else:
You've talked throughout the year you like this team. Obviously there's going to be turnover. How difficult is that going to be when that process comes to see some of the guys who were contributors on this team go other places?
"Well, I think a couple things there. If a player could just make significantly more money going to another team than we would be willing or able to pay them, then I would be happy for those players. But, we're going to compete. We're going to compete for the guys that played 16 games, who were consummate team guys. That's what I've told them and that's what we'll do. The grass isn't always greener. And our players have built up a lot of equity here. With me, with our coaches, with our organization and then people, they're going to make the best decisions for their family, themselves, and that'll be life happening. But, hopefully they've enjoyed their season here and being a part of this team, and we'll see how it shakes out."
He was later asked about how much better he feels he knows the team as compared to last offseason:
How much better positioned are you this offseason to evaluate your team based on that you coached them all year, as opposed to last year, you came in and probably had to study the tape. How much more confident do you feel knowing the team?
"Significantly, and that's obvious. Do I know them? Yeah, I'm around them every day. Significantly more. There's equity built up in that."
The 49ers are in an interesting position given how this season went. They had a very solid year built around a cohesive unit. The team seemed to develop an atmosphere where most people were happy and enjoyed the situation. There were some instances of displeasure at times, but for the most part, everybody seemed to love Coach Harbaugh and the 49ers experience in 2011.
We've heard Carlos Rogers indicate he would consider a team discount given the situation. That does not mean everybody will take a little less to stick around, but it will make for an interesting February and March. Equity on one side of the equation does not guarantee sufficient equity on the other side.
Once some of these guys hit the open market, how easily does that equity get forgotten? Will we get to see some of Coach Harbaugh's college recruiting skills come into play?
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Thinkin" we'll find out , whom wants to get Paid and whom wants to win a SuperBowl ...!!
I'm your " Huckelberry "...it's just my game ..( .AleX ) was asked , what do you think about all the game manager talk ... AleX i guess i just managed myself a VIctory ... Extend the Man ...!!
NFL == Not for Long ...!!
Players are one play away from a career-ending injury
Unless someone already has big money in the bank, every pro football player will want to get paid.
Another thing to consider for those players who are sacrificing money for a shot at Lombardi — it doesn’t matter how all of them play since mistakes by just one player can end a Super Bowl run. Even a 15-1 season by the Packers came to a crashing halt.
Still, as Walsh used to say: You make sure that you establish permanent base camp up there, so that you can begin a fresh assault on the peak every season.
I guess the make up of the mountaineering team can change every season.
Nice cliche" , but they've been one hit away since they were Eight years of age ...
… then there’s the over generalization of …
…every pro football player will want to get paid…
… Then you have players like Rodgers , who knows how bad it sucks to be else where , others that know only Football , not much outside of that , so there are some willing to be in a well run Organization with a Top Notch Coaching staff just waiting to be lead to the promise land …!!
I'm your " Huckelberry "...it's just my game ..( .AleX ) was asked , what do you think about all the game manager talk ... AleX i guess i just managed myself a VIctory ... Extend the Man ...!!
rogers has also made about 20million+ in his career so far
"You know whats funny? I always thought uhm dogs lay eggs and I learned something new today" Peter Griffin
by HUNGRY HUNTER on Jan 28, 2012 1:08 AM PST up reply actions
good points, both of you. guess the truth must be somewhere inbetween.
9er/chiefs fan from berlin – berlin is in germany – not a native speaker – mistakes may occur
Im only one car ride away from death
and i dont get paid :(
15-1 Packers team was the weakest 15-1 team ever.
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on Jan 28, 2012 5:42 PM PST up reply actions
Love it
with the winning and a guy like Jim Harbaugh, he could essentially pay for himself in player discounts of those that will take a pay cut to stay part of this big red and gold machine.
Honorary parent of Duane Kuiper, beloved solar powered broadcaster and power hitting coach for the Giants.
Home Town Discounts vs Equity
I’m thinking that of the six guys I consider Top Priority to get resigned, Alex Smith, Carlos Rogers, Joshua Morgan, Adam Snyder, Ahmad Brooks and Dashon Goldson only Smith and Rogers are highly likely to give much of a home town discount.
Yes, I know that Ted Ginn, Blake Costanzo, C.J. Spillman and Larry Grant are guys we should also try to resign and maybe some of them would look at a home town discount quicker that some of the previous list. At least I’m hoping they would
All these guys performed at a level that built up equity (More Money For Them) and a few might take a little less than someone else might offer to stay here, but it’s a business and we will need to be highly competative to keep them.
Heck I don’t know what’s wrong with these guys going after Big Bucks, most of us wouold pay to be on the team!
We would like to keep them but contract time gets funny, not always in a humorous way.
Josh will be cheap
He hasn’t had a break out year, and he is coming off a injury. I think he is a non issue. I can’t blame anyone trying to get their money but I can respect guys who have bought into the system and want to play here. We have money and we should spend it making the best team we can. That means making hard choices on guys like Goldson who are going to want to break the bank. Ginn will be back, he took a pay cut to stay here this year and will now probably get paid more after the year he had.
I think that even though most of the guys on that list had good years none of them except for DG are going to be asking for top dollar. Future looks bright.
DGold can be had for pretty cheap with the franchise tag...
and the threat of using it will give the FO some additional leverage in negotiations. I believe the figure was like 6.4 million or something. We offered him a 5 year/$25 million deal in the offseason, so one year at that price isn’t bad at all. I think he resigns though. I think we might even get him on a similiar deal as last year, maybe 5 years/$28 million with some sweet incentives for playing time and production. The tag buys us at least one more year…
Hey, remember that one time when we were arguing and I was wrong? Yeah, me either.
by SanFranSoldier on Jan 27, 2012 9:22 PM PST up reply actions
Somebody might be willing to pay Josh.
He and Kenny Britt were putting up similar numbers prior to the injury. We should shaft the guy. Give him a 4 or 5 year deal for 15 million
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on Jan 28, 2012 5:52 PM PST up reply actions
Money talks
The rest walks. Cachet or equity probably more an element with more ‘mature’ players. Young guys want to establish, and money is the prime definer.
That said, we have cap space, intelligent FO, AND a one season track record of success. Our defense has a shelf life. Time to MOVE!
by TheCatch81 on Jan 27, 2012 3:12 PM PST via mobile reply actions
This is true
But also why I think we have a decent chance with a number of our UFA’s. At a certain point in their careers it hits them that time is running out to do what really matters to NFL players – reach the Super Bowl. Given the success of the team and the coaching staff this year, I do think that will be a big motivational factor for a number of UFA’s that re-sign.
by ColoradoNiner on Jan 27, 2012 4:57 PM PST up reply actions
Turnover
As much as I would love all our guys to stay, it ain’t going to happen, and I’m more than OK with that. With draft picks who will contribute just like the 2011 draft class did (hopefully anyway), and a free agency period where SF will be one of the most attractive places to go, this team will only improve with turnover. The only area I’m concerned about is the secondary. If Carlos and Dashon get big offers elsewhere and decide to split, they would both be difficult to replace this offseason. But of course, I have full faith in our front office and coaching staff and expect to be super bowl champs next season.
The Ring
Player are always sayin it’s “The Ring” as in Super Bowl ring. We will see if it’s “The Money” or really “The Ring”. As the 49ers sit now if they land a quality Wide Receiver or 2 and upgrade here and there. They will definitely contend AGAIN for the Super Bowl. 2 or 3 million more sounds like a lot; but when you take out agents commission, taxes, etc. it loses quite a bit. So I hope we have some REAL team player who’ll stick around for a little less money.
Well the saying goes...
with enough money one can buy ‘a’ ring, but no amount of money can buy ‘the’ ring
He strikes me as a guy who would cut people without blinking an eye.
Equity, schmequity. ALl about winning for him.
Think it's also about progress and buying in
As a former player he understands that some guys take development, but he’ll have no patience for guys stuck at a level below where they need to be.
Every time Jamie Dukes says something enlightening and informative about football Jerry Rice and I mount up on our flying grizzly bears and claim pirate treasure from the moon. That's how often it happens.
I saw carlos rogers on jim rome show n he said he really wants to stay here n i think
he will ,finally we are a attractive team team 2 go 2 before it was because we could offer the most money now its were a team that can contend n possibly win a SB.Now when free-agency hit we will be one of those teams that the top free-agents visit first oh hell yea.
by Jayubb415rebirth on Jan 28, 2012 9:51 PM PST reply actions

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