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Senior Bowl Winners and Losers


There were many players who impressed and a few who didn't and a few who showed us what we thought they were and nothing more and nothing less. This is a look at the game this Saturday as well as the week of practice leading up to the biggest game alot of these young men will have played in their career.

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Who's Stock is up?

Quinton Coples, DE, North Carolina

The highest-ranked prospect at the Senior Bowl showed us all why with a great performance all week. Quinton Coples repeatedly beat his opponents with speed and power. Coples also anchored against the run very well and held outside contain like a pro. He was able to beat Zebrie Sanders and Cordy Glenn in the one on one pass-rush drills. They are both considered 1st round picks, and at 6 foot 5 281 lbs he has ideal size and speed. Look for Coples to be a top 10 pick in this years draft.

Joe Adams, WR/KR, Arkansas

Adams had a fumble early but came back strong in the game and caught eight balls for 133 yards. All week in practice and the game he broke tackle after tackle. He proved why he is such a dynamic return man. And looks to project as a slot WR at the next level. Look for Adams to hear his name called on the second day of this years draft.

Juron Criner, WR, Arizona

Juron Criner is someone I was high on before the senior bowl but he has proved why I felt so highly about him. Criner was able to beat good corners all week including potential first rounder Janoris Jenkins. Criner runs good routes, has good hands and amazing body control. Criner also made a few highlight reel catches over the week proving he has the concentration to hall in those tough ones. He might have risen to the second round but is a sure fire bet to be off the board by the end of the third round. With a good 40 time at the combine his stock could rise even higher being that his speed is the only question he really needs to answer.

Kendall Reyes, DT, Connecticut
Reyes had a very good week in one on one drills. He showed a surprising burst and a great bull rush. He did not rack up great numbers in his college career but did himself alot of good this week. Reyes looks like a second day selection as a 4-3 DT or a 3-4 DE.

Mike Adams, OT, Ohio State

Alot of so called experts were worried Adams stock was gonna take a huge dip going up against the south's potent pass rushers, but instead he cemented himself as a top 15 pick. He dominated Quinton Coples and Courtney Upshaw. He showed he can handle a speed rush aswell as has the strength to stuff a bull rush. Look for him to be in the first half of this years draft.

Vinny Curry, DE/OLB, Marshall

I caught alot of heat when I put him at the tail end of the first round in my first mock draft, but he has shown everyone he is a force to be reckoned with. He showed up bigger than pass-rushers like Melvin Ingram and Courtney Upshaw. Curry was in the backfield all day even getting a strip-sack aswell as his pressure forcing an interception. Watch out for Curry late on day one or very early day two of this years draft.

Honorable Mentions

Doug Martin, Courtney Upshaw, Melvin Ingram, Marvin Jones, Cordy Glenn, Isaih Pead


Who's Stock Is Down?

Zebrie Sanders, OT, Florida State

First off he caught a rough deal having to see Coples, Upshaw and Ingram all week. But the ideas of him being a left tackle are over. At this point he is not ready to see a teams number one pass rusher week in week out. He did slightly better later in the week and showed he wants to compete and get better but his stock has fallen from mid first round to late first and maybe a second day pick, seeing as he seems limited to right tackle at this point.

Dwight Jones, WR, North Carolina

At 6 foot 3 226 lbs he has great size but he did not show the ability to use it. His route running was awful at best. He was unable to get separation and seemed to lack a real competitive instinct. He will need a great combine to even sniff a chance at being selected on day two.

Chris Polk, RB, Washington

Polk looked sluggish hitting the hole and running in the open field. He was unable to pick up blitzers and his route running leaves alot to be desired. His speed will be called into question after this week and will need to answer the bell at the combine if he doesn't want to slip out of the second round.

DeVier Posey, WR, Ohio State

Posey had multiple chances to seize the moment but instead killed his draft stock. He dropped multiple passes one of which would have been a touchdown. He also quit on a route resulting in a Kirk Cousins interception in the redzone. He is gonna end up as as a late pick on day 3 unless he has a monster combine.

Jeff Fuller, WR, Texas A&M

Fuller honestly didn't hurt his stock too much because there were already questions about his hands and work ethic. He dropped easy passes time after time in practice and then again in the game. Dropping a potential touchdown in the first half. He does not run his routes with much conviction and he seems to be a guy with all the skills but not much want to in him. It is sad because he has the talent to do well but seems Fuller is his own weakness.

Now someone I wanted to say something about is Kellen Moore. This guy seems to have all the intangibles you would want in a QB. Now his arm is not elite and does not get the zip on it that you would like to see, but he is deadly accurate and throws with great anticipation. If a few WR's could learn to catch the ball he easily has 1 or 2 TD passes and maybe the MVP of the game. He will be somebody's back up for the next 10 years and be dang good at it. But if he could get in the right system, maybe a true west coast system he could start in this league. Maybe never make a pro bowl but he would not be the reason you lose games!

Poll
Who most impressed you this week at the senior bowl?
Quinton Coples
15 votes
Juron Criner
6 votes
Janoris Jenkins
4 votes
Melvin Ingram
3 votes
Courtney Upshaw
0 votes
Marvin Jones
5 votes
Mike Adams
2 votes
Joe Adams
3 votes
Isaiah Pead
5 votes
Brandon Weeden
1 votes
Doug Martin
2 votes
Cordy Glenn
0 votes
Kendall Reyes
0 votes
Other (please specify)
2 votes

48 votes | Poll has closed

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Mike Adams isn't a Top 15 pick.

Top 30 quite possibly. He won’t go before 20 though.

Most impressive – Kellen Moore.

Gimme 1 round!

by ItBurnzWhenIP on Jan 29, 2012 1:51 AM PST reply actions  

Line played well and gave him lanes to pass through. So long as he has passing lanes he'll step into them and be fine

We won’t know how the height effects him til he plays behind a subpar interior line

Gimme 1 round!

by ItBurnzWhenIP on Jan 29, 2012 2:25 AM PST up reply actions  

It was more a matter of a lot of people (especially the WRs) being utterly unimpressive

In reality the best guy on the field was Quinten Coples but we all knew that already. He dominated whoever was across from him but he was supposed to do that. Kellen despite supposedly sucking all week came out and played well. Threw 2 nice passes in a row that should have been touchdowns except McNutt dropped the first and Posey dropped the second.

Foles also looked pro caliber.

Gimme 1 round!

by ItBurnzWhenIP on Jan 29, 2012 2:38 AM PST up reply actions  

Yeah well he blocked the “Best Guy on the Field” very well. So if Coples is a top 5 talent then the guy that can block him will go in the top 15. No one wanted to hear me about Vinny Curry or Criner and now everyone is loving on them.

by San Fran Niners on Jan 29, 2012 9:31 AM PST up reply actions  

No that's not how it works.

There are 3 Tackles well ahead of him and its not like he gave up no pressures to Coples. Coples beat him even though he did a pretty good job on him.

Gimme 1 round!

by ItBurnzWhenIP on Jan 29, 2012 11:49 PM PST up reply actions  

Kellen Moore

He would be really good in a WCO

by sundaysfinest on Jan 31, 2012 3:42 PM PST via iPhone app up reply actions  

Joe Adams seems like the type of WR harbaugh is looking for

quick slants and screen passes are a large part of the WCO. Adams speed and ability to break tackles makes it seem like he’d be a perfect fit.

Still think we need a big WR, Criner impressed me, he plays like a big WR even though he’s only 6’2. Maybe we just need to pick up a big 6’4" receiver in the FA.

by reedkrase on Jan 29, 2012 9:19 AM PST reply actions  

Seems like we never run slants and when we do they get batted down most of the time.

"I believe in you guys in the media. I believe that you will find a way to doubt this team. Just as long as what's written is written against us we'll be happy." - Jim Harbaugh

by SanFranciscoKnights on Jan 29, 2012 12:05 PM PST up reply actions  

The slant

Must be “thrown open”. If you wait to see it open it’s too late. You have to read the linebacker at the snap and decide on the throw before you hit drop depth. So saying that Alex “stared it down” like some people want to isn’t very good criticism. You have to check that backer immediately if you want to make that throw.

If the backer has underneath zone responsibility — and many teams are flooding the short zones against us, the throw has to be quicker and in a much tighter window — and your receiver has to have separation immediately off the LOS. If he doesn’t you don’t have a chance.

But if teams are taking away the slant — press coverage or linebackers biting on the underneath zones you can defeat them by linking another route in combination with the slant. Let’s say a Slant – Out. If the LB is coming down and the CB is sticking tight, a TE should be able to hit that 8 yard out with ease — and since it’s the same side your QB has an easy high / low read.

Us older Niner-faithful remember teams trying to take away #80 on the slant and Montana would burn them up with those out routes to Brent Jones and when they would bring a safety down to take away Jones then Jerry would turn his slant into a go and with no over the top help it was 7 points.

But we don’t do any of that because we don’t have a damn clue what we are doing.

Basically from a fundamental standpoint we know how to design running plays that attack defenses and force responses that open up other avenues of assault — but we are completely clueless on how to do the same through the air. It’s like we are creating passing plays by assembling a random collection of routes, and then calling them in a random sequence.

There are some talent issues at quarterback and wide receiver that aren’t helping out — but this passing offense is also very poorly designed and relies primarily on getting matchups.

Every time Jamie Dukes says something enlightening and informative about football Jerry Rice and I mount up on our flying grizzly bears and claim pirate treasure from the moon. That's how often it happens.

by Ougadas on Jan 29, 2012 2:18 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

I just got a football boner.

Repeating something over and over doesn't make it true.

by Arkie49er on Jan 29, 2012 7:06 PM PST up reply actions  

Wow, that explains a lot, thanks.

"I believe in you guys in the media. I believe that you will find a way to doubt this team. Just as long as what's written is written against us we'll be happy." - Jim Harbaugh

by SanFranciscoKnights on Jan 29, 2012 10:48 PM PST up reply actions  

We'll see how that goes going into the 2nd year.

I don’t think we’ll see too much advancement of the offense beyond year 3 to 4 but there should be a significant jump between year 1 and 2 if Harbaugh is as good as we think.

Gimme 1 round!

by ItBurnzWhenIP on Jan 29, 2012 11:54 PM PST up reply actions  

Year 3 should be the best of the first 3. It shoudl be extremely significant. Especially since you said Alex is gooing to get better.

Its got to b true.

1. Kelechi Osemele, OT/G, Iowa State
2.Xavier Rhodes CB FSU/ Vinny Curry OLB/DE Marshall/ LaMichael James*, RB, Oregon
3. Brandon Boykin, CB/KR/PR, Georgia/ Alex Okafor*, DE, Texas
4. DeMarlo belcher WR Indiana
5. Casey Hayward, CB, Vanderbilt
6. Marvin Jones WR Cal
7.T.J. Barnes*, DT/NT, Georgia Tech

by rlott#42 on Jan 30, 2012 12:09 AM PST up reply actions  

Needs to be thrown open, I like that.

How would you assess Smith’s ability to throw players open?

1. Kelechi Osemele, OT/G, Iowa State
2.Xavier Rhodes CB FSU/ Vinny Curry OLB/DE Marshall/ LaMichael James*, RB, Oregon
3. Brandon Boykin, CB/KR/PR, Georgia/ Alex Okafor*, DE, Texas
4. DeMarlo belcher WR Indiana
5. Casey Hayward, CB, Vanderbilt
6. Marvin Jones WR Cal
7.T.J. Barnes*, DT/NT, Georgia Tech

by rlott#42 on Jan 30, 2012 12:08 AM PST up reply actions  

Considering what he's been asked to do

Still average at best. Usually below.

Every time Jamie Dukes says something enlightening and informative about football Jerry Rice and I mount up on our flying grizzly bears and claim pirate treasure from the moon. That's how often it happens.

by Ougadas on Jan 30, 2012 12:21 AM PST up reply actions  

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