January 29 49ers 7-round mock draft
For entertainment purposes. Let me know what you think...
Retained Free Agents:Carlos Rogers, Alex Smith, Ahmad Brooks, Ted Ginn, Adam Snyder, Brock, Josh Morgan, Will Tukuafu, Castanzo, Gooden
Gone: Chilo Rachal, Dashon Goldson, Grant, Reggie Smith, Norris, Peele, Swain, Madieu Williams
1.30 OG/OT Cordy Glenn, Georgia, 6-6 346 5.28
A huge road grader. Could probably play OT but in this case coming in to take over Snyder's RG spot and his ability at RT provides added flexibility for any future injuries. Alternates to this pick are Peter Konz C/G, Mike Adams OT, Kelechi Osemele G. Both Konz and Adams will probably be off the board by #30, however if Adams were available he would be a huge upgrade over Anthony Davis against the speed rush at RT and would allow Davis to move inside and dominate at RG. Note: Adam Snyder is only retained if he comes at a reasonable price.
2.62 FS Markelle Martin, Oklahoma, 6-1 203 4.47
This draft class does not look deep at FS but Markelle Martin should be an upgrade from Dashon Goldson. With 6 picks and a trip to the 2011 Pro Bowl, some owner will give Dashon the payout he's been looking for and it will be more than he is worth. He's probably headed to the Redskins! Markelle is an immediate upgrade. If Markelle is not available then we should use this pick for the best rush OLB/DE or DT on the board.
3.94 WR Tommy Streeter, Miami, 6-4 215 4.49
Coming out early as a junior and the hype on him has been surprisingly quiet. He's tall. He's fast. And he has decent ball skills. He'll be a scary player to defend against as he matures and adds weight. If he's not available then WRs Stephen Hill or Juron Criner are good alternatives here.
4.126 CB Omar Bolden, Arizona St, 5-10 195 4.49
Our CBs are better than the general perception that the fans and media have. Rogers was awesome in his first year as a 49er, Brown is young and played pretty good, Culliver looks like a future star, and I think we got a couple of guys on the IR or PS that we haven't even seen yet. However, if we can get Omar Bolden here then it's a steal. He would be going a lot higher if he had not injured his knee last spring. He's a play maker with high upside at this spot. Another potential steal who might drop is Brandon Boykin who just broke his leg at the Senior Bowl. That was unfortunate for Brandon because he was one of the top CBs at the Senior Bowl throughout last week.
5.157 WR Marvin Jones, California, 6-2 198 4.53
The 49ers WR situation was dire enough that I think they might double dip in the draft, as well as pickup a free agent. I mean Brett Swain and Joe Hastings? I doubt the Giants put much thought into game planing for those two before the NFC championship and rightfully so. No disrespect guys, but c'mon man. Marvin just showed his wares at the Senior Bowl. I read that he was mostly used in the slot at Cal, but he showed what he can do on the outside this week. Crisp route runner and sure handed. An alternate here is WR Jordan White who had a huge college career in receptions and yards, and also stepped up with big games against his biggest competition.
6.189 OLB Adrian Robinson, Temple, 6-1 250 4.73
Adrian could have gone anywhere as a highly recruited player coming out of high school, but chose to go to Temple. He played all over the field at Temple and showed potential as a OLB in a 3-4 scheme like the 49ers. I'm guessing he's on a lot of boards as a late round gem, so he may not even be available here. Trevor Guyton DE, Derek Wolfe DE, DaJohn Harris DT are some other defensive front names with upside that the 49ers could be looking for at the back end of the draft.
7.221 RB Edwin Baker, Michigan St, 5-9 210 4.49
Baker is coming out as a junior. He has speed to get to the corner and can run for power between the tackles. There's not much hype on him, but I could see him pushing Dixon for the 3rd spot and has some sleeper potential given his youth and speed. He'll need to demonstrate that he can block and it will be a huge upside if he can show good hands.
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Larry Grant gone? Only by trade, but you fail to specify how he is gone.
He played so well in place of Willis, other team’s fans are begging for him to be traded to their team….
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I suppose if they let him walk it’s sort of like a trade with whatever compensation they get.
by David Fucillo on Jan 29, 2012 9:17 PM PST up reply actions
An RFA that walks...
That’s exactly what I was thinking. Someone will offer him starter money and the 49ers will opt to retain Gooden and Castanzo instead because they won’t want to match the offer for a backup to Willis.
the team that signs him will have to give up a draft pick, i am guesing it will at least be a 4th or 3rd rounder
doubt they will give that up for Grant
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by HUNGRY HUNTER on Jan 29, 2012 9:47 PM PST up reply actions
Nope we have to put in a tender.
If we give him a 2nd round tender we will get a 2nd round pick otherwise we get a 7th rounder because that’s the spot we drafted him in.
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by manraj7 on Jan 29, 2012 11:20 PM PST via iPhone app up reply actions
fine, second round tender is only 1.5 million. done.
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by HUNGRY HUNTER on Jan 30, 2012 12:40 AM PST up reply actions
Yup it's nice.
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by manraj7 on Jan 30, 2012 7:33 AM PST via iPhone app up reply actions
I would expect that with Grant we would do some sort of sign and trade rather than let him walk
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on Jan 30, 2012 12:00 AM PST up reply actions
Do they do that in the NFL?
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by manraj7 on Jan 30, 2012 12:05 AM PST via iPhone app up reply actions
I would assume the player would agree to the trade if it does happen
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Rule #2) Follow rule #1
let me look it up in the NBA trade machine on espn. lol
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by HUNGRY HUNTER on Jan 30, 2012 12:41 AM PST up reply actions
I guess it doesn't work because of the signing bonus. But there is also no way we get compensated with a 2nd for Larry Grant
The Raiders only got a 3rd for Nnamdi.
I would think it would make sense to sign and trade though. It should still work for a guy like Grant. If the Pats went after him to start we could sign him to a deal without much of a signing bonus then trade him to the Pats in exchange for a 2nd round pick.
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on Jan 30, 2012 12:50 AM PST up reply actions
Yah it does happen - NO and Miami did it for Reggie Bush
http://www.fftoolbox.com/football/nfl_news.cfm?news_id=2935
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on Jan 30, 2012 12:53 AM PST up reply actions
Reggie Bush was under contract; he was not a free agent of any kind.
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by HUNGRY HUNTER on Jan 30, 2012 1:03 AM PST up reply actions
how did the raiders get a third for nnamdi, he was not restricted free agent
max compensation for losing a player is 3rd round for UFA; for RFA you can place even a 1st round tender on them! Larry Grant is a restricted free agent not an unrestricted free agent.
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by HUNGRY HUNTER on Jan 30, 2012 1:01 AM PST up reply actions
The difference here is between a compensatory pick
And a pick surrendered under the restricted free agent clause.
In the case of Nnamdi, the pick was granted by the league between the third and fourth rounds for losing a high talent free agent.
In the case of Grant, it would be a second round pick from the team that makes him an offer that we decide not to match. If no team makes him an offer that we will not match, he stays.
Picks surrendered by other teams to get RFAs are always higher round than compensatory picks awarded by the league.
Every time Jamie Dukes says something enlightening and informative about football Jerry Rice and I mount up on our flying grizzly bears and claim pirate treasure from the moon. That's how often it happens.
If we let him walk and get a pick as compensation
the pick should be for this years draft correct?
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A question(s) for Fooch
I keep thinking and hearing that we need to resign X and Y and Z and get A and B in Free Agency and draft P, Q, R etc. But then it runs thru my mind …these people are gonna cost money, how much money? We’ve had a guy come on the site a time or two that’s given some great input on the money side of Football. Any chance we can get some input from him on the front page about what we have “left” and what we can expect to pay to keep so and so and sign so and so? Just an idea.
by ChesapeakeBay9er on Jan 30, 2012 4:05 PM PST up reply actions
front page
We did have a guy. I’ve lost touch with him but we’ll have some information available as we move forward. He runs ninercaphell.com and I’ll be linking there where possible.
by David Fucillo on Jan 30, 2012 9:10 PM PST up reply actions
there should be over 40million in cap room all depends on how much it will increase(the cap)
plenty of room
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by HUNGRY HUNTER on Jan 31, 2012 3:11 AM PST up reply actions
Not saying you're wrong
But right now I would be shocked if Goldson isnt franchised. He might even sign a deal who knows. But Rogers and Goldson would be the only two that they would use it on. And for Goldson it would be like 6 mill compared to 10 mill for Rogers or something along those lines. So like I said I would be shocked if Goldson isnt back
Also to add to my last post
The fact they are so willing to Reggie Smith walk seems like they have Goldson in their plans for next year. I dont think Harbaugh or any coach for that matter would let his two safeties walk hoping he could get one in the draft. Which we all know is not predictable at all.
Wouldn't mind if they kept Goldson
on a franchise tag. Heck, they might still draft M Martin though for back up. I do like the way DG hits!
Not sure on the last comment, it was obvious that Smith plays the position very poorly.
"What the hell are you mixing in that look-aid"
My point was you cant rely on the draft
Maybe there are 3 safeties that Harb likes. Well theres 31 other teams that might like them too. Hard to go into the draft without a starting safety. Have to keep one of them as back up at this point whether or not they are in the future plans
Reggie Smith was not even a quality backup, I am glad they let him go.
1. Kelechi Osemele, OT/G, Iowa State
2.Xavier Rhodes CB FSU/ Vinny Curry OLB/DE Marshall/ LaMichael James*, RB, Oregon
3. Brandon Boykin, CB/KR/PR, Georgia/ Alex Okafor*, DE, Texas
4. DeMarlo belcher WR Indiana
5. Casey Hayward, CB, Vanderbilt
6. Marvin Jones WR Cal
7.T.J. Barnes*, DT/NT, Georgia Tech
Its definitely a well thought out and interesting mock.
I pretty much agree with who the Niners will plan on retaining except for Ginn. I’m not sure if he will be back because I’m thinking he will ask for more money than what the Niners think he is worth. I think a guard would be a solid pick in the first round as it is definitely a need but I think the Niners will find an offensive playmaker there. I like the second round pick, Safety is a huge need and finding someone that can cover better than goldson would be a plus. Because I think that most likely a WR will go in the first round a guard or OLB would be a good pick at three. I completely agree with picking up a corner in the 4th. I was very pleased with how the secondary came together this last season and a CB is not as dire of a need as I thought it was to begin the season. That could all change though if Rogers is not retained. Overall its a very nice mock draft…Thanks for taking the time to post it.
WR in round one is possible
I don’t disagree on a WR in round 1. If it’s Kendall Wright, then I’d say it’s a sure thing but I don’t think he’ll get to us a 30. I’m also not sure about Alshon J, Dwight Jones, or Sanu at the 30th spot compared to guys that are available later like Criner, Hill, Streeter, McNutt, Fuller, etc. I don’t see that much separation between any of those guys.
I’d say that chances are very good that the 49ers either trade up to get Wright if he’s still available around say 20-23 or they trade back to get some extra day two picks.
If they stick at the 30th spot, then I think those OL guys provide the best value.
I definitely don’t see them taking any other skill positions (RB, QB, TE) in that spot.
Thanks for reading and commenting
It's funny how everybody forgets about Toon when he's better than any of the guys you mentioned except perhaps Wright or Alshon.
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on Jan 30, 2012 12:08 AM PST up reply actions
Toon has injury concerns though....
1st round talent if he can stay healthy, but he has had his share of injuries throughout college.
by 9thevolution on Jan 30, 2012 7:44 PM PST up reply actions
Too Slow, we need dynamic WR's.
1. Kelechi Osemele, OT/G, Iowa State
2.Xavier Rhodes CB FSU/ Vinny Curry OLB/DE Marshall/ LaMichael James*, RB, Oregon
3. Brandon Boykin, CB/KR/PR, Georgia/ Alex Okafor*, DE, Texas
4. DeMarlo belcher WR Indiana
5. Casey Hayward, CB, Vanderbilt
6. Marvin Jones WR Cal
7.T.J. Barnes*, DT/NT, Georgia Tech
For once
I agree.
Our guys struggle to get separation in man coverage, and Davis is faster than all of them, though Kyle Williams, pariah at the moment, has shown good quickness.
I think we probably get some o-line talent in the first round, and then after, take a raw but talented WR prospect, and let him develop.
We could use another good safety too, but this class isn’t deep. I wonder what Harbaugh thinks of M. Martin…that’s not a bad guess, actually.
"Football combines the two worst things about America: It is violence punctuated by committee meetings" -George Will
by lottwasgangsta on Feb 1, 2012 10:23 AM PST up reply actions
IMO
While I do like Glenn I don’t see a chance in hell you dont see a skilled position player in the first unless someone drops right in our lap.
by San Fran Niners on Jan 29, 2012 8:50 PM PST reply actions
Kind of with you on that
I think Kelechi is the most likely candidate. He’s pretty impressive too.
Kevin Zeitler?
He looked dang good at the Senior, he could be a good option and possibly better than Kelechi.
by ChesapeakeBay9er on Jan 30, 2012 4:36 PM PST up reply actions
I think Zeitler is good
And currently under-rated. I hope he stays that way, so that we can get him in the second.
Also, if Konz falls to us, that’s our center of the future. Wisconsin’s line this year has been ludicrously good.
Excited to see what Harbaugh can do with another draft.
"Football combines the two worst things about America: It is violence punctuated by committee meetings" -George Will
by lottwasgangsta on Feb 1, 2012 10:26 AM PST up reply actions
Oh I'd take Konz
but Keitler has shown he’s good, and as you noted underrated. I don’t see Konz going to us, he’ll be gone 18-21. There are some good guard pickups (ones that played tackle, guard and even center in college) that we could get.
by ChesapeakeBay9er on Feb 1, 2012 4:52 PM PST up reply actions
No on Sanu.
Yes on Toon
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on Jan 30, 2012 12:08 AM PST up reply actions
Im a big Rutgers fan
Ive seen Sanu up close. You will not be dissapointed if he were a Niner I promise. The only thing that scares me is that he is just like Crabtree. But I still think Crabs is going to be a pro bowler so its ok by me
His routes are horrible
He rounds off all his cuts which gets balls picked in the NFL. No on him.
Yes on this guy — http://nflmocks.com/2012/01/16/nick-toon-2012-draft-scouting-report/
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on Jan 30, 2012 12:24 AM PST up reply actions
+1 to his run block abilities… sounds like a Niner already!
by Mapletreemarty on Jan 30, 2012 7:39 AM PST up reply actions
You aren't wrong
But you can teach a guy not to do that.
That said, I think the WR class this year in general lacks future superstars.
Even Blackmon- I see him being good, but I don’t see him being Megatron, or Larry Fitz.
Would not be entirely surprised to see the long-term best WR from this year be someone like TO or Hines Ward- good, but not great prospects who put together fantastic careers.
Toon’s pretty good, but quite a lot like Crabtree.
"Football combines the two worst things about America: It is violence punctuated by committee meetings" -George Will
by lottwasgangsta on Feb 1, 2012 10:31 AM PST up reply actions
like the draft
I like the draft but what about the RB position? Pead from Cincinnati looked real good in the senior bowl or maybe Martin from Boise state? both are tough inside runners, and with the SF Offence i think you need someone more reliable than Anthony Dixon.
I just don't see the niners letting all of their safeties go
Colin Jones and a rookie as the only safeties would be putting the niners in an extremely vulnerable position. With the way Harbaugh and Baalke think I just don’t see the niners parting ways with Goldson, Smith and Williams just to pick up a rookie in the draft and relying on an unproven 2nd year guy in Colin Jones. I can see them re-signing Goldson, and from all indications Smith is gone. Williams didn’t play all that much during the season, but I don’t see him staying.
especially since colin jones was drafted for special teams
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by HUNGRY HUNTER on Jan 30, 2012 11:33 AM PST up reply actions
Solid mock.
What are everyone’s thoughts on targeting a CB like Alfonzo Dennard or Jenoris Jenkins with the 1st round pick?
I love Carlos Rogers, but I could easily see a Walt Harris situation where he starts to decline in his early 30s.
We can also agree that the pass defense was our weakest spot on defense.
Unless the team thinks Culliver can be a #1 shutdown DB in a few years, I say we need to start looking for a #1 DB.
I would like this
that is IF the corner they like is there, obviously I wouldn’t want them to reach for one.
Denard didn't play that well this year.
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I'd keep Grant and Goldson (and cut Spencer)
Unless Goldson is going to demand Eric Weddle-type money, which he very well could, I think the NIners will keep him by using the franchise tag on him. I love his aggressiveness (even though at times, his aggresiveness leads to missed INTs and missed tackles resulting in touchdowns). Larry Grant was great when Willis went out. I like him a lot and he needs to stay. Peele is a decent veteran, but hopefully Nate Byhum returns to full form and can be a great blocker.
I don’t want the Niners to simply add free agents for depth and only build through the draft. We need to sign a big wide receiver (or 2) We were TOO close not to go after what are most glaring need is, and that is wide receiver. If Culliver becomes the star that I think he can be, then really all we need is some help on the interior O-line and wide receiver, and build depth elsewhere. Of course, all this depends on who we re-sign and how much we pay them.
The franchise tag for safeties is expected to be $6.2 million for one year. The tag for cornerbacks will be around $10.6 million. So it would cost more than $4 million extra for the 49ers to franchise Rogers over Goldson, if the debate over who to franchise is indeed between these two. Plus, the 49ers have nobody behind Goldson to take his spot because Reggie Smith is also scheduled to be an unrestricted free agent, so it would be really dumb to let Goldson and Smith go simply to use a 2nd rounder on a safety. That would be starting from scratch.
by Liquid Pantyhose on Jan 30, 2012 4:08 PM PST reply actions
I think we keep Goldson
But Dashon needs to buy Kyle Williams a nice present, because if it weren’t for his fumbled punts, everyone would be talking about how Goldson broke up two potential INT’s in the NFC championship game, AND put hard hits on two of his teammates in the process.
As to Rogers, pay the man. He’s in his prime, has a couple of years left in it, and has openly expressed an interest in returning to the team at a reasonable price. After playing for Dan the Fan, I can assume he’s bought into what Harbaugh is selling.
"Football combines the two worst things about America: It is violence punctuated by committee meetings" -George Will
by lottwasgangsta on Feb 1, 2012 10:39 AM PST up reply actions
Taking a shot on this
As others noted I’m saying we keep Grant and Goldson, otherwise I pretty much agree with your FA. Now this mock I’m presenting here has a bit of a wangle dangle in that it has a trade. We trade our 1st round pick 30 to the Redskins for their 2nd, 4th, and next years 6th, That gives us their 39 and 103 to add to our choices and we simply move down 9 picks.
Rd 2 Pick # 39 OT Mike Adams or OT Zebrie Sanders or OG Cordy Glen or OG Kevin Zeitler. Worst case scenario one of those 4 turns into our starting Right Guard for a long time. Best case scenario, one of the picks shows to be a better RT than Anthony Davis and Davis moves in to RG and we have a very nice young line for ages.
Rd 2 Pick # 62 CB/S Trumaine Johnson. He will either come into our lineup at CB or be groomed as our replacement for when we lose Goldson.
Rd 3 Pick # 94 WR Tommy Streeter. As GB noted he has size and speed.
Rd 4 Pick # 102 DE/DT Kendall Reyes
Rd 4 Pick # 125 TE Ladarius Glenn
Rd 5 Pick # 157 WR Marvin Jones – Good receiver give him a year to learn and could be great.
Rd 6 Pick # 190 RB/RS Chris Rainey – We need an RS.
Rd 7 Pick # 220 BPA
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