Raiders Coaching Staff Forming A (Former) 49ers Image
by David Fucillo on Jan 31, 2012 4:33 PM PST
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PrintI know this isn't an Oakland Raiders blog, but as the Raiders look to re-make just about their entire organization, it is interesting to watch given the 49ers own experiences with front office and coaching staff changes last year. The Raiders hired Dennis Allen and he is beginning to form out his staff. According to Fox Sports, Greg Knapp is coming on as offensive coordinator and the Greg Manusky has interviewed to be defensive coordinator.
While both guys do have their positive qualities as coaches, I would not exactly call those the most inspiring choices for a new coaching staff. Greg Knapp has gotten some plaudits from T.J. Yates for his work, but his previous time with the Raiders and his other jobs in Atlanta and Seattle didn't exactly lead to rave reviews.
And Greg Manusky is the man of a thousand head-scratching decisions. When the 49ers blew their chance to beat the Saints on Monday Night Football in 2010, I don't think many of us were surprised that the patented bend-but-don't-break Manusky defense blew a chance for a sizable upset.
The 49ers employed a bending defense this year, but there was more aggression from the secondary and a lot more effectiveness from the red zone defense. The 49ers gave up some pretty sizable passing totals during the season, but giving up yards from 20-to-20 is quite a bit different than those end zone yards.
The Raiders have some solid talent to build around, but with Knapp as OC and Manusky an option at defensive coordinator, is Dennis Allen stumbling right out of the gates?
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Ha Ha Gregg Knapp
The problem is you give him QBs of all different talent levels and he gets them all to play like TJ Yates.
the very notion of considering manusky
to be your DC is asking for trouble. the hiring of dennis allen, and then his interest in both knapp and manusky already, sounds like the same old raiders making the same old mistakes. who knew their idiocy could bring such joy…..
Manusky isn't that bad, more like middle of the road at this point
Given his experience level he is ahead of the curve compared to most of his peers. Fangio ran almost the same scheme with better talent. Fangio has a definite edge in understanding coverage over Manusky. As far as the front seven, ran the same defense.
fangio almost ran the same scheme?
i disagree. fangio was much more aggressive when the situation called for it. manusky had reasonable talent at san diego, and they regressed significantly. mediocrity is his ceiling.
He did not have reasonable talent in San Diego. Barely one Pro Bowl player. He was essentially fired because someone had to get the axe and the owner didn’t have balls to pull the plug on Norv and AJ.
Aggressive when the situation called for it.
Fangio didn’t blitz much, same rate as Manusky. 80%-90% of the disaster plays on defense were during those rare blitzes. Seriously name the play? It was Fangio getting burned on a rare blitz attempt.
you make the connection between agressiveness and blitzing
which is a correlation that i don’t make. you can be aggressive psychologically with your pressure and disguises without having to blitz. however, with manusky, everyone knew how timid he was, and that was why the defense got shredded in key situations. furthermore, the chargers had shaun phillips and antonio garay as pro bowl alternates last season, and this season they do have one defensive pro bowler, eric weddle. lets not forget that soap, ray-mac and navorro were all on the roster last season, but were infrequently used. he’s taken an above average defense in san diego and made them terrible. manusky was in no way a scapegoat. they regressed, and he deserved to get fired.
Oh they regressed
Because it was a miracle they were ranked so high the year prior. They would have regressed significantly under any coach. In addition, SD offense regressed significantly which put their limited defense in a bigger bind. SD offense the year prior was a big reason the defense had such impressive stats. This year they were turn over central.
Oh please, blaming Manusky for McDonald and Bowman not starting last season. I think the franchise tag on Franklin and Bowman being a rookie had more to do with it.
Only thing I agree with is he is timid on the backend of his defense. I said he his weakness is understanding coverages.
well,
that’s pretty hard to counter. For future references: the word before “period” should never be “sucks”. Delivers a very powerful mental image that is most disagreeable.
I actually think Aldon Smith was the biggest reason Fangio looked good this year
It helps to actually have a pass rush when you send four.
by asmithisaverage on Jan 31, 2012 7:43 PM PST up reply actions
True , I mean dang , If Norv Turner fires you after one year .... O " boy " ...!!
I'm your " Huckelberry "...it's just my game ..( .AleX ) was asked , what do you think about all the game manager talk ... AleX i guess i just managed myself a VIctory ... Extend the Man ...!!
Too Funny .. ( Raiders ) ... have at it ...!!
I'm your " Huckelberry "...it's just my game ..( .AleX ) was asked , what do you think about all the game manager talk ... AleX i guess i just managed myself a VIctory ... Extend the Man ...!!
I like both.....
Napp knows offense and has produced some solid results from QB’s. Manusky’s defense was solid but not nearly aggressive enough although he didn’t have that top tier pass rusher either.
Thinkin" if your a Raiders fan you don't ...!!
I'm your " Huckelberry "...it's just my game ..( .AleX ) was asked , what do you think about all the game manager talk ... AleX i guess i just managed myself a VIctory ... Extend the Man ...!!
Wow...
…not sure what the Raiders are thinking with these moves. They’ve had me scratching my head pretty much this entire offseason.
WCO & 3-4/4-3 Hybrid Defense
Not a lot of places to find coaches for both. Both coaches are capable of the installation even though neither is likely to take a team to greatness.
Just saying
Not long ago morbid curiosity got the best of me and I checked out the Raider SB Nation site(my sister is a Raider fan). This site is so superior to that one and others, I feel we are fortunate to have Fooch and James with their time and effort as well as the rest of the Niner faithful who contribute to this (commitment to excellence) Pun intended!!
Thanks all and Go Niners!!
I'll never forget that game was it us against the vikings jeff garcia was stinking it up
we were getting " slaughtered " gregg knapp was looking over-whelmed with no answer n terrell was walking back n forth letting him have it.I always felt terrell got all the blame now he wasn’t a saint but it wasn’t all on terrell knapp n garcia had something 2 do with it.
by Jayubb415rebirth on Jan 31, 2012 8:56 PM PST reply actions
You mean the not throwing the ball to TO for 3 quarters game plans
Could count on one of those every 3-4 weeks. It happened in that Wildcard Game against the Giants, down big again the offense was forced to throw to TO and here comes another big comeback.
it is rarely one man's fault
but all three got canned. Terrell got the blame because he was the most vocal and visible. TO got a raw deal here but he did himself no favors.
You could
even look at the next season (2003) when we were 7-9 with something like 7 losses by <4 points and finished the season with a positive point differential. We would destroy teams one week, then the next week lose to the browns 13-12. It was maddening.
Proud die-hard of the NFC West Champion San Francisco 49ers!
Whose got it better than us??? NOBODY!
by MetsKnicksRutgers on Feb 1, 2012 5:50 AM PST up reply actions
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