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49ers Regular Season Body of Work Continues to Get "Rodney Dangerfield Treatment"

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We've heard it all year, "The 49ers aren't this, they aren't that, they can't beat XYZ, they won't do this, can't do that, blah blah blah." So what else is new, right? I mean, heck...it seems like the team has done nothing but feed off this sort of rhetoric all season, and that's what they've put together in 2011 is an entire season of performances.

So what else would we expect than to hear people critique the record (13-3) and the team's chances going into the playoffs? I've read, "I'd give Baltimore the best chance at winning the Super Bowl because they're undefeated against playoff teams."

OK...they lost each of their four games to teams NOT in the playoffs (Tennessee, Seattle, Jacksonville and San Diego).

On that note, the 49ers played some playoff teams this season, too, and went 4-1 against those foes...losing to the Ravens on Thanksgiving. We beat Seattle twice, who beat Baltimore themselves.

I'm not making any predictions, just pointing out how easy it is to throw stuff against the wall when it comes to records. Jump with me for more throwing of stuff at said wall.

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It came out this week that New England didn't beat anyone with a winning record this year. Yet they're considered the favorites by many to go to, and win the Super Bowl.

The 49ers beat the Steelers, Bengals, Giants, and Lions...all teams with records over .500. They beat most of these teams (and a few others) when they were "hot" and everyone said the 49ers couldn't unseat them.

New Orleans, also sitting with a 13-3 record, lost to Tampa Bay and St. Louis, two teams the 49ers beat (STL twice). They have some quality wins, though against Atlanta twice, the Giants, Houston, and Detroit. Four playoff teams, all beaten...another loss to the playoff-bound and defending Super Bowl Champion Green Bay Packers.

They didn't play Arizona or Dallas, two teams the 49ers lost to...so it's pretty hard to make a solid case there. If anything the 49ers did just as well against playoff teams AND beat two teams that also beat New Orleans...but again, it's asinine to make some form of predictions based on that alone.

The bottom line is that when people even suggest that the 49ers aren't a good team, it's misguided. Bad teams don't win many games. Average teams do, good and great teams surely do. There's a reason that wins and losses determine just about everything in pro sports and I think a 13-3 record over a 16 game season means we're a pretty darn good team.

Keep all of this in mind when you see the haterz hate.

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by Kidd2Petrovic on Jan 5, 2012 1:42 PM PST reply actions  

aww man swelled up like a grapefruit I bet..

It must be the capris

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by Kidd2Petrovic on Jan 5, 2012 2:24 PM PST up reply actions  

He Tebowed while sliding down...

Anyone else notice that?

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by Drew Kerr on Jan 5, 2012 11:45 PM PST up reply actions  

not until now!

We're as good as we play each week, no better, no worse.

by Tre9er on Jan 6, 2012 7:11 AM PST up reply actions  

Analysts put way too much emphasis on offense

Everyone says that as good as the Niners’ defense is it won’t be able to stop GB and NO. However the Steelers’ defense was able to stop NE, KC’s defense held GB to 14 points and St. Louis’s Defense held Drew Brees to 14 points (the last TD came in garbage time). My point being that I would contest that SF’s D is better than all of those defenses so why is it inconceivable to everyone that the niners have no shot against these teams with super offense and no defense?

Speaking of haters, I’m tired of Jamie Dukes. I know it’s said a lot, but the guy acts like the niners are 3-13 instead of the opposite.

by Method24 on Jan 5, 2012 1:48 PM PST reply actions  

Hater reply:

Steelers’ D shutout the Rams – a team the Niners let score a lot of points.

Over

by cybermaldonado on Jan 5, 2012 2:04 PM PST up reply actions  

yes the 49ers did the first time...

hey Pittsburgh only scored 3 but I already know the hater reply: “But Big Ben was hurt!”

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by Kidd2Petrovic on Jan 5, 2012 2:17 PM PST up reply actions  

like a lot players say

“if your on field / court playing, there is no excuse.”

Coach Harbaugh is the truth!!

by chris z on Jan 5, 2012 2:25 PM PST up reply actions  

on the*

Coach Harbaugh is the truth!!

by chris z on Jan 5, 2012 2:26 PM PST up reply actions  

truth.....

Really don’t care about naysayers. As long as this team keeps winning, the Harbapocalypse will take this nation by storm!!

Niners,Nets,Reds & USC!!!

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by Kidd2Petrovic on Jan 5, 2012 2:38 PM PST up reply actions  

damn straight!

Coach Harbaugh is the truth!!

by chris z on Jan 5, 2012 3:27 PM PST up reply actions  

it doesn't really make sense

to judge a team by either it’s worst game or it’s best game. Of course the 49ers can beat the Saints. They might even be favored at home (I expect the spread to be even or -1 SF)… and that means lots (1/2) of betters think the 49ers can win.

[Poorly Wrought THING] is what Brian Sabean would have made if he were a [THING-maker] instead of a MLB GM

by zenbitz on Jan 5, 2012 2:45 PM PST up reply actions  

any team in the playoffs (except maybe the tebows)

has a good chance to beat anyone in the playoffs. whether your the home team or not.

Coach Harbaugh is the truth!!

by chris z on Jan 5, 2012 3:29 PM PST up reply actions  

I think the 49ers are getting plenty of support for beating the Saints

it’s the concept of winning 3 in a row that gets ‘em. The 49ers “high” hasn’t been very high this year and it’s sort of expected that they’ll need to bring something higher for at least 1 if not all 3 of said victories.

I can’t blame the doubters. I think much of the fan base still, deep down, like this will be 1 and done. If you had to lay your life down on the Packers, Saints, or 49ers.. I mean.. c’mon.. you’d put it on the Packers.

That being said, it’s the NFL playoffs, look at the teams that go 1 and done every year. These games are 60-40 at their most extreme ( not including the Broncos, what a joke they are ).

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FA: Smith, Morgan, Brooks, Rogers, Snyder

by whistlingmountain on Jan 5, 2012 1:56 PM PST reply actions  

I see no reason for us not to be Super Bowl favorites

Our defense was the best in the NFL hands down. Having a Qb who can throw 450 yards in a game doesn’t go well against a team with a secondary like ours. Hail to the DEFENSE!

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by Sammallory on Jan 5, 2012 2:29 PM PST up reply actions  

lay my life down for san fran

Green bay and n.o. defense scare me. They give up waaaay too many points and yards. Our offense is good enough and our d is amazing not to mention the wonder twins makers and Lee. Give me the niners the whole way.

by texasniner31 on Jan 6, 2012 8:36 AM PST via mobile up reply actions  

I'm not debating your life or what you would lay it down for

you said you see no reason for the 49ers to not be favorites and I gave you several obvious ones.

Draft: 1. Kendall Wright 2. Trumaine Johnson
FA: Smith, Morgan, Brooks, Rogers, Snyder

by whistlingmountain on Jan 6, 2012 9:58 AM PST up reply actions  

i think

The fact that green bay and n.o. have atrocious defenses, and have not played any good teams let alone ones with a defense are obvious reasons people are overlooking. N.O. lost to both the rams AND Tampa. They put up superior numbers against inferior teams both of them. It will bite them in the you know what in the playoffs.

by texasniner31 on Jan 6, 2012 5:00 PM PST via mobile up reply actions  

Side note, only reason anyone likes the Patriots is becaue the AFC is such a mess.

Steelers are in shambles. Bengals went, like the Pats, went 0-7 against winning teams and start a rookie. Houston is starting a 3rd string rookie. Broncos are starting an HBack at QB.

It’s the Pats and the Ravens, but it’s in New England and it’s Tom Brady vs Joe Flacco in the championship.

Draft: 1. Kendall Wright 2. Trumaine Johnson
FA: Smith, Morgan, Brooks, Rogers, Snyder

by whistlingmountain on Jan 5, 2012 1:57 PM PST reply actions  

well that & fact they are a perennial team in the playoffs....

So people are picking who they are familiar with!! But people keep forgetting Pats lost the last two years at home in the divisional & wildcard round.

Niners,Nets,Reds & USC!!!

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by Kidd2Petrovic on Jan 5, 2012 2:06 PM PST up reply actions  

i think it will be the ravens in the superbowl from the AFC

hopefully it will be an all Harbaugh superbowl.

Coach Harbaugh is the truth!!

by chris z on Jan 5, 2012 2:27 PM PST up reply actions  

God I hope not

I can’t stand the cheesy “brother story angle” that gets 40 minutes of coverage in every hour.

Every time Jamie Dukes says something enlightening and informative about football Jerry Rice and I mount up on our flying grizzly bears and claim pirate treasure from the moon. That's how often it happens.

by Ougadas on Jan 5, 2012 2:28 PM PST up reply actions  

well it dont really matter to me whom the 9ERS face

besides its not about the stories, its about the game.

Coach Harbaugh is the truth!!

by chris z on Jan 5, 2012 2:32 PM PST up reply actions  

That's exactly it

I’d like to hear talk about the game, not about the family. When we played the Ravens if you were just listening and not watching most of the time you couldn’t tell there was football going on.

Every time Jamie Dukes says something enlightening and informative about football Jerry Rice and I mount up on our flying grizzly bears and claim pirate treasure from the moon. That's how often it happens.

by Ougadas on Jan 5, 2012 2:37 PM PST up reply actions  

you are right, but

once the game starts its all good. the stories go out the window and the game begins.

Coach Harbaugh is the truth!!

by chris z on Jan 5, 2012 3:26 PM PST up reply actions  

thanksgiving

That’s why they were playing up the family angle

by texasniner31 on Jan 6, 2012 11:37 AM PST via mobile up reply actions  

would be nice though if in the build up, all the talk was about Harbaugh

and not about Alex Smith

Draft: 1. Kendall Wright 2. Trumaine Johnson
FA: Smith, Morgan, Brooks, Rogers, Snyder

by whistlingmountain on Jan 6, 2012 9:58 AM PST up reply actions  

It's all on our defense

If we can get after the QB, whoever it is, and pressure him for 4 quarters then I like our odds against anyone in the NFL. But if we can’t life is going to be rough. There isn’t a secondary in the NFL that can hold for long against the passing attacks we’re going to see.

I get into cussing fits every time I see Aldon on the bench for 1st and 2nd downs while the other team is throwing on "running downs’.

Every time Jamie Dukes says something enlightening and informative about football Jerry Rice and I mount up on our flying grizzly bears and claim pirate treasure from the moon. That's how often it happens.

by Ougadas on Jan 5, 2012 2:01 PM PST reply actions  

Aldon needs to be out there 80% of the time... at least

He would have surely broke the rookie record had he been out there just a bit more… I was kinda sad to see him not get it.

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by Drew Kerr on Jan 5, 2012 11:52 PM PST up reply actions  

It's fun watching him man handle veteran offensive lineman...

And to think he is only going to get stronger with age and experience is scary for a lot of teams. Or should be anyway.

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by Drew Kerr on Jan 5, 2012 11:53 PM PST up reply actions  

Glad were playing NO after DET

I think we’ll have a better chance after the Lions beat up on the Saints this weekend. They play tough, physically style of football. We know that firsthand. They might not be playing as well as earlier in the season but they can still wear down that Saints O-Line. Don’t think they can hold up again tough teams two weeks in a row. This same scenario can be said for the Packers, assuming the Giants beat the Falcons.

by agchee on Jan 5, 2012 2:02 PM PST reply actions  

Skip Bayless has been saying for months now that the Niners can beat the Packers

I know he is not well liked around here. Funny that he has been the Niners’ biggest national supporter outside of Trent Dilfer.

Over

by cybermaldonado on Jan 5, 2012 2:07 PM PST reply actions  

That is what concerns me.

Attack this day with an enthusiasm unknown to mankind. ~ Jack Harbaugh

by Virginia9er on Jan 5, 2012 2:09 PM PST up reply actions  

Maybe

He and Dilfer are the only one’s watching. Because they sound like the only guys actually watching the games. i love it when the “experts” rattle off crap that has no basis in facts.. ie “weak NFC West”

by musamonster on Jan 6, 2012 12:00 AM PST up reply actions  

That is funny!

Seen a few times him giving lots of praise to the team, to coach, and even to Alex.

by agchee on Jan 5, 2012 2:10 PM PST up reply actions  

Haters motivate

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by Drew Kerr on Jan 5, 2012 2:20 PM PST reply actions  

i like how Harbaugh tells the team to "do something about it"

since the 9ERS dont get the respect they deserve

Coach Harbaugh is the truth!!

by chris z on Jan 5, 2012 2:30 PM PST up reply actions  

I'm perfectly happy with all the disrespect.

Lots of bullitin board material for Coach Harbaugh. Besides, didn’t he tell the media early in the season that he wished they would only write negative things, that the Niners couldn’t win such-and-such game?

by BruinMW on Jan 5, 2012 2:32 PM PST reply actions  

exactly!

Coach Harbaugh is the truth!!

by chris z on Jan 5, 2012 2:33 PM PST up reply actions  

Eh

I don’t see that much hate anymore. There’s always gonna be some hooligan like Jamie Dukes that has no idea what he’s talking about, but he rarely does even when it isn’t related to the 49ers.

There isn’t a lot of talk about the 49ers, but that doesn’t necessarily mean people are completely writing them off, they are just going with the flashy explosive offense pick. In addition they recognize that likely having to beat NO and then GB is a tough road for any team. It is the safe bet for them to respect the 49ers, but look elsewhere for their pick.

Also most of the talk this week is of the Wild Card round. Wait til next week, there will be some people on the 49ers bandwagon no matter who the opponent is.

Attack this day with an enthusiasm unknown to mankind. ~ Jack Harbaugh

by Virginia9er on Jan 5, 2012 2:56 PM PST reply actions  

I like the 9ers odds for the first round

These are some scheming coaches we have! Given time, they know how to game plan and this week, along with getting more key players healthy, gives Harbs, Vic, and Roman what they need and benefit from most: planning.
Given that, how many of you would like to see some out-of-the-box play calling on O and D, or do you all think we stick with what got us here, which is predictable, but has been successful so far?
I think if we execute what we have used so far, we will be successful, whether or not the other guys know what’s coming. Maybe just a few wrinkles, but not go to blitzing every down, or spread offense, etc…

Looking to put San Fran*six-o* here some time soon!

by dartdart on Jan 5, 2012 3:57 PM PST reply actions  

Our Niners have spoken so often this year about how they rise to adversity

and I believe it. They do seem to play their best against teams that are favored to beat them. Steelers, Lions, Bucs (at the time), etc.

Call me crazy, but the last team I want to face of the three possibilities is New York. We would be favored over NYG or the Falcons, but major underdogs to the “unstopable” Saints. I know I should be careful what I ask for, but I almost want to face the Saints, just to come in as the underdog in our own house! Unleash Patrick Willis’ fury and the rest of the defense will follow. I actually like our chances at home versus the Saints more than I do against a vengeful Eli Manning (Super Bowl XLII, anybody?).

by BruinMW on Jan 5, 2012 4:17 PM PST reply actions  

KNBR razor's opinion is niners' are just lucky to so far, WDYT?

In tonight’s steve young segment at knbr, the razor offered the following logic: the 49ers are winning so far because of their excellent takeaway-giveaway stat. This stat, according to him, is more or less pure luck (although he admitted there may be an angle of coaching). So he submitted the law of average will even out and sooner or later the ball wont bounce the 9er’s way. And it can happen in any upcoming game. He is apparently one of the doubters.

by hohoholy on Jan 5, 2012 7:40 PM PST reply actions  

razor is the worst

fumble recoveries are pure luck, that’s true. But the 49ers are second in the league in passes defensed and sixth in the league in fumbles forced — meaning that those turnovers they are getting are the result of good defense, not luck. The niners got a few lucky bounces, sure, but even if their fumble recovery rate was league average, they would be still be a top-five team in terms of turnover differential.

by ninerspride on Jan 5, 2012 11:16 PM PST up reply actions  

49ers play a very turnover ratio friendly game style, but they're still about +18 more than they should be

but yea, Alex takes just about no risks

the 49ers have been lucky with not fumbling ( I keep waiting for Gore to fumble it when he runs into the back of a lineman )

their defense has been playing back and allowing short passes, and the nature of the league these days is that they get impatient and go for too much. 49ers defense has made them pay by holding onto the interceptions. That’s not luck in general, but.. is it luck that Rogers has been catching them and not dropping them?

Draft: 1. Kendall Wright 2. Trumaine Johnson
FA: Smith, Morgan, Brooks, Rogers, Snyder

by whistlingmountain on Jan 6, 2012 10:02 AM PST up reply actions  

That's not exactly what he was saying

He was saying that in general it is a stat that comes back to earth and so he, and everyone really, are waiting for it to blow up at some point and have 3 turnovers. He immediately followed that up with, “but it’s been working all season and could keep going” kind of statement.

Draft: 1. Kendall Wright 2. Trumaine Johnson
FA: Smith, Morgan, Brooks, Rogers, Snyder

by whistlingmountain on Jan 6, 2012 10:00 AM PST up reply actions  

Just a note:

The Saints wins against the Giants, Houston, Detroit, and Atlanta (one of them)… all at home. Saints had to beat Falcons on the road in OT.

by musamonster on Jan 6, 2012 12:05 AM PST reply actions  

Difference between "hating" and staying grounded

There has been a lot to be excited about this season, and I am definitely hoping for a showdown against New Orleans because its a game I know the 49ers can win.

But, this talk of super bowl has a shaky foundation. At the end of the day, this is a passing league and the 9ers aren’t elite against the pass. Yes, they get a lot of turnovers, but they also give up a lot of yards per game and we saw some pretty inexcusable breakdowns in the secondary this season: Skleton’s big game in a bad loss, the Rams comeback last week in what should’ve been a big win, overrated Tony Romo with broken ribs mounting a furious comeback with the help of a reality TV WR, the 4th down conversions on the Giants last drive (until Justin Smith saved the day)… There have been more positives than negatives, but the secondary is the chink in the armor that both Brees and Rodgers have the ability to expose.

So it is hard to see the 49ers surviving NO and then upsetting GB, particularly because they don’t have the horses on offense to keep up in a shootout. I am expecting a hard fought win against NO and a good effort in a toss up game to GB that may not go our way because Rodgers is the best QB in the NFL. I’ll be upset if they don’t make the super bowl because I am always upset after a loss, but as long as we beat the Saints i’ll be satisfied.

Next year, though. upgrades at WR and in the secondary and then SB. or. Bust.

by YoungToRice on Jan 6, 2012 7:17 AM PST reply actions  

the way i see it

Sure we can’t stop green bay or NO completely but we will cut their points in half and our offense is good enough to put up points against their bad defenses. It will even out. And you know what they say about defense and championships .

by texasniner31 on Jan 6, 2012 4:42 PM PST via mobile up reply actions  

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