Why are 49er fans the only ones who believe in Alex Smith?
by MichaelClutchtree on Feb 1, 2012 8:30 AM PST
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PrintI just think it's funny how every single analyst fan who isn't a Niner fan seems to have the same thoughts that Alex Smith isn't our future at QB, yet so many people on her think he is. Hmm, I wonder where that disconnect comes from. I wonder if it has to do with that we know how our team is "built" more than other people, ie. that you don't "need" to have a really good QB with our defense and ST, or that we just had to deal with such garbage from him for 6 years that one year of average QB play makes us think all of a sudden he's turning a corner?
I thought that after the NFCCG it was quite clear Alex can't do jack, yet many people on here seem to be very happy or confident with him, possibly because "he had this year with no offseason, imagine him if he did!" like there could be a discernible difference
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Some of those "analysts" don't even know people on our team
Why would you even try to listen to them?
Just my opinion, but people on here actually watch Alex play. Most of those people on tv you can tell don’t actually watch our games.
If you HONESTLY believe Alex is awful and an actual offseason with a competent staff won’t help, there is no point in discussing anything. I know a QB rating above 90 is great for Alex, and I for one want to see what he can do wih a full offseason with this staff. If he can’t get it done after that, we can look at our options.
All this constant bitching about Alex only brings one question: Who is the replacement. Don’t say Josh Johnson, Kaep, or Tolzien. And we aren’t overpaying for Peyton. If people want to complain about the problem, then provide us with us with a possible answer.
If Alex isn’t the answer FOR NEXT YEAR, then who is?
And I’m not defending Alex. I want a sample size WITH THIS STAFF (the first one since Alex has been here I have faith in) to see what he can do in this offseason. If he looks horrible after that, find the answer. But, like I asked, if its not Alex next year, who is a reasonable answer?
"Bears are crazy, Willie. They'll bite your head off if you're wearing steak on it."
by Blank x2 on Feb 1, 2012 8:49 AM PST via mobile reply actions
the fact that you need more of a sample size from
an 8th year QB should tell others enough about who Alex Smith is.
Okay. Whatever you say.
Keep acting like his first couple years are even relevant.
Montana in his prime couldn’t have won may games with that team. Sue me if I want to see Alex with a stable, consistent, and competent staff, cause he’s never had ANY of those.
You, Clutch, and the others keep acting like the circumstances are the same now as his first couple years. Convince yourself and keep hating on him simply to hate.
"Bears are crazy, Willie. They'll bite your head off if you're wearing steak on it."
And you (or anyone else) ignored the point of my post
If you’re fonna keep whining about Alex, tell us what the answer is.
Josh Johnson, Kaep, or Tolzien for next year is laughable.
"Bears are crazy, Willie. They'll bite your head off if you're wearing steak on it."
for what Smith commands in FA
just pluck most backups and they’ll get you similar production (i.e. mediocre) at the league minimum. The Texans have two back ups that hold much more value than Smith, just to name a few examples.
any coach could tell a QB
“all I want for you to do is to not throw picks…don’t take chances” and 3rd stringers could throw 5 picks or less. Just take sacks, or go with the first read etc. etc. etc. WE don’t have to pay $10 mill for that.
Leinart couldn't produce with Fitzgerald and Boldin at WR.
Dude is terrible. I don’t even know why I’m responding to your post.
by Odekerk on Feb 2, 2012 1:04 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Dude
Leinart was only in his first years as a pro then. He needs 3 more years before you can judge him like this…see Smith, Alex. Year 9, Leinart is going to be a stud…
so I see we're measuring non Niner player QBs
differently.
You see the slippery slope. You can’t really justify judging other QBs until they have been given all the tools around them to succeed thus to eliminate possible excuses…if they don’t have competent coaches, they need more time. No weapons? they need more time. Sometimes watching the games helps. Smith might improve some, but not much at this point. Better weapons may increase his production but that won’t change him. SMith is still young, but he’s been a pro for 8 years, minus games missed.
Possibly, but...
Leinart had a decent team around him when he came into the league. He may have been to young at the time, but at least he was given a fighting chance. Alex was thrown in the water with a team that didn’t even know which way was up. The only legitimate continuity that he will have seen in his career will be this offseason. He had some with Singletary, but that was also with incompetent play calling the following season. You can’t say that you didn’t see improvement in his play and confidence this season.
wouldn't you rather have Yates
making $300,000 than Alex Smith making $11 million. It’s like going with the store brand of the same item. It’s the exact same product (maybe works even better) and yet it its price isn’t marked up.
I don't see him making more than 6 or 7 million base salary.
Maybe if they give him an incentive laden one where he gets like 2 million for a Super Bowl win or 500k for 30 TD passes, maybe. Still seriously doubt he’ll be getting 11 million a season.
he made 6 million cause he got to the NFC championship game
his salary was 5 million. I’d say 7M base /3yrs with 1M bonus for one or more playoff win each year would be a decent deal.
Upper limit, but that sounds about right re years/money
-- I have many leather-bound books.
-- You show me a guy that can’t juggle 3 tennis balls within an hour and I’ll show you a guy that’s not going to be in the NFL very long.
by I'm Friends With Merlin Olsen on Feb 2, 2012 2:43 PM PST up reply actions
I think Smith would take that deal...
Don’t know if the 49ers will OFFER that much.
-- I have many leather-bound books.
-- You show me a guy that can’t juggle 3 tennis balls within an hour and I’ll show you a guy that’s not going to be in the NFL very long.
by I'm Friends With Merlin Olsen on Feb 2, 2012 2:44 PM PST up reply actions
that's a good point
depends how much harbaugh really believes in Smith . . . and Kaepernick to some degree.
it's pretty much the standard to ask for a substantial
pay increase in this situation. I don’t see Smith agreeing to anything less than a $8-9 base salary with at least half of it guaranteed.
this is a unique situation (potentially)
agree w/you in principle…
but how good are other teams going to view alex’s ONE successful year (APOLOGISTS need not bother w/stats arguments, this has been his only GOOD year)?
it ONLY TAKES ONE — i totally get that — but i don’t necessarily see anyone offering him $8/9-Million or more for 3+years…
Had he LIT IT UP vs the Saints and Giants, then yeah… But he DIDN’T. And for those of you who’ll again cry “aghhh!!! hater Saints game!!! Saints game!!!”… Well, the TAPE DOESN’T LIE. He didn’t play that well in either game… Not horribly at all (and he was MONEY for the last 2 drives vs NO), but not GREAT.
$8/$9-Mill for a 3+ deal for a guy w/6 rough years and 1 good year? I don’t know…
Potentially a VERY HUMBLING off-season for Alex Smith… Very interested to see what happens. I think he’s gonna get LOWBALLED by a lot of teams (instead of seeing a bidding war… Alex is gonna get the opposite I’m guessing)
-- I have many leather-bound books.
-- You show me a guy that can’t juggle 3 tennis balls within an hour and I’ll show you a guy that’s not going to be in the NFL very long.
by I'm Friends With Merlin Olsen on Feb 2, 2012 3:48 PM PST up reply actions
As somebody stated below:
Here are his stats since the infamous "We Want Carr" chants:
406/681, 4918 yards, 7.2Y/A, 32TD, 7INT, 93QBR, 17-5
36/68, 495 yards, 5TD, 0INT, 101QBR, 1-1 in playoffs
If I showed you those stats, and withheld the name, you’d take it in a second. Lie and say you wouldn’t.
"Bears are crazy, Willie. They'll bite your head off if you're wearing steak on it."
by Blank x2 on Feb 2, 2012 12:43 PM PST up reply actions 2 recs
of course no one responded to this…
that is the “essence” of this quarterback right here. it’s also crucial to point out that the best 2 throws of the game where he apparently failed us belonged to him.
"Winners, I am convinced, imagine their dreams first. They want it with all their heart and expect it to come true. There is, I believe, no other way to live."
- Joe Montana
by brooklyn49er on Feb 3, 2012 10:42 AM PST up reply actions
sample size
smith has played in 70 games, or the same as 4.375 seasons.
by reedkrase on Feb 2, 2012 12:45 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Don't use logic.
Alex haters frown on that.
Apparently he’s been the weak link on a good team since 05.
"Bears are crazy, Willie. They'll bite your head off if you're wearing steak on it."
The offensive line was the biggest problem for our offense in 2010.
Then coaching, then WRs, then Alex Smith.
Same for this year, but put coaching is the smallest problem. Red zone playcalling wasn’t very good this year and that needs to be fixed in the offseason.
We can do that now?
Because then Gore is still really early in his career and crabtree is still in his third season
And when we win, we want to dominate. We want to take guys out. We want to hurt guys. We want to win. We just want to dominate, hit them in the mouth. - Rathman
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Gore has played
6.25 of 7 years (game wise). 100 games out of 112 games.
Actually, I’m a little surprised by these numbers. He’s only missed 12 games in 7 seasons. That’s not bad for an RB who plays as hard as he does.
Actually....
or that we just had to deal with such garbage from him for 6 years that one year of average QB play makes us think all of a sudden he’s turning a corner?
What about this: when Alex Smith has had legitimately competent offensive coaching he has shown improvement. From 2005 to 2006 Norv Turner had him moving in the right direction. This past year, Harbaugh, Roman, etc had him taking another step in the right direction.
I wouldn’t say I’m confident all will be well with Alex, but I think there is a perfectly reasonable argument to be made that his really is one of the more unique situations in recent memory. You can’t just discount 2005 and 2007-2010, but I also think there is something to be said for people being comfortable with him based on what he has shown at times with the right coaches. Maybe that makes him a “system QB” or something like that, but if he has success in the systems, that is all that matters for team-winning football.
I actually do think he can continue to improve with a full offseason working with Coach Harbaugh and the skill position players. I still don’t think he’ll ever be some superstar quarterback, but I do think he is finally in a position where he can develop with a legitimate offensive coaching staff.
Lumping in 09 and 10 with 07 and 08 (two wasted seasons) is pretty unfair.
09 and 10 were definitely on par or better than his 06 campaign.
Wait till he gets in sync with his receivers with a full off-season
Barring injury, of course.
"I put him up against any of the receivers in the league. I can attest to just how hard this man works every single day, and the people of San Francisco really need to appreciate that."
---Kyle Williams
We are homers
So every niner that plays well is the best ever.
And when we win, we want to dominate. We want to take guys out. We want to hurt guys. We want to win. We just want to dominate, hit them in the mouth. - Rathman
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by manraj7 on Feb 1, 2012 9:24 AM PST via iPhone app reply actions
Because this team is a legitimate contender the way it's built now
It took a couple of the worst fumbles ever to keep this team out of the SB.
Granted the margin of error would be greater if Alex could do better than 1-13 on 3rd down, which is why everyone should be excited to see if Kap or anyone else we bring in can beat him out next year.
I Like Alex Smith Alot
And I think he has shown consistent improvement under Harbaugh and the coaching staff. Moreover, I think the offense really plays to Alex Smith’s strengths because this coaching staff understands what they are.
You touch on the most important part of the story. The question is not if Alex Smith is capable to be winner in Harbaugh’s system. I think Smith has already demonstrated that he is… But rather, exactly how long can Alex Smith keep Kaep and Tolzien on the bench?
fify
Granted the margin of error would be greater ifAlexTHE OFFENSE could do better than 1-13 on 3rd down
"Cruelty, It’s not giving another person what they want. That’s our mindset on defense, to go out and play with everything we have and not give the other team anything." -Patrick Willis
by 49erLou on Feb 1, 2012 11:06 AM PST up reply actions 1 recs
I've seen pleanty of non 49er fans say they believe in alex this year
And aron rogers didn’t do much against the giants either.
I’m with the analyst…!!
1. Kelechi Osemele, OT/G, Iowa State
2.Xavier Rhodes CB FSU/ Vinny Curry OLB/DE Marshall/ LaMichael James*, RB, Oregon
3. Brandon Boykin, CB/KR/PR, Georgia/ Alex Okafor*, DE, Texas
4. DeMarlo belcher WR Indiana
5. Casey Hayward, CB, Vanderbilt
6. Marvin Jones WR Cal
7.T.J. Barnes*, DT/NT, Georgia Tech
Clarification
I just think it’s funny how every single analyst fan who isn’t a Niner fan seems to have the same thoughts that Alex Smith isn’t our future at QB
Every single analyst fan? I’m not quite sure what that sentence means. Initially I read it as media analysts, but re-reading it leaves me confused.
i still dont believe in Alex
he shows some then nothing
PS-you need to change your name to Michael Dropballtree
Forget Tebow
Andy Lee is the second coming of Jesus
-ME
Finding an elite QB in the calibre of Brady, Brees, Rodgers and Peyton Manning
would be great, and I would throw Alex in a heartbeat to get someone in their league. The question is who would you replace him with. If you have an answer to that then you are working in the wrong field.
that's the problem right there
after all of the comments are posted, no one has a plan to actually replace Smith. The 49ers do. His name is Colin Kaepernick. Then there is Scott Tolzien. And I bet you Harbaugh looks long and hard at the draft to see if there is anybody else that may be better than what he has. Why do 49er fans not think that a former quarterback does not realize the importance of the position?
+1
I really like the comments “And don’t even MENTION Kaep, etc…”
Kaepernick is our future. Maybe not next season, but soon. And he is going to AMAZE people. His raw talent + Harbaugh coaching = MVP.
Who's got it better than Honey Badger? Honey Badger don't give a ....
...
that we just had to deal with such garbage from him for 6 years that one year of average QB play makes us think all of a sudden he’s turning a corner?
"You know whats funny? I always thought uhm dogs lay eggs and I learned something new today" Peter Griffin
It's typical
If a QB doesn’t throw for 400 yards, analysts don’t think they are capable of being a “good QB”.
Trent Dilfer always seemed to be an Alex Smith fan but that doesn’t say a lot.
I'm in love with a man. A man called Harbaugh. Does that make me gay? Am I gay for Harbaugh? You betcha!
by Haggardninja on Feb 1, 2012 11:50 AM PST via mobile reply actions
Why do 49er fans believe in Alex:
Very talented athletically. He is fast, quick, accurate, strong, tough, and still developing into those skills.
Very intelligent. Book smart, understands the position very well, stickler for the finer details.
Mentally strong. Has not made an excuse and comes through in the clutch.
Loyal.
Budding leadership.
Protects the football as good as anyone in the league, that includes interceptions and fumbles.
He is a 49er and we are homers
Harbaugh believes in him or at least has said as much.
There is a lot wrong with Smith’s game and he will most likely never develop into a quarterback that can take over a game. But 49er fans watch him and have seen him progress in every aspect of his game. He could just be a late bloomer.
I like AleX Smith and I want to see him keep getting better. But honestly, I can only imagine what Colin Kaepernick can do with his elite physical abilities with complete understanding of our offense and develop more patience.
by mcwagner on Feb 1, 2012 12:19 PM PST reply actions 7 recs
yes
his accuracy is very good, only has a problem when in the game and the timing of where his receivers are. Calm practice, he is pretty money. That is one of the most maddening things about Smith is poor placement in game when he has the ability.
In game is all that matters, he is very innacurate. The flaw is mechanical.
1. Kelechi Osemele, OT/G, Iowa State
2.Xavier Rhodes CB FSU/ Vinny Curry OLB/DE Marshall/ LaMichael James*, RB, Oregon
3. Brandon Boykin, CB/KR/PR, Georgia/ Alex Okafor*, DE, Texas
4. DeMarlo belcher WR Indiana
5. Casey Hayward, CB, Vanderbilt
6. Marvin Jones WR Cal
7.T.J. Barnes*, DT/NT, Georgia Tech
I disagree because he can be money with certain players on certain routes
but fine, strike that one word from my entire post. Still shows why 49er fans believe in him.
I disagree...
his shortcomings are innate — that is, the reason why he can’t get the ball to the sidelines or that he can’t find the open man is a product of his essence as a QB, the way his mind and body work together. We call it mediocrity.
only has a problem when in the game and the timing of where his receivers?
i stopped reading your argument there. who cares if he is accurate when warming up? if he isnt accurate in the game, doesn’t know where his receivers are going to be, and can’t feel a rush after 7 years in the league i dont think he deserves that bloated contract that his defense/st earned
but then again there isn’t a great alternative. so re-sign him and see if he does develop. if not, kaep will be ready after next year. harbaugh is a genius with qb’s and drafted one of the most physically gifted/athletic qb’s in last years draft to develop. and with his track record, i trust that kaep will have developed
if you stopped reading my argument then you have no reason to even comment
he has the ability. He can put the ball where he wants to, its just not the right spot. If he can develop better timing and anticipation he can do very well. Therefore, having the tools to do the job but not quite realizing it.
But I didn’t even bother reading your comment. Even the hypocritical part where you trust Harbaugh with Kaepernick, but don’t trust Harbaugh with Smith.
Yeah... What's CK ever done to be "trusted"?
Not hating on CK, mind you… Just that he’s a TOTAL UNKNOWN.
With Alex… Sure he’s got his issues, but he’s a decent player who turned in a pretty good year.
-- I have many leather-bound books.
-- You show me a guy that can’t juggle 3 tennis balls within an hour and I’ll show you a guy that’s not going to be in the NFL very long.
by I'm Friends With Merlin Olsen on Feb 2, 2012 2:20 PM PST up reply actions
I don't think Harbaugh will let CK loose until he knows he is ready.
The point in retaining Smith is that he is a great stop-gap. If he continues to develop, then yippee! Otherwise, we hope that Harbaugh can develop the bench guys and see if either have a future and can beat out Smith. If not then Smith can still do well enough while Harbaugh does find what he is looking for.
Just do not see the point is slamming Smith who is doing just fine out there. Whats the plan? Dump Smith just because you don’t think he is a franchise quarterback and wander the desert again with beaten up rookies and journeymen quarterbacks? Enjoy Steve DeBerg while Montana gets ready…
Agree w/all of that
Smith likely returns… And that’s not a BAD thing.
It will come down to $$$ and who’s out there. And the wildcard in the mix?
What does Harbaugh REALLY think of #11? No contract offer as of yet… And let’s not forget: MATT HASSLEBECK IS WHO THEY WANTED at this point in time last year.
-- I have many leather-bound books.
-- You show me a guy that can’t juggle 3 tennis balls within an hour and I’ll show you a guy that’s not going to be in the NFL very long.
by I'm Friends With Merlin Olsen on Feb 2, 2012 2:33 PM PST up reply actions
(not saying they want Matt Hasslebeck, if that reads unclear...)
(just saying, WHO REALLY KNOWS what Harbaugh really thinks of Alex as his 2012 starting QB…)
-- I have many leather-bound books.
-- You show me a guy that can’t juggle 3 tennis balls within an hour and I’ll show you a guy that’s not going to be in the NFL very long.
by I'm Friends With Merlin Olsen on Feb 2, 2012 2:34 PM PST up reply actions
CK represents hope
We all know what Alex is. He’s a guy with a huge heart, balls to match, but is probably always going to have limits that he must play within and this far into his career he has a ceiling that is well below the better than average signal callers in this league. We need him right now because there are no other options that do not compromise the long term health of the franchise.
Colin Kaepernick represents the hope that one day soon we won’t be just “patiently waiting” at the position that the league seems to want to revolve the game around with all their rule changes.
Aside from that, I don’t think we’ve seen enough of him to say what he is other than hope.
Every time Jamie Dukes says something enlightening and informative about football Jerry Rice and I mount up on our flying grizzly bears and claim pirate treasure from the moon. That's how often it happens.
^^^^ agree
-- I have many leather-bound books.
-- You show me a guy that can’t juggle 3 tennis balls within an hour and I’ll show you a guy that’s not going to be in the NFL very long.
by I'm Friends With Merlin Olsen on Feb 2, 2012 2:34 PM PST up reply actions
hes had 7 years to show off that "ability"
I agree that smith should be resigned but only for the right price. We didn’t finish 13-3 on Alex Smith’s arm but by playing good defense, special teams, and limiting Alex Smith’s chances for error. When has he showed this accuracy u speak of?
And yes I trust that harbaugh can develop qb’s. He has a track record of getting the most out of the qb wherever he has coached. I just worry that he may be a little late to fully develop smith into what everyone wanted him to be 7 years ago. So give Smith a 2-3 yr deal that is incentive laden and not above market price. I don’t see Smith having very many suitors so we shouldn’t overpay and keep in mind that kaep is the qb of the future
Accuracy is about CONSISTENCY
Alex Smith is not CONSISTENTLY accurate. Therefore…he is not “accurate” in general.
His accuracy issues have QUITE A BIT MORE involved than simply working out timing issues w/receivers, etc.
Agree w/much of your post… This part was way offm though.
-- I have many leather-bound books.
-- You show me a guy that can’t juggle 3 tennis balls within an hour and I’ll show you a guy that’s not going to be in the NFL very long.
by I'm Friends With Merlin Olsen on Feb 2, 2012 1:30 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Yes.
"Our deepest fear is not that we are inadequate. Our deepest fear is that we are powerful beyond measure. It is our light, not our darkness that most frightens us"
He took over the Saints game at the end.
So there’s a glimmer of hope that he can take over a game if need be.
by Mapletreemarty on Feb 2, 2012 9:02 AM PST up reply actions
He played very well and took what was there
He made 4 exceptionally good throws… The fade to Davis, the go route to Swain (Swain didn’t get there), the crossing route to Davis (a fairly easy throw but, considering the circumstances and pressure, a dime… W/out PERFECT ball placement that’s not a 47-yard gain), and the TD to Davis.
So all credit to Alex where it’s due. But a FAIR ANALYSIS must include:
Gregg Williams F’d up… Bigtime. He HAS TO PLAY to keep the 49ers out of the endzone at that point. AT ALL COSTS. A FG attempt ain’t a guaranteed make. A made FG only TIES the game, and you’ve got Drew Brees as your QB in OT. The 49ers D is gassed at this point and has given up over 110-yards in TDs on 2 plays over the last 2 drives.
Furthermore, Alex Smith has struggled since the 1st Q to get anything going in the passing game to anyone not named Vernon Davis. So what do you do? Double or bracket Davis? Roll everything to him? Drop 7 or 8 and keep everything underneath? Make sure VERNON DOESN’T BEAT YOU and that no one gets open over the top?
Nope… How ’bout BLITZ and play Cover 0 and Cover 1 and SINGLE DAVIS repeatedly? Yep… Great plan. And then at the 14 yard line, you finally go into a Cover 2 look that was apparently so predictable for the Saints in that situation, that GEEP CHRYST is able to design and implement a play on a Wednesday that eventually ends up getting you beat… GRRRRREAT job, Gregg…
Alex played well. The Saints helped…
-- I have many leather-bound books.
-- You show me a guy that can’t juggle 3 tennis balls within an hour and I’ll show you a guy that’s not going to be in the NFL very long.
by I'm Friends With Merlin Olsen on Feb 2, 2012 1:40 PM PST up reply actions
Just want to add on the Swain throw.
I agree, Alex threw that ball perfectly, but Swain let off just a bit at the last second or two for whatever reason (maybe lost the ball in the light or something).
Even simpler explanation than that...
Alex had to get rid of the ball just a hair earlier than he would’ve liked because of the pass rush… One extra tick, one extra little hitch, or if Swain were just a hair faster…
No one’s fault.
-- I have many leather-bound books.
-- You show me a guy that can’t juggle 3 tennis balls within an hour and I’ll show you a guy that’s not going to be in the NFL very long.
by I'm Friends With Merlin Olsen on Feb 2, 2012 2:14 PM PST up reply actions
It's pretty obvious watching the replay Swain let up a bit towards the end.
He would’ve had it had he not let off the gas, even though it was just a hair.
"let up" in terms of was getting ready to find the football
i agree w/that…
i don’t buy the “he gave up on the play” let up talk that i’ve heard. i don’t see it that way.
i think swain’s just a guy who hadn’t been playing much, he ran a go route, he slowed a touch as he evened up w/the DB and was getting by him, he looked up to see if a football was headed his way, and — D’OH — there it goes sailing past……
His timing was off, he got surprised, but he wasn’t DOGGING it. not saying YOU are saying that, it’s just what i think when i hear “LET up”.
-- I have many leather-bound books.
-- You show me a guy that can’t juggle 3 tennis balls within an hour and I’ll show you a guy that’s not going to be in the NFL very long.
by I'm Friends With Merlin Olsen on Feb 2, 2012 2:30 PM PST up reply actions
I don't think he gave up.
Like I said earlier, I think me may have lost the ball in the light for a second.
I don’t think of “let up” as a dogging it kind of term. It can be used that way, but I don’t think it means that 100% of the time.
He hesitates a little..
He also hesitates a little when he’s coming up against the corner. All he needed was another stride…. or at least lay the f*ck out. Show me you want it son.
by Mapletreemarty on Feb 3, 2012 6:21 AM PST up reply actions
This is Gregg Williams in a nutshell
He blitzes. All day. He’s reckless but with his offense he can usually afford to be. Not so in the Divisional round against our defense. They were tired late and gave up a couple big plays, but for the most part we frustrated and corralled Drew Brees all day long.
Every time Jamie Dukes says something enlightening and informative about football Jerry Rice and I mount up on our flying grizzly bears and claim pirate treasure from the moon. That's how often it happens.
My favorite Alex Smith Hater comment
is about his “6 years” of playing, like he actually played every game, every year since he’s been a 49er and is the reason for every loss…oh wait, he hasn’t….the main problem with Smiths career/development is that he came out of school too early (even though he did earn a degree). The guy wasn’t even old enough to legally drink alcohol when he was drafted, so there is the maturity department, which is especially important for a QB (his first 2 years SHOULD have been is final years at Utah). I mean if you can’t see the drastic improvement he has made this year with finally having some competent coaching, then I don’t know what to tell ya.
This is exactly the truth about Crabtree as well
The guy wasn’t even old enough to legally drink alcohol when he was drafted, so there is the maturity department
"I put him up against any of the receivers in the league. I can attest to just how hard this man works every single day, and the people of San Francisco really need to appreciate that."
---Kyle Williams
Some people seem to forget how immature and not professionally polished they were at that age lol
They think, “well he plays football (a friggin GAME) so he must be perfect at what he does”, when THEY were 20-21, they were doing keg stands and trying to show up on time to flip burgers lol
by sanfranfanmdk on Feb 4, 2012 9:36 AM PST up reply actions
But why do people give Alex Smith a pass, but Crabtree no?
"It all depends on the quarterback."
---Jerry Rice
Well I am sure there are people on both sides of the coin
Crabree’s problem seems to be missing out on training camp/injuries to start all three of his years
by sanfranfanmdk on Feb 4, 2012 6:22 PM PST up reply actions
Yeah, suck it up, be a man and rub some dirt on it
"It all depends on the quarterback."
---Jerry Rice
It's what Crabtree had
It’s what is known as a Jones Fracture.
http://www.physioroom.com/experts/expertupdate/interview_mark_myerson.php
"It all depends on the quarterback."
---Jerry Rice
This is SO evil...
Who's got it better than Honey Badger? Honey Badger don't give a ....
Kaepernick's raw talent + Harbaugh's coaching = Hall of Fame QB
don't know
they shouldn’t. Crabtree needs to step it up next year and so does Alex
by Andrew9erfan on Feb 5, 2012 11:58 AM PST up reply actions
Big difference between analyst and Coaches ...
… Even bigger difference between people that have played the game and understand it , then people that make posts like this …!!
I'm your " Huckelberry "...it's just my game ..( .AleX ) was asked , what do you think about all the game manager talk ... AleX i guess i just managed myself a VIctory ... Extend the Man ...!!
most analysts
are form coaches and players.
by salary_cap on Feb 2, 2012 1:13 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
And of coarse I'm right as always , analyst that don't watch the TEAM week in week out ...
… Coaches whom no longer can get a Job … But I’ll let you all decide what JOE MONTANA thinks about this TEAM and AleX Smith …!!
http://www.49ers.com/media-gallery/audio/Joe-Montana-on-957-The-Game/85eae590-a5ca-41f9-a960-316d503edbfe
I'm your " Huckelberry "...it's just my game ..( .AleX ) was asked , what do you think about all the game manager talk ... AleX i guess i just managed myself a VIctory ... Extend the Man ...!!
Niner fan dialogue about Smith
2006:
“give him some receivers and [coaches and] another year in the offense then let’s see what he can do.”
2007: repeat above
2008: repeat above
2009: repeat above
2010: repeat above
2011: repeat above (minus coaches part)
2012: when will it stop?
it's the other way around.
receivers are wondering when they will get a QB who can throw to the outside. QBs make receivers, not the other way around. Of course the niners could get better at WR. It’s not why Smith is stuck in mediocrity.
a qb can't make a receiver stop dropping catchable balls
Or get off the line clean or get separation or not step out of bounds ect.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jIMLaIieko0&feature=related
-- I have many leather-bound books.
-- You show me a guy that can’t juggle 3 tennis balls within an hour and I’ll show you a guy that’s not going to be in the NFL very long.
by I'm Friends With Merlin Olsen on Feb 2, 2012 4:16 PM PST up reply actions
so how many WRs since 2005 have left the 49ers and gone on to have great careers elsewhere? Brandon Lloyd – who was traded after Smith’s rookie year. That’s not Smith’s fault, that just shows our WRs over the last 6 years have been aweful.
AleX has had 17 different starting Wideouts ... not alot of cohesiveness at that postion ...!!
I'm your " Huckelberry "...it's just my game ..( .AleX ) was asked , what do you think about all the game manager talk ... AleX i guess i just managed myself a VIctory ... Extend the Man ...!!
Yup , opinions only matter if they are Valid ... Hense I won't reply to the In-valid ...!!
I'm your " Huckelberry "...it's just my game ..( .AleX ) was asked , what do you think about all the game manager talk ... AleX i guess i just managed myself a VIctory ... Extend the Man ...!!
Hence , that is ...!!
I'm your " Huckelberry "...it's just my game ..( .AleX ) was asked , what do you think about all the game manager talk ... AleX i guess i just managed myself a VIctory ... Extend the Man ...!!
stawwwwwwwwp.......
-- I have many leather-bound books.
-- You show me a guy that can’t juggle 3 tennis balls within an hour and I’ll show you a guy that’s not going to be in the NFL very long.
by I'm Friends With Merlin Olsen on Feb 2, 2012 3:50 PM PST up reply actions
Alex Smith has the most yards with Crabtree( as far as wideouts are concerned) and most say that the two have horrible chemistry.
"You know whats funny? I always thought uhm dogs lay eggs and I learned something new today" Peter Griffin
by HUNGRY HUNTER on Feb 3, 2012 1:59 AM PST up reply actions
if you just look at regular season
Crabtree had the most
And when we win, we want to dominate. We want to take guys out. We want to hurt guys. We want to win. We just want to dominate, hit them in the mouth. - Rathman
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which is why it's clear that the team needs to sign better receivers
or at least ones that can stay healthy
Let's turn it around and see how it sounds
which is why it’s clear that the team needs to sign better quarterbacks
or at least ones that can stay healthy
"I put him up against any of the receivers in the league. I can attest to just how hard this man works every single day, and the people of San Francisco really need to appreciate that."
---Kyle Williams
stawwwwwwwp....
-- I have many leather-bound books.
-- You show me a guy that can’t juggle 3 tennis balls within an hour and I’ll show you a guy that’s not going to be in the NFL very long.
by I'm Friends With Merlin Olsen on Feb 2, 2012 3:50 PM PST up reply actions
..
2012: when will it stop?
"You know whats funny? I always thought uhm dogs lay eggs and I learned something new today" Peter Griffin
by HUNGRY HUNTER on Feb 3, 2012 1:57 AM PST up reply actions
I thought that after the NFCCG it was quite clear Alex can’t do jack, yet many people on here seem to be very happy or confident with him, possibly because “he had this year with no offseason, imagine him if he did!” like there could be a discernible difference
Yeah, because you can really make this claim without ever seeing this guy in the same offense for two consecutive years. And don’t give me that crap about Jimmy Raye 2009-2010. You know as well as I do how bad that offense was for Smith.
"Our deepest fear is not that we are inadequate. Our deepest fear is that we are powerful beyond measure. It is our light, not our darkness that most frightens us"
Oh, no!
We made it to the final four and lost on a fluke error. Something must have been terribly wrong with our team.
Rain came a week late :(
"Our deepest fear is not that we are inadequate. Our deepest fear is that we are powerful beyond measure. It is our light, not our darkness that most frightens us"
uhm
Alex Smith was in Jimmry Raye’s offense for TWO YEARS. Alex Smith did horrible in the SECOND year. Next theory please
"You know whats funny? I always thought uhm dogs lay eggs and I learned something new today" Peter Griffin
by HUNGRY HUNTER on Feb 3, 2012 2:01 AM PST up reply actions
The offenses best game was vs the Saints with Raye.
1. Kelechi Osemele, OT/G, Iowa State
2.Xavier Rhodes CB FSU/ Vinny Curry OLB/DE Marshall/ LaMichael James*, RB, Oregon
3. Brandon Boykin, CB/KR/PR, Georgia/ Alex Okafor*, DE, Texas
4. DeMarlo belcher WR Indiana
5. Casey Hayward, CB, Vanderbilt
6. Marvin Jones WR Cal
7.T.J. Barnes*, DT/NT, Georgia Tech
No, because the Saints were a better team.
1. Kelechi Osemele, OT/G, Iowa State
2.Xavier Rhodes CB FSU/ Vinny Curry OLB/DE Marshall/ LaMichael James*, RB, Oregon
3. Brandon Boykin, CB/KR/PR, Georgia/ Alex Okafor*, DE, Texas
4. DeMarlo belcher WR Indiana
5. Casey Hayward, CB, Vanderbilt
6. Marvin Jones WR Cal
7.T.J. Barnes*, DT/NT, Georgia Tech
not last year
they had a good D last year. Number 4 2010 compared to number 4 defense 2011, the 49ers
Hmm, my mistake.
Still a defense that got embarrassed in the playoffs by 7-9 Seahawks team.
Our schalackings of Seattle and Arizona were more impressive, especially considering we only scored 6 points against Seattle earlier in the year.
yes, so the "continuity " myth has been supported as a myth
"You know whats funny? I always thought uhm dogs lay eggs and I learned something new today" Peter Griffin
by HUNGRY HUNTER on Feb 3, 2012 2:20 PM PST up reply actions
This is the first offseason he'll have a chance to build on a previous year..
Haven’t we had a new offensive co-ordinator every year, more or less??
This will be the first season Alex will be heading into where he is familiar with his entire coaching staff, the playbook (I can’t wait to see what else we add to it with a full offseason and training camp), etc.
Let’s not forget that Giants game was Alex’s 2nd career playoff game, he’s not an elite QB but he is a good, solid QB, and I think based on what he did against the Saints in the final 5 mins of the game everyone placed their expectations of Alex ridiculously high going into the Giants game.
Those 5 mins Alex showed us his potential and what he can do, now he just needs some time to get his consistency down and take the next step as a QB. If he improves his accuracy/timing with his receivers downfield, learns to throw accurately on the run, and trusts a couple more receivers I think he has the potential to be very very good
It'll be especially great for him if we can upgrade our WR corp and o-line.
Any WRs we draft or sign need to spend a boat-ton of time with Alex in the offseason and our starting o-line needs to eat, breath, and **** together.
2nd coordinator in a row in which he has year two in the same offense.
1. Kelechi Osemele, OT/G, Iowa State
2.Xavier Rhodes CB FSU/ Vinny Curry OLB/DE Marshall/ LaMichael James*, RB, Oregon
3. Brandon Boykin, CB/KR/PR, Georgia/ Alex Okafor*, DE, Texas
4. DeMarlo belcher WR Indiana
5. Casey Hayward, CB, Vanderbilt
6. Marvin Jones WR Cal
7.T.J. Barnes*, DT/NT, Georgia Tech
Jimmy Raye did not have an offense
he had three plays: Run up the middle, Run up the middle, playaction fake running up the middle and throw the ball to Vernon Davis.
Indeed, he was awful
Strangely enough, I wish he would come back and call plays in the redzone though.
Wow so Vernons season didnt exist?
Gtfohwtbs
1. Kelechi Osemele, OT/G, Iowa State
2.Xavier Rhodes CB FSU/ Vinny Curry OLB/DE Marshall/ LaMichael James*, RB, Oregon
3. Brandon Boykin, CB/KR/PR, Georgia/ Alex Okafor*, DE, Texas
4. DeMarlo belcher WR Indiana
5. Casey Hayward, CB, Vanderbilt
6. Marvin Jones WR Cal
7.T.J. Barnes*, DT/NT, Georgia Tech
What the hell are you even talking about?
One of Raye’s three plays was throw the ball to Vernon.
Weak argument
When one of them was Jimmy Raye.
That wasn’t an NFL offense.
"Bears are crazy, Willie. They'll bite your head off if you're wearing steak on it."
Oh please.
So Vernon’s record wasn’t an NFL record? Gtfohwtbs
1. Kelechi Osemele, OT/G, Iowa State
2.Xavier Rhodes CB FSU/ Vinny Curry OLB/DE Marshall/ LaMichael James*, RB, Oregon
3. Brandon Boykin, CB/KR/PR, Georgia/ Alex Okafor*, DE, Texas
4. DeMarlo belcher WR Indiana
5. Casey Hayward, CB, Vanderbilt
6. Marvin Jones WR Cal
7.T.J. Barnes*, DT/NT, Georgia Tech
That's not the point ...!!
I'm your " Huckelberry "...it's just my game ..( .AleX ) was asked , what do you think about all the game manager talk ... AleX i guess i just managed myself a VIctory ... Extend the Man ...!!
The point is AleX sucked so hard Vernon could of had 200 more Td's that year ...!!
I'm your " Huckelberry "...it's just my game ..( .AleX ) was asked , what do you think about all the game manager talk ... AleX i guess i just managed myself a VIctory ... Extend the Man ...!!
Point is dont knock the offensive coordinator, when our best weapon was productive.
You guys knock Raye because Alex played like crap.
1. Kelechi Osemele, OT/G, Iowa State
2.Xavier Rhodes CB FSU/ Vinny Curry OLB/DE Marshall/ LaMichael James*, RB, Oregon
3. Brandon Boykin, CB/KR/PR, Georgia/ Alex Okafor*, DE, Texas
4. DeMarlo belcher WR Indiana
5. Casey Hayward, CB, Vanderbilt
6. Marvin Jones WR Cal
7.T.J. Barnes*, DT/NT, Georgia Tech
which is proven by Raye's rampent success in the league
before and after the 49ers. Raye’s career win percentage matches his win percentage with the 49ers.
Hes an offensive coordinator, get real.
I am not an Alex hater, I'm an Alex apologist hater. Now you know. -Mr Moses
Alex did not play like crap when Raye was OC.
Playing like crap is playing like Derek Anderson or Jimmy Clausen. Alex was far better than that.
Maybe year 20 he will play like people expect a second year qb to play.
"You know whats funny? I always thought uhm dogs lay eggs and I learned something new today" Peter Griffin
by HUNGRY HUNTER on Feb 3, 2012 2:01 AM PST up reply actions
and maybe you'll give an objective analysis of him
I doubt it though
by Andrew9erfan on Feb 3, 2012 8:12 AM PST up reply actions 2 recs
will you absord this or make excuses?
49ers offensive struggles in 2011
Category Total NFL rank
Net passing yards 183.1 29th
Pct. of red-zone drives resulting in TD 40.7 30th
Third-down conversion pct. 29.4 31st
Three-and-out drives 49 T-23rd
http://nflfilms.nfl.com/2012/01/24/cosell-talks-for-alex-smith-what-a-difference-a-week-made/
offense sucked this year.
alex smith regressed in passing yards per game this year;
http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/7177/career
alex smith ranked last in passing yards of any qb who started 16 games
2nd to last in td passes for qbs who started 16 games
these are not very productive stats
mark sanchez has shown more improvement every single year and had more yards and more touchdown pass this year than smith.
http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/9269/career;_ylt=AhW.O4E2.VhdDt9UAbvqXDv.uLYF
now for your excuses
"You know whats funny? I always thought uhm dogs lay eggs and I learned something new today" Peter Griffin
by HUNGRY HUNTER on Feb 3, 2012 2:42 PM PST up reply actions
you asked for objective analysis and have nothing object to respond to it.
you are right, joe staley and vernon davis are pro bowl players. two good players at important positions on offense.
"You know whats funny? I always thought uhm dogs lay eggs and I learned something new today" Peter Griffin
by HUNGRY HUNTER on Feb 4, 2012 1:01 AM PST up reply actions
I was still waiting for something obective from you
those were stats for our offense and you are blaming it all on the QB. Do you understand what a team sport is? You also didn’t consider any of the things that he did well, and it’s not hard to find them.
you could have just said no
"You know whats funny? I always thought uhm dogs lay eggs and I learned something new today" Peter Griffin
by HUNGRY HUNTER on Feb 4, 2012 12:51 PM PST up reply actions
do I need to explain the difference between factual and objective?
I never said that what you posted wasn’t true, but it’s only looking at the negative. I’m sure you don’t think there is any positive about him which is what makes you very much not objective.
so again, you have nothing to add.
"You know whats funny? I always thought uhm dogs lay eggs and I learned something new today" Peter Griffin
by HUNGRY HUNTER on Feb 4, 2012 3:21 PM PST up reply actions
I asked you to post something objective and you still have failed to do so
thus adding nothing to the conversation yourself
by Andrew9erfan on Feb 5, 2012 12:00 PM PST up reply actions
Everyone here, including you Michaelclutchtree
loved Smith’s performance in the NO game. For years the knock against Smith has been flashes of brilliance with bonehead mistakes killing the game.
This year he got rid of the bonehead mistakes, and we’ve seen flashes of brilliance. I don’t think it’s homerism to say that he deserves another year.
Smith was a top 10 QB in a number of categories in 2011. Seems like you’re approaching Smith with a bias that only a fan that has watched his whole career can have.
by reedkrase on Feb 2, 2012 8:52 AM PST reply actions 4 recs
Agree.
If we made it to the Super Bowl, this post wouldn’t exist. It blows my mind people don’t see improvement this year with a competent staff.
If you see the same Alex from 05-09, you aren’t paying attention.
"Bears are crazy, Willie. They'll bite your head off if you're wearing steak on it."
Really Alex turned it around after coming in against the Colts in 09.
That’s when I knew he had it in him. Beginning of last year was a bit of a set back, but the whole team and just everything was going against us there.
Here are his stats since the infamous “We Want Carr” chants:
406/681, 4918 yards, 7.2Y/A, 32TD, 7INT, 93QBR, 17-5
36/68, 495 yards, 5TD, 0INT, 101QBR, 1-1 in playoffs
If that isn’t great, I don’t know what to say. This is also with a bad WR corp and a bad offensive line. Hell, as 49er fans, we should want this guy to succeed with us. Alex is incredibly likable as a player and human. He’s had to put up with a lot here, most notably that whole fiasco with Mike Nolan trying to turn his own locker room against him and run him out of town. Alex re-structured his contract and took a pay cut to stay with us. It’s amazing where he’s come from. Being a rookie on one of the worst teams in 49er (if not NFL) history to taking us on an amazing run to being a play away from a Super Bowl berth. Coaching changes, new players, tons of sacks, etc. He has a mental toughness unlike most guys in the league and I’m proud to have him as my quarterback. He will probably never be Tittle, Montana, Young, or even Garcia, but he’s a damn fine 49er and I sincerely hope he’s the guy to lead us to a Super Bowl win. I also think he has it in him to do it.
Think you mean the Texans game in 09
when they were down by 21, Hill was benched for Smith at the half, Smith throws 3 TDs and then an interception on the last drive when they were just 10 yards from FG range, and all they needed was an FG to tie the game.
That game always sticks out to me as the old Smith, amazing performance killed by a bonehead mistake, team blames him for losing instead of praising him for putting them in a place where they almost won.
the reality is that
even if the niners made the SB, Smith should still be criticized for not helping us win the Giants game. I don’t know why guys gloat team accomplishments when arguing for/defending said player.
If you see the same Alex from 05-09, you aren’t paying attention
nobody is saying this. But being better than that Alex is like saying a 300 pounder is not FAT because he used to be 400 pounds.
Whatever.
If I keep this up I’ll be hanging with Drew K.
Like talking to a wall.
"Bears are crazy, Willie. They'll bite your head off if you're wearing steak on it."
just ignore him
trust me, it makes things easier.
"Cruelty, It’s not giving another person what they want. That’s our mindset on defense, to go out and play with everything we have and not give the other team anything." -Patrick Willis
Loved the 1st Q and the final 2 drives...
Other than that, #11 was kinda shaky.
-- I have many leather-bound books.
-- You show me a guy that can’t juggle 3 tennis balls within an hour and I’ll show you a guy that’s not going to be in the NFL very long.
by I'm Friends With Merlin Olsen on Feb 2, 2012 1:42 PM PST up reply actions
Brillance?
Throwing a duck to wide open Kyle Williams? The niners offense was near the bottom in many categories this year. The offense was not the reason for the Niners success this year and was the reason they are not in the super bowl.
"You know whats funny? I always thought uhm dogs lay eggs and I learned something new today" Peter Griffin
by HUNGRY HUNTER on Feb 3, 2012 2:04 AM PST up reply actions
Indeed.
And the offensive line and WR play are bigger reasons for the offense being at the bottom of said categories. After you blame them, then you can blame Alex Smith.
QB play effects the OL and WRs.
1. Kelechi Osemele, OT/G, Iowa State
2.Xavier Rhodes CB FSU/ Vinny Curry OLB/DE Marshall/ LaMichael James*, RB, Oregon
3. Brandon Boykin, CB/KR/PR, Georgia/ Alex Okafor*, DE, Texas
4. DeMarlo belcher WR Indiana
5. Casey Hayward, CB, Vanderbilt
6. Marvin Jones WR Cal
7.T.J. Barnes*, DT/NT, Georgia Tech
No, it's not a poor argument.
I’m saying the OL and WRs are more of a detriment to our offense than Alex Smith.
Simple, really.
They hurt Alex more than Alex hurts them. It’s quite obvious to me when you watch them play. Alex doesn’t always make good throws and such, but their are blown protections and dropped balls far more often than when Alex doing something wrong.
QB play effects how a defense schemes against you.
QB play determines pressures and schemes. How is it our offense faced so many 8 and 9 man fronts? Sure as hell has more to do with the QB.
1. Kelechi Osemele, OT/G, Iowa State
2.Xavier Rhodes CB FSU/ Vinny Curry OLB/DE Marshall/ LaMichael James*, RB, Oregon
3. Brandon Boykin, CB/KR/PR, Georgia/ Alex Okafor*, DE, Texas
4. DeMarlo belcher WR Indiana
5. Casey Hayward, CB, Vanderbilt
6. Marvin Jones WR Cal
7.T.J. Barnes*, DT/NT, Georgia Tech
so alex smith can not find open receiver when 9 are rushed let alone when there is one on one on the outside with no safety help which happens all the time with smith as qb
joke, going into 8th year and qb can still not do this.
"You know whats funny? I always thought uhm dogs lay eggs and I learned something new today" Peter Griffin
by HUNGRY HUNTER on Feb 3, 2012 2:50 PM PST up reply actions
they are open buddy, where is your proof that they are not? you have none.
"You know whats funny? I always thought uhm dogs lay eggs and I learned something new today" Peter Griffin
by HUNGRY HUNTER on Feb 3, 2012 2:53 PM PST up reply actions
I actually watch the games instead of reading stat lines the next day.
Why don’t you do something to prove they do get open?
Oh wait, you can’t.
halftime, announcer(who just happen to be very successful qb in the nfl) said there was plays to be made down field.
there was that cossel article.
There have been numerous comments that the past seven season that coaches have implored smith to pass the ball deep.
there is also that duck that alex threw to a wide-out that had nobody between him and the end zone.
"You know whats funny? I always thought uhm dogs lay eggs and I learned something new today" Peter Griffin
by HUNGRY HUNTER on Feb 4, 2012 12:51 AM PST up reply actions
see above
"You know whats funny? I always thought uhm dogs lay eggs and I learned something new today" Peter Griffin
by HUNGRY HUNTER on Feb 4, 2012 12:52 AM PST up reply actions
conjecture at best
You have access to the NFL game tape?
I think not.
"It all depends on the quarterback."
---Jerry Rice
guess u didn't watch the playoffs this year
where he hit VD for multiple big plays with the criteria you mentions….quit being a joke
by sanfranfanmdk on Feb 4, 2012 9:44 AM PST up reply actions
playoffs
1-13 on third down; how many times did alex not throw beyond the first down marker?
"You know whats funny? I always thought uhm dogs lay eggs and I learned something new today" Peter Griffin
by HUNGRY HUNTER on Feb 4, 2012 12:53 PM PST up reply actions
yes, way to ignore the Saints game
and the several big plays to VD in BOTH games
by sanfranfanmdk on Feb 4, 2012 2:07 PM PST up reply actions
Doesn't matter , AleX and AleX alone was the reason they went 1-13 on 3rd downs ...!!
I'm your " Huckelberry "...it's just my game ..( .AleX ) was asked , what do you think about all the game manager talk ... AleX i guess i just managed myself a VIctory ... Extend the Man ...!!
Stay away from sarcasm, Ed
It doesn’t work well for you.
"It all depends on the quarterback."
---Jerry Rice
when the ball is not thrown beyond the first down marker on third down is it expected to get first downs?
"You know whats funny? I always thought uhm dogs lay eggs and I learned something new today" Peter Griffin
by HUNGRY HUNTER on Feb 4, 2012 3:20 PM PST up reply actions
Alex played better the Manning in the second half.
And we had a lead. Defenses happen.
Anybody who pins this loss on AS is blind as a bat.
saints game? played horrible except for when behind in the last 3.43 or so left in the game.
"You know whats funny? I always thought uhm dogs lay eggs and I learned something new today" Peter Griffin
by HUNGRY HUNTER on Feb 4, 2012 3:20 PM PST up reply actions
Yes, first two scores happened by themselves.
LOL at haters.
and formation sets with everyone bundled together
doesn’t make much sense to have everyone together so when they are in their routes you have to thread the needle with a QB that was always, and always will be, weak armed.
alex smith does not have a weak arm, he has a strong arm but does not pass with accuracy.
the bundled sets are to get picks so there is a wr or tight end wide open because alex does not pass to anyone who is not wide open.
alex smith was kept over shaun hill because alex had a stronger arm.
"You know whats funny? I always thought uhm dogs lay eggs and I learned something new today" Peter Griffin
by HUNGRY HUNTER on Feb 3, 2012 2:52 PM PST up reply actions
really? prove it
no oline can block 8-9 rushers, overload rush to one side, or hold up for 7-10 seconds- qb has to adjust and beat those.
vernon davis and crabtree are very good.
"You know whats funny? I always thought uhm dogs lay eggs and I learned something new today" Peter Griffin
by HUNGRY HUNTER on Feb 3, 2012 2:47 PM PST up reply actions
Our o-line can't block 3-5 rushers. Go watch the Ravens game again.
Go watch the Saints game again. Anthony Davis freezes against the blitz and doesn’t know what to do.
VD is great, Crabtree is average at BEST.
SAINTS RUSH 8-9 PLAYERS!!!!! ANY MORE LIES?
when did davis “freeze”? lol
"You know whats funny? I always thought uhm dogs lay eggs and I learned something new today" Peter Griffin
by HUNGRY HUNTER on Feb 3, 2012 2:57 PM PST up reply actions
No, they rush 5 and embarrass our o-line.
That’s the point. Thank you for reinforcing my perspective.
rewatch the game
"You know whats funny? I always thought uhm dogs lay eggs and I learned something new today" Peter Griffin
by HUNGRY HUNTER on Feb 4, 2012 12:52 AM PST up reply actions
Hey don't argue , he's Ed-u-ma-cated ...!!
I'm your " Huckelberry "...it's just my game ..( .AleX ) was asked , what do you think about all the game manager talk ... AleX i guess i just managed myself a VIctory ... Extend the Man ...!!
excuse
"You know whats funny? I always thought uhm dogs lay eggs and I learned something new today" Peter Griffin
by HUNGRY HUNTER on Feb 3, 2012 2:43 PM PST up reply actions
Duck?
what do you have against ducks?
look I can take one word out of your comments and pretend I’m responding to you too.
lol
"You know whats funny? I always thought uhm dogs lay eggs and I learned something new today" Peter Griffin
by HUNGRY HUNTER on Feb 4, 2012 12:57 PM PST up reply actions
crispy skin, a little greasy underneath and tender meat
yummy
by Andrew9erfan on Feb 5, 2012 12:01 PM PST up reply actions
you're right
it’s hard to cook it right to get that perfect balance.
0.o
“The offense was not the reason for the Niners success this year and was the reason they are not in the super bowl.”
Offense wasn’t on the field when KW fumbled.
1-13 on third down
"You know whats funny? I always thought uhm dogs lay eggs and I learned something new today" Peter Griffin
by HUNGRY HUNTER on Feb 5, 2012 1:02 AM PST up reply actions
Ball in the knee.
Offense did put enough points to win. More points then Manning could do without help.
shhh, stop trying to be logical
and heaven forbid if you recognize that the offense isn’t just the QB
by Andrew9erfan on Feb 5, 2012 12:02 PM PST up reply actions
Alex needs to start hitting on some deeper routes
Just saw an article over on advanced NFL stats, it’s the first one on the homepage (too lazy to link) and they do a break down of air passing yards, so essentially removing the YAC from passing yard totals for QB’s… Alex Smith ranks 23rd in the league in air yards per pass attempt, which is where I would expect him to be with the protect the ball, throw to your checkdown early approach that we’ve taken this year..
If we pickup some help at the WR (even having a healthy receiving corps) plus instilling the full playbook will hopefully bump him up that list next season.
I know that we protect the ball, but I don’t think we’ve found that optimal point of risk vs. reward and the # of turnovers our team, our offense can accept and handle in return for an increase in big plays/points/extending drives by converting 3rd downs etc.
It would be fun to watch us push the envelope a little.
Also on that note let’s stop with the flea flicker trick plays inside our own 30 yard line… those were almost disasterous in both of our playoff games, let’s get the ball a little further up field and away from our endzone haha before we let our imaginations run wild.
Deep Routes do need improvement
personally I think Smith’s cautiousness get the best of him on the deep routes, he was always trying to avoid the interception, but on those deep throws, really it’s up to the receiver to make the play. It’s up to the QB to put it where the WR can get it and any interceptions are on the WR.
Except in SF
Everything is the QBs responsiblilty and fault when bad things happen.
"Bears are crazy, Willie. They'll bite your head off if you're wearing steak on it."
Alex Smith's Situation
It’s been very unique. There have been very few QBs that have come in as young as he did. Starting at age 21. Starting a full 16 game season at age 22. The only one that I could come up with is Drew Bledsoe. He came in to the league in 93 at 21. Started all 16 games at age 22 in 94. He was blessed with Bill Parcells as head coach and Ray Perkins as OC for the 1st 4 seasons. Always good to have some continuity as a young QB.
Peyton Manning came in at 22 and started all 16 games…had Jim Mora for the first 4 seasons.
Alot of reasons for Smith’s slow start of his career, but it seems like he has finally been put into a situation where he can succeed. Steve young didn’t get his first full 16 game season til he was 31. Seems like AleX has turned his career around as well.
and both Bledsoe and Manning were more polished coming into the league
Smith came in knowing that he had problems to correct. Coaches, coaches. Bill Parcells and Jim Mora vs. Mike Nolan that cannot keep a job
He came from Urban Meyers offense, too.
Far from “pro ready.”
"Bears are crazy, Willie. They'll bite your head off if you're wearing steak on it."
Alex Smith's play and his perceived value is
bloated because of the Niners D and team success this year. It is definitely a gamble to let Smith walk, considering there is no scenario where someone on the team is fit for the reigns, but it is also a risk to re up this poster board of mediocrity at borderline elite salary. But there are other QBs who can do what Alex Smith can do: take NO risks so you can claim to be a QB that “takes care of the ball.” QBs that make plays can do this too.
For the third time...
WHO is the answer right now?
Either give us a better option or deal with it. Hopefully that new option won’t learn six offenses in seven years.
"Bears are crazy, Willie. They'll bite your head off if you're wearing steak on it."
then why don't they?
not that many QBs have had as many come from behind wins as he has and no QB has ever had two come from behind drives in the final 3 min of a playoff game.
people act like
what Smith gave the team this year is something extraordinary or unique or hard to find. It’s unfortunate Smith is a FA after the Niners just went 13-3. It’s made him a QB that can conceivably command a salary that is not justified by his production and abilities to this point.
yes they ran a conservative offense
But he came through quite a few times this year to come back in the 4th. You can’t just dismiss that.
he had some good plays and drives in the 4th quarter...
so has Tebow. Smith hasn’t ever had much of a 4th quarter problem so much as a game problem generally.
The Detroit game Smith didn’t play well at all but bailed himself out with some solid plays in that last drive. The Giants game in reg season he got the lead at the begininning of the 4th quarter and was nowhere to be seen from then on.
Smith doesn’t have a reputation for being unclutch (there have been few opportunities prior to this year) but he has a deserved reputation of being nothing more than average. If he was still under contract for moderate pay, I can understand. But now that he’s a FA and his value is overblown, take a risk and move on. I suppose you could argue moving on is the safe play (if you acquire another veteran starter — any starter) and keeping him is a risk too.
they tended to have a rather conservative offense for most of the time this year
and opened things up when they needed to which is why he wasn’t putting up tons of yards throughout the games, but he still showed that he could do it when it mattered
Alex is DECENT, not great...
He’s GOOD (arguably) depending on how you look at it.
Hopefully he improves DRAMATICALLY.
The 48ers will look to improve if they can depending upon PRICE and AVAILABILITY. That might mean Smith returns (as a fan that would be BORING to me, but probably not a bad football move), then again, I’m sure the 49ers will be actively looking.
Smith didn’t play so well that ya’ don’t SEE WHAT’S OUT THERE…
This HE’S GOOD/NO HE SUCKS stuff… It just needs to end. He’s NOT AWFUL, he’s NOT GREAT. Enough said.
-- I have many leather-bound books.
-- You show me a guy that can’t juggle 3 tennis balls within an hour and I’ll show you a guy that’s not going to be in the NFL very long.
by I'm Friends With Merlin Olsen on Feb 2, 2012 1:47 PM PST reply actions 2 recs
...and Fooch... How long is that dude in the gimp masking humping a bear...
How long’s he going to be around for? Just curious…
-- I have many leather-bound books.
-- You show me a guy that can’t juggle 3 tennis balls within an hour and I’ll show you a guy that’s not going to be in the NFL very long.
by I'm Friends With Merlin Olsen on Feb 2, 2012 1:49 PM PST reply actions
lol
-- I have many leather-bound books.
-- You show me a guy that can’t juggle 3 tennis balls within an hour and I’ll show you a guy that’s not going to be in the NFL very long.
by I'm Friends With Merlin Olsen on Feb 2, 2012 2:15 PM PST up reply actions
So I mention Smith not improving in the 2nd year with Singletary, then people blame the staff, but then you post stats since we want Carr chants, I mean really? Smith subtracted the turnovers from his equation. However he still is easily rattles and doesn’t trust his accuracy. He can throw wheel routes post patterns and mid field streaks. In my mind its just a matter of time before our offense avgs. 13 points per
1. Kelechi Osemele, OT/G, Iowa State
2.Xavier Rhodes CB FSU/ Vinny Curry OLB/DE Marshall/ LaMichael James*, RB, Oregon
3. Brandon Boykin, CB/KR/PR, Georgia/ Alex Okafor*, DE, Texas
4. DeMarlo belcher WR Indiana
5. Casey Hayward, CB, Vanderbilt
6. Marvin Jones WR Cal
7.T.J. Barnes*, DT/NT, Georgia Tech
"easily rattled" ???
Huh?
…guy’s NOT EASILY RATTLED… 7 years of this shi-hite and he keeps coming back for more?
He’s a lot of things, but “easily rattled” ain’t one of em…
-- I have many leather-bound books.
-- You show me a guy that can’t juggle 3 tennis balls within an hour and I’ll show you a guy that’s not going to be in the NFL very long.
by I'm Friends With Merlin Olsen on Feb 2, 2012 2:18 PM PST up reply actions
also, to be able to hold onto the football and not fumble with how many sacks he took
suggests someone who is not easily rattled
it does suggest a
a QB who holds the ball too long cause he doesn’t have the gall to exploit the defensive backs down the field.
Ben Roethlisberger
4 sacks less than Smith with one fewer games must be a QB who holds the ball too long cause he doesn’t have the gall to exploit the defensive backs down the field.
yeah, lets just do a superficial analysis without actually looking at what happened
there were quite a few sacks where there was just a breakdown in blocking at the line and he didn’t even have 3 seconds to get the ball out
Hey, stop bringing facts into this conversation!
Who's got it better than Honey Badger? Honey Badger don't give a ....
when nine are rushed that will happen.
alex needs to call for the hot route pass and pass the ball immediately; yet 7 year veteran can not do this.
and not having 3 seconds did not happen as often as you say, hyperbole argument. alex was sacked holding the ball 6-8 seconds very often which is plenty of time.
"You know whats funny? I always thought uhm dogs lay eggs and I learned something new today" Peter Griffin
by HUNGRY HUNTER on Feb 3, 2012 2:56 PM PST up reply actions
We don't have hot routes
We “built those in” to the play.
We only have “Let it roll” and “Kill” which decides which of the two plays called will be run.
So if the “built in hot” is covered Alex is just screwed. We do not have a system where Alex can see a linebacker blitzing and know that his slot receiver is going to sprint for the void left behind and look for the ball.
Every time Jamie Dukes says something enlightening and informative about football Jerry Rice and I mount up on our flying grizzly bears and claim pirate treasure from the moon. That's how often it happens.
Don't bother with the ends and outs of Football to him , it's still AleX's fault ...!!
I'm your " Huckelberry "...it's just my game ..( .AleX ) was asked , what do you think about all the game manager talk ... AleX i guess i just managed myself a VIctory ... Extend the Man ...!!
and do not bother posting any besides snippy comments and oh" boy"!
"You know whats funny? I always thought uhm dogs lay eggs and I learned something new today" Peter Griffin
by HUNGRY HUNTER on Feb 4, 2012 12:54 AM PST up reply actions
most of the time alex makes the play a run play against the blitz
even some plays alex runs the running play right at the blitz.
a hot route can be as simple as a look or some type of motion between a qb and wide out or tight end. it does not have to be “kill or let it roll” and those are not really calling a “hot route” just changing between run play and pass play.
again there is no hot routes which is all because of the qb.
"You know whats funny? I always thought uhm dogs lay eggs and I learned something new today" Peter Griffin
by HUNGRY HUNTER on Feb 4, 2012 12:57 AM PST up reply actions
Yes, it can be that simple
But we don’t do it and that is not Alex’s decision. That is the way Harbaugh and company simplified the offense. The hots are built in and we allow the defense to leave huge gaping holes in the underneath zones without making them pay for it.
Again, this is another one of the reasons I am always saying that this offense is fundamentally flawed.
Every time Jamie Dukes says something enlightening and informative about football Jerry Rice and I mount up on our flying grizzly bears and claim pirate treasure from the moon. That's how often it happens.
that is the way it has been for seven years
when it happens for seven years and all the coaches have changed many time over; it is hard for me to blame the coaches.
"You know whats funny? I always thought uhm dogs lay eggs and I learned something new today" Peter Griffin
by HUNGRY HUNTER on Feb 4, 2012 1:01 PM PST up reply actions
we have multiple bad coaches who don't put much into the offensive scheme
and you don’t think you can blame the coaches….wow
mike mcarthy, mike martz, norve turner, uhm…. really?
all three have been on super bowl winning teams and as a result have super bowl rings.
"You know whats funny? I always thought uhm dogs lay eggs and I learned something new today" Peter Griffin
by HUNGRY HUNTER on Feb 4, 2012 3:18 PM PST up reply actions
irrelavent!
everyone knows that QBs should be playing while on IR! Or at least you’d think so if you believed Hungry Hunters comments
by Andrew9erfan on Feb 5, 2012 12:04 PM PST up reply actions
mcarthy for one season with zero talent around him
improved a lot under Norv and was hurt when Martz was there. Yes really
by Andrew9erfan on Feb 5, 2012 12:03 PM PST up reply actions
Also that 07 season was a disaster
with Nolan guilting Alex into playing with a separated shoulder (that was his injury IIRC) and Jeff Hostler just generally being about the worst OC ever.
when nine are rushed?
that was never needed to get pressure with our O line. And you complain about hyperbole arguments, lol
never had nine rushed?
when the line has been overrun it has been with 8-9 rushed
"You know whats funny? I always thought uhm dogs lay eggs and I learned something new today" Peter Griffin
by HUNGRY HUNTER on Feb 4, 2012 12:54 AM PST up reply actions
has nothing to do w/being rattled or not
just an aspect of his game he’s focused on and made a point to improve
you don’t necessarily fumble as a qb because you’re “rattled”…
and LUCK is involved in the turnover thing as well… We won’t be +28 next year, and if alex is back and takes the same number of sacks, he’ll probably have more fumbles.
everything doesn’t ALWAYS have an explanation. the ball’s SHAPED FUNNY and strange things can happen when it starts bouncing around…
-- I have many leather-bound books.
-- You show me a guy that can’t juggle 3 tennis balls within an hour and I’ll show you a guy that’s not going to be in the NFL very long.
by I'm Friends With Merlin Olsen on Feb 2, 2012 3:54 PM PST up reply actions
but he did improve in the 2nd year with Singletary
the second half of the season he started to play pretty well
No sense in trying to argue witha a Career college student that prolly can't even throw a Football ...!!
I'm your " Huckelberry "...it's just my game ..( .AleX ) was asked , what do you think about all the game manager talk ... AleX i guess i just managed myself a VIctory ... Extend the Man ...!!
alex is less great, better than average......
now can we stop this nonsense that EVERY SINGLE F’ING THREAD is turning into?
mind-numbing
-- I have many leather-bound books.
-- You show me a guy that can’t juggle 3 tennis balls within an hour and I’ll show you a guy that’s not going to be in the NFL very long.
by I'm Friends With Merlin Olsen on Feb 2, 2012 3:56 PM PST up reply actions
I own my own business, Im done with college. I played WR at ISU.
You my friend are Out of your league.
1. Kelechi Osemele, OT/G, Iowa State
2.Xavier Rhodes CB FSU/ Vinny Curry OLB/DE Marshall/ LaMichael James*, RB, Oregon
3. Brandon Boykin, CB/KR/PR, Georgia/ Alex Okafor*, DE, Texas
4. DeMarlo belcher WR Indiana
5. Casey Hayward, CB, Vanderbilt
6. Marvin Jones WR Cal
7.T.J. Barnes*, DT/NT, Georgia Tech
You played colllege ball? Thats pretty cool.
thats pretty cool.
And when we win, we want to dominate. We want to take guys out. We want to hurt guys. We want to win. We just want to dominate, hit them in the mouth. - Rathman
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Its not that big of a deal, but its funny when people mouth off, due to fanhood.
Easily detached from reality. Alex is damaged goods, not as bad as Bulger, but his career was fumbled, in my opinion, its too late.
1. Kelechi Osemele, OT/G, Iowa State
2.Xavier Rhodes CB FSU/ Vinny Curry OLB/DE Marshall/ LaMichael James*, RB, Oregon
3. Brandon Boykin, CB/KR/PR, Georgia/ Alex Okafor*, DE, Texas
4. DeMarlo belcher WR Indiana
5. Casey Hayward, CB, Vanderbilt
6. Marvin Jones WR Cal
7.T.J. Barnes*, DT/NT, Georgia Tech
but its funny when people mouth off, due to fanhood.
hat’s usually just edggy who does that (drew did as well to a lot of people)), you make a point being any critical of alex smith, and all he does is tell you you dont know anything and that you’re an idiot while he continues to say how great he is
"And thank you to God for making me an Atheist." - Ricky Gervais
by MichaelClutchtree on Feb 3, 2012 7:36 AM PST up reply actions
Edggy usually points to team success and faith in Harbaugh
but it is totally homerism. Which is ok. I have a theory that the biggest fans tend to be the biggest critics though as they want perfection. I don’t consider myself a die-hard fan based on that I am content with the 49ers.
I played college ping pong
and college Pool. The makes me qualified to tell you that Alex Smith is a terrible breaker, and has a terrible hesitation backspin serve.
Dont know, but If you graduate and an asshole that calls you a lifetime college student should go f himself.
T
1. Kelechi Osemele, OT/G, Iowa State
2.Xavier Rhodes CB FSU/ Vinny Curry OLB/DE Marshall/ LaMichael James*, RB, Oregon
3. Brandon Boykin, CB/KR/PR, Georgia/ Alex Okafor*, DE, Texas
4. DeMarlo belcher WR Indiana
5. Casey Hayward, CB, Vanderbilt
6. Marvin Jones WR Cal
7.T.J. Barnes*, DT/NT, Georgia Tech
Well watch these posts more closely mod, theres a ton of swearing in which you say nothing.
Kinda like an NFL ref half “site decorum” on the job.
1. Kelechi Osemele, OT/G, Iowa State
2.Xavier Rhodes CB FSU/ Vinny Curry OLB/DE Marshall/ LaMichael James*, RB, Oregon
3. Brandon Boykin, CB/KR/PR, Georgia/ Alex Okafor*, DE, Texas
4. DeMarlo belcher WR Indiana
5. Casey Hayward, CB, Vanderbilt
6. Marvin Jones WR Cal
7.T.J. Barnes*, DT/NT, Georgia Tech
then flag them
I try and moderate as little as possible. Would you prefer I delete your comment in which you blatantly break site decorum, personally attack another to go f themselves, and warn you?
I try and moderate as little as possible.
I don’t wanna blow up comments. Ya I saw that video on modding.
And when we win, we want to dominate. We want to take guys out. We want to hurt guys. We want to win. We just want to dominate, hit them in the mouth. - Rathman
Follow @manraj76
Doesnt matter, do what you will. His attack was a personal attack, you didnt mention that at all.
1. Kelechi Osemele, OT/G, Iowa State
2.Xavier Rhodes CB FSU/ Vinny Curry OLB/DE Marshall/ LaMichael James*, RB, Oregon
3. Brandon Boykin, CB/KR/PR, Georgia/ Alex Okafor*, DE, Texas
4. DeMarlo belcher WR Indiana
5. Casey Hayward, CB, Vanderbilt
6. Marvin Jones WR Cal
7.T.J. Barnes*, DT/NT, Georgia Tech
and I let you take care of it
your comment put him in his place that you are a graduate and have actually played college ball.
And I let you go at him again with no warnings or deleted comments. But you called him an asshole. Why? That clearly breaks site decorum and I asked you to watch the language. Even tongue in cheek by calling you a lifetime college graduate. I would have preferred it to end there.
As much as I have disagreed with some of your stances, I have agreed with the majority. I don’t think I need to be called out for letting you take care of yourself.
My comment and reply wasn't direct at you , the reply stems from further up ...
… but hey , if you want to take it personal and wear it mold it hold on to it days on end , be my guess , I mean dang how many days ago was it , get over it bro , I’m sure you have better things to do then hold on to such a thing that was once stated on the Internet …!!
I'm your " Huckelberry "...it's just my game ..( .AleX ) was asked , what do you think about all the game manager talk ... AleX i guess i just managed myself a VIctory ... Extend the Man ...!!
trying posting stuff with substance and not snippy comments.
"You know whats funny? I always thought uhm dogs lay eggs and I learned something new today" Peter Griffin
by HUNGRY HUNTER on Feb 4, 2012 12:58 AM PST up reply actions
He didnt improve, he played worse. The back end of that schedule was extremely weak.
1. Kelechi Osemele, OT/G, Iowa State
2.Xavier Rhodes CB FSU/ Vinny Curry OLB/DE Marshall/ LaMichael James*, RB, Oregon
3. Brandon Boykin, CB/KR/PR, Georgia/ Alex Okafor*, DE, Texas
4. DeMarlo belcher WR Indiana
5. Casey Hayward, CB, Vanderbilt
6. Marvin Jones WR Cal
7.T.J. Barnes*, DT/NT, Georgia Tech
he played much better in the second half of the season. that's improvement
Alex smith critics always complain about excuses made for him but come up with excuses of their own for when he plays well
He didnt play well the second half of the season. Funny you want to
Ignore the first half of that season, he was in the second year of the system. That’s the point, but you want to put all of his horrific play on the back burner as if it didn’t happen. You’re doing the same thing.
1. Kelechi Osemele, OT/G, Iowa State
2.Xavier Rhodes CB FSU/ Vinny Curry OLB/DE Marshall/ LaMichael James*, RB, Oregon
3. Brandon Boykin, CB/KR/PR, Georgia/ Alex Okafor*, DE, Texas
4. DeMarlo belcher WR Indiana
5. Casey Hayward, CB, Vanderbilt
6. Marvin Jones WR Cal
7.T.J. Barnes*, DT/NT, Georgia Tech
that's exactly what I'm not doing
By saying that he improved in the second half of the season. The fact that I call it an improvement means that he had to have been doing worse before. I don’t think that he’s great or anything but you act like anyone who gives him any credit at alll thinks tha he’s an elite qb.
by Andrew9erfan on Feb 3, 2012 10:12 AM PST up reply actions
Thats not the case at all.
1. Kelechi Osemele, OT/G, Iowa State
2.Xavier Rhodes CB FSU/ Vinny Curry OLB/DE Marshall/ LaMichael James*, RB, Oregon
3. Brandon Boykin, CB/KR/PR, Georgia/ Alex Okafor*, DE, Texas
4. DeMarlo belcher WR Indiana
5. Casey Hayward, CB, Vanderbilt
6. Marvin Jones WR Cal
7.T.J. Barnes*, DT/NT, Georgia Tech
you saying that doesn't make it not true
I can admit when smith plays bad but you can never seem to accept the good
If they give him a 3-4 year deal
Then Harbaugh and company clearly believe in the guy. After I watched what Harbaugh did at Stanford, I’ve said “I trust Harbaugh” since the day the 49ers announced they hired him.
Arguably one of the best QB coaches in the country… if he sticks with Alex, there’s a reason.
If they make a long term commitment to Alex Smith that can't be easily voided
That is another signal that as far as the offense is concerned we don’t know what we are doing.
Every time Jamie Dukes says something enlightening and informative about football Jerry Rice and I mount up on our flying grizzly bears and claim pirate treasure from the moon. That's how often it happens.
Nope ...
… That is another signal that as far as the offense is concerned we You don’t know what we they are doing…!!
I'm your " Huckelberry "...it's just my game ..( .AleX ) was asked , what do you think about all the game manager talk ... AleX i guess i just managed myself a VIctory ... Extend the Man ...!!
If you are a self proclaimed "power running team"
That can’t run the football in power situations, and can’t convert a third down to save your life, whether it be third and long, third and short, or third and 5 — you don’t know what you are doing. Period. You are being out coached. Even with huge talent differentials you can do better than what we did this year.
Every time Jamie Dukes says something enlightening and informative about football Jerry Rice and I mount up on our flying grizzly bears and claim pirate treasure from the moon. That's how often it happens.
because teams that go 13-3 in the regular season
And make it to the nfc championship game are clearly being out coached
When you field one of the best scoring defenses
Since the turn of the century and the top special teams unit you can field the Jacksonville offense and still win 9 or 10 games.
Every time Jamie Dukes says something enlightening and informative about football Jerry Rice and I mount up on our flying grizzly bears and claim pirate treasure from the moon. That's how often it happens.
by Ougadas on Feb 3, 2012 8:37 AM PST up reply actions 2 recs
Bwahahahahaaa, reality rec man is in full effect.
1. Kelechi Osemele, OT/G, Iowa State
2.Xavier Rhodes CB FSU/ Vinny Curry OLB/DE Marshall/ LaMichael James*, RB, Oregon
3. Brandon Boykin, CB/KR/PR, Georgia/ Alex Okafor*, DE, Texas
4. DeMarlo belcher WR Indiana
5. Casey Hayward, CB, Vanderbilt
6. Marvin Jones WR Cal
7.T.J. Barnes*, DT/NT, Georgia Tech
and if they have a defense that's performing that well and they're winning games
they’re not being out coached
This is what I don't get about you , you clearly know the game ....
… but what you don’t take into context is , the other side of the ball is trying to do as much and or more in the same manner , was their third down conversion bad ……………. ( absolutely ) … was it a bad play call , poor execution , missed assignment , did the defense just execute better …( maybe ) … we don’t know , all I try too do is keep it real from what I see and take in all the varibles that go along with the game of Football as a TEAM …!!
I'm your " Huckelberry "...it's just my game ..( .AleX ) was asked , what do you think about all the game manager talk ... AleX i guess i just managed myself a VIctory ... Extend the Man ...!!
We do know
I’ve written half a book on why and have went into some detail on it. And I do think I’m not forgetting that the opposing team is fielding a defense.
Every time Jamie Dukes says something enlightening and informative about football Jerry Rice and I mount up on our flying grizzly bears and claim pirate treasure from the moon. That's how often it happens.
You can write all the books you want , it still isn't a forgone conclusion ...
… unless you know the plays that were called and able to break down the tape , it’s only speculation at this point …!!
I'm your " Huckelberry "...it's just my game ..( .AleX ) was asked , what do you think about all the game manager talk ... AleX i guess i just managed myself a VIctory ... Extend the Man ...!!
That is why it wont happen, Niners will have an early out on Smiths deal.
1. Kelechi Osemele, OT/G, Iowa State
2.Xavier Rhodes CB FSU/ Vinny Curry OLB/DE Marshall/ LaMichael James*, RB, Oregon
3. Brandon Boykin, CB/KR/PR, Georgia/ Alex Okafor*, DE, Texas
4. DeMarlo belcher WR Indiana
5. Casey Hayward, CB, Vanderbilt
6. Marvin Jones WR Cal
7.T.J. Barnes*, DT/NT, Georgia Tech
I'm assuming we are going to ride this Alex train until Kaep is ready
So we need to pick up a WR that doesn’t have to rely on the QB to be great (thinking shaun hill-megatron). Thats why I’m hoping Alshon Jeffery drops to #30. Concerns with speed/separation, but he is a big, tall, possession-type wideout that gives Alex the luxury of overthrowing with success. Doesn’t come with the Dwayne Bowe price tag.
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