Randy Moss
by Andy Reno on Feb 13, 2012 5:17 PM PST
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PrintSo Mr Moss wants to play ball? Would he fit the niners ? Can Alex be a Qb to step up to the long ball? WR core Moss Crabby(still not sold on hime) and Morgan Ginn as #4. Is Moss to old ? Who else do you like as a #1 WR . Can we compleat again with the sub par offence we had last Year. Just for laughs WR Moss Colston Crab Morgan Any ideas we could use the help
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Randy Moss? NO! Why? We can do better ...
Here’s my desired Niners’ 2012 WR corps:
- Dwayne Bowe … Kansas City free agent.
- Michael Crabtree.
- Joshua Morgan … re-signed to 2-3 year contract by Niners.
- Stephen Hill … Georgia Tech WR drafted in 2nd round of April draft.
- Kyle Williams.
- Ted Ginn … re-signed to 2-3 year contract by Niners with primary duty being KR and PR.
by 49erFanSince1950 on Feb 13, 2012 6:36 PM PST reply actions
Bowe wants 9-10 mil, we would be down to 20, call it 21.
Smith 6-8 call it 6 that’s 15 left, add in Brooks, Costanzo, Goldson, Finn and Morgan and it doesn’t mathematically fit. No on Bowe, simply because its not gonna work cap wise.
Gonna make the WR position relevant again? When?
Exactly.
Gotta pay the guys that took us to the NFC championship game this year before we start paying new faces. The other way around is a horrible team killing precedent.
Stevie Johnson is the most bang for our FA buck. We gotta find guys that would be willing to work with us. Guys like Bowe who will find people willing to pay “what they are worth” are not going to be those guys.
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on Feb 14, 2012 2:54 AM PST up reply actions
I agree on Stevie
kinda’ hoping we bag him for reasonable money
Alex Smith: 25 or more TD's, 15 or fewer INT's in 2012. I'm not a AS apologist or defender, I'm a believer.
C'mon Andy
At the very least, run a spellchecker.
"It all depends on the quarterback."
---Jerry Rice
by 10forTech on Feb 13, 2012 6:49 PM PST reply actions 4 recs
spell check ??
i speaka no habla / enlash/ rooskie polack irisrash paddy
Ok so I was tired and lazy my bad
It's not too late to fix it
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Click on the edit feature and edit your post.
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"It all depends on the quarterback."
---Jerry Rice
by 10forTech on Feb 14, 2012 6:05 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
I'd sooner have T.O.
At least T.O. plays every play, unlike Randy “I play when I wanna” Moss.
Who's got it better than Honey Badger? Honey Badger don't give a ....
Kaepernick's raw talent + Harbaugh's coaching = Hall of Fame QB
anything moss is just something for talking head to fill time
you want an old wr; reggie wayne
"You know whats funny? I always thought uhm dogs lay eggs and I learned something new today" Peter Griffin
everyone would admit that Wayne is
a better option…but Wayne can command a real, legitimate contract, while Moss can be had for the bare minimum plus incentives. I’d rather have Wayne, but that’s not the issue at hand. The issue at hand is, if Moss is deemed capable of performing by the powers that be, then, considering waht it will take to sing him (next to nothing), is it worth while to sign him if you need help at WR? How is that answer not YES?.
Disagree...
Based on Moss’ past, he’s not going to settle for ‘bare minimum’ he knows he was an elite WR and he will push it when it comes time to sign contracts. Incentives are nice, but in the end I highly doubt he would be alright with signing any kind of contract that had less than elite WR payment.
by Chaotic9erFan on Feb 15, 2012 9:25 AM PST up reply actions
Which would be my preference...
IF (that’s a huge IF) the front office wanted to deal with him. But Moss’ past shows us that he usually does not want to deal unles a) he’s got a multi million $ contract and b) he’s got a better than decent shot at going to the SB.
by Chaotic9erFan on Feb 15, 2012 12:25 PM PST up reply actions
If you can get Moss to play
you will have one of the greatest WRs ever. Bordering near the lines of being better than Rice.
And when we win, we want to dominate. We want to take guys out. We want to hurt guys. We want to win. We just want to dominate, hit them in the mouth. - Rathman
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by manraj7 on Feb 15, 2012 10:53 AM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Bill Walsh said a player that was once great can be great again. Something along those lines, not an exact quote, but, I think the point can be grasped.
Gonna make the WR position relevant again? When?
ya I feel you
I mean just 2 years ago he was really good.
And when we win, we want to dominate. We want to take guys out. We want to hurt guys. We want to win. We just want to dominate, hit them in the mouth. - Rathman
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2 years ago he was awful
whether that’s attributable to an actual regression in skills/ability or due to his tendency to “quit” is debatable. The Pats, Vikings, and Titans all dumped him in one season.
I thought he played pretty well in NE
And when we win, we want to dominate. We want to take guys out. We want to hurt guys. We want to win. We just want to dominate, hit them in the mouth. - Rathman
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It's not like he didn't want to play last season
It’s that he’s washed up. He didn’t retire. 32 individual teams individually looked at him at decided, for whatever reason, no thanks. The same will likely happen this year unless someone gets desperation goggles and that 180 pound bruiser in flannel turns into a slender knockout in heels.
Every time Jamie Dukes says something enlightening and informative about football Jerry Rice and I mount up on our flying grizzly bears and claim pirate treasure from the moon. That's how often it happens.
I'm gonna go with no
don’t think he can play anymore. definitely don’t need the attitude.
If you don't like Brandon Medders you're not a true fan.
Randy Moss pisses me the hell off
If he had even remotely consistently applied himself he could have numbers approaching some of Jerry’s records.
Attack this day with an enthusiasm unknown to mankind. ~ Jack Harbaugh
So, you cant change the past. And you work for which organization?
Gonna make the WR position relevant again? When?
What are you even talking about?
Attack this day with an enthusiasm unknown to mankind. ~ Jack Harbaugh
Your comment.
Randy Moss pissed me the hell off…blah blah blah, so, can he help the team or not? Just wondering, why so serious? And personal.
Gonna make the WR position relevant again? When?
Personal nor all that serious? Not meant to be.
The pisses me off part was tongue in cheek.
I was simply saying as a fan it is frustrating seeing someone with so much talent and skill actually quit at times throughout his career. Especially with how many players give everything they have, but just never make it in the league because they aren’t as physically gifted.
I’m don’t hate him, think he’s a terrible person or has had a useless career, it is just frustrating. And I know when he wants to, he gives full effort and plays as hard as he can, it is just those particular times he just gives up are hard to grasp.
I was just speaking in general about him, but as far as helping the team I think it would be mostly up to him. He is 35, which isn’t young, but better than 40. Assuming he stays in shape and wants to play, which it sounds like, he could be useful. Though I can’t imagine he’d stay interested in the season for the long haul with Alex and with Harbaugh’s conservative system. People criticize Crabtree, but he was always playing hard from what I saw, I wouldn’t expect that from Moss.
Attack this day with an enthusiasm unknown to mankind. ~ Jack Harbaugh
who cares about attitudes?
this is the NFL. If a franchise thinks he can still play, then you sign him.
it's not black and white
Talent plays a big role, but teams likely consider other factors, and rightfully so. Chemistry in the locker room and on the field might not be some end all, be all, but I would be stunned if it wasn’t a factor for teams.
by David Fucillo on Feb 14, 2012 9:59 PM PST up reply actions
The Jets didn't care about attitudes.
How’d that work out for them?
"Bears are crazy, Willie. They'll bite your head off if you're wearing steak on it."
by Blank x2 on Feb 15, 2012 8:48 AM PST via mobile up reply actions
neither did the bengals
Rule #1) If you hate Joe Buck, watch this www.youtube.com/watch?v=fkCSZKbyL94
Rule #2) Follow rule #1
You can't be serious.
His attitude has directly affected his on field play all throughout his career and every single GM in the league who even thinks about signing him this year is going to consider that.
I don’t think he’s really had many locker room issues though, which is kind of surprising.
Attack this day with an enthusiasm unknown to mankind. ~ Jack Harbaugh
by Virginia9er on Feb 15, 2012 10:01 AM PST up reply actions
attitude matters when the attitude makes him not play
And when we win, we want to dominate. We want to take guys out. We want to hurt guys. We want to win. We just want to dominate, hit them in the mouth. - Rathman
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As Chris Carter said yesterday
He’s got more quit in him than any other player I’ve ever seen.
Gimme 1 round!
get him to play and you have one of the greatest ever.
And when we win, we want to dominate. We want to take guys out. We want to hurt guys. We want to win. We just want to dominate, hit them in the mouth. - Rathman
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by manraj7 on Feb 14, 2012 8:16 PM PST via iPhone app up reply actions 1 recs
not at 35 though...
…bottom line, if a franchise thinks he can still play, not signing him for a base salary near the league minimum is foolish, especially if you need help at WR like the Niners do.
He could still play before he retired.
And when we win, we want to dominate. We want to take guys out. We want to hurt guys. We want to win. We just want to dominate, hit them in the mouth. - Rathman
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League Minimum?
Randy Moss’ dog doesn’t get out bed for the league minimum.
by throwthedamnball on Feb 15, 2012 12:51 PM PST up reply actions
T.O. didn't want to play for the league minimum either.
Turns out he didn’t even have a chance to take/reject an offer, cause nobody wanted him. Nobody is gonna pay this guy a base salary of more than $500,000.
He would help our team more than any FA WR
Also flagged…
And when we win, we want to dominate. We want to take guys out. We want to hurt guys. We want to win. We just want to dominate, hit them in the mouth. - Rathman
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by manraj7 on Feb 15, 2012 3:31 PM PST via iPhone app up reply actions
He knows he can't pass the piss test for a warehouse job
And his unemployment is running out.
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on Feb 14, 2012 7:55 PM PST up reply actions
If -- and only if -- the niners or any other team thinks he can still play and be a major factor in NFL games,
then it is stupid not to consider him for a minimum base salary, incentive-laden deal. the niners signing Moss to that type of contract — the only contract he will be able to command — is less of risk than, say, signing Alex Smith to a 4 yr deal at close to $10 million per with half of that guaranteed.
And for cheap too, he didn't blow his money like TO
Last time Randy was motivated, he was burning Revis so bad that he had to act like he injured his hamstring. He beat Revis within the first 3 steps, if he still has any bit of that left bring him to the Bay. Plus, one of the best sets of hands ever, makes circus catches like it’s nothing. He doesn’t like the Media, and all was going well until he thought the Pats wouldn’t resign him. Brady and Belichek still say how Moss was a great teammate. About him taking plays off, I’ve never seen him disappear like our receivers did in the NFC Championship game.
Randy DEEP on Revis
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