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2011 49ers Grades: Frank Gore

SEATTLE - DECEMBER 24:  Running back Frank Gore #21 of the San Francisco 49ers rushes against Richard Sherman #25 of the Seattle Seahawks at CenturyLink Field on December 24, 2011 in Seattle, Washington. The 49ers defeated the Seahawks 19-17. (Photo by Otto Greule Jr/Getty Images)

Today we get to a player that will raise an assortment of opinions as the 49ers continue looking to build for the long term future. The 49ers rushing attack had its ups and downs in 2011 with dominant performances some days and next to nothing on other days.

Frank Gore surpassed the franchise NFL rushing record and had a strong run of big games, including five straight 100+ rushing performances, four of which were 125+ yards. There were times where Gore looked like the back of old, cutting and slashing through defenses with relative ease.

Of course, there were also the early season struggles, the late season struggles, and the injuries mixed in that resulted in Gore occasionally pulling himself from games for a breather. There have been times we have proclaimed the need for a bit more balance in the rushing game with a solid backup, but at the same time there was something funky about Gore's struggles at times.

It is worth noting that Frank stepped his game back up come playoff time. He rushed for 89 yards, averaging 6.8 per carry against the Saints, and then rushed for 74 yards, average 4.6 per carry against the Giants. It is also worth noting that he had 13 catches for 83 yards in two playoff games after a regular season total of 17 catches for 114 yards. Given how little the 49ers were going to Gore in the passing game during the regular season, it was interesting to see them pick it back up in the postseason.

Star-divide

As the 49ers head into the offseason, the running back position remains a question mark. Frank Gore had his second best season in terms of total rushing yards and touchdowns, and had only his second complete 16-game season. Of course, he missed some time in games with a variety of ailments as he wore down a bit this year.

How will Frank the Tank bounce back in 2012? Will we see the team look for some additional running back options via free agency or the draft? We know the 49ers are not going to be pursuing a starting option like Ray Rice or Matt Forte. While most anything is possible, it would be stunning bordering on ludicrous to expect the 49ers to make a run at them.

Instead, the 49ers would seem likely to look for some short yardage options. Anthony Dixon was utilized a bit in that role, but he has not found any sort of sustained success as a running back in the NFL. Maybe the 49ers make a run at a Mike Tolbert type of running back? Tolbert has indicated he would like to return to San Diego, but he has said he will do what is best for his family. I could see the 49ers getting in on that discussion, but if the bidding gets too high for Tolbert, the 49ers have shown an interest in fiscal responsibility.

Frank Gore will likely remain the lead back in 2012, but with Kendall Hunter's solid rookie season and the potential addition of some kind of short yardage option, we could see Frank's workload decline. How do you see it playing out?

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How would you rate Frank Gore's 2011 season on a 1-10 scale (1=worst rating, 10=best rating)?
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2 votes
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1 votes
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5 votes
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11 votes
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33 votes
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93 votes
7
278 votes
8
394 votes
9
181 votes
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73 votes

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Piss poor catching passes this year and it cost us a number of drives and points. Also showed clear loss of the breakaway speed he previously had; a couple long runs would have gone for TDs in previous years. Nothing else I really need to say.

by 9thevolution on Feb 17, 2012 8:06 AM PST reply actions  

I chose 8 because of all the drops

still put up 1200+ yards rushing, can’t argue with that.

by reedkrase on Feb 17, 2012 8:44 AM PST up reply actions  

True....

But it was too big a regression from being one of the most reliable pass catchers out of the backfield to a guy where I would cringe watching if I thought for a second that the pass was going to Gore.

by 9thevolution on Feb 17, 2012 9:49 AM PST up reply actions  

It was an ironic regression

since it had nothing to do with age or ability, same QB, same passes as in year’s past. No idea why he had such a problem holding on this year.

by reedkrase on Feb 17, 2012 1:41 PM PST up reply actions  

All the drops?

How about all the terrible check down passes? Never on the numbers, never leading the player away from the tackler. They almost always look like throws of desperation with no care about helping the receiver make a play.

by asmithisaverage on Feb 17, 2012 9:40 AM PST up reply actions  

Get over yourself

If a pass hits you in the hands, you need to catch it. Gore had his eyes up field before he ever secured the ball on nearly every single one of his drops. Your bias clouds your judgement.

by 9thevolution on Feb 17, 2012 9:47 AM PST up reply actions  

Taking your eyes off the ball....

yes a few other receivers had that same problem and it resulted in drops.

We are talking about drops….. DROPS……. these are NFL football players, if the ball hits you in the hands, you should be catching it. As I said, your clear bias and hatred clouds your judgement and ability to objectively assess the topic; which is Frank Gore clearly dropping passes he has caught easily in the past.

by 9thevolution on Feb 17, 2012 11:13 AM PST up reply actions  

I am not biased or driven by hate

so stop making stuff up. I’ll let that crap slide once, but not twice. There could be a whole reel of dump off passes by Alex Smith in 2011 (and like 1 of them would be a successful screen) and almost none of them would be good throws. This isn’t anything new. It is well documented Smith is not a good short passer. This was definitely on news on this website last year.

by asmithisaverage on Feb 17, 2012 11:16 AM PST up reply actions  

You're changing the subject...

You can say Smith is terrible all you want, but if a pass hits you in the hands, as a professional NFL player, you should catch it. I would be a real jerkoff and put in all capitals but it would make little difference as you would still say that it is Smith’s problem not the receiver or back who failed to secure the ball which was catchable.

by 9thevolution on Feb 17, 2012 11:25 AM PST up reply actions  

Yes, you could be a jerk

but you can also remember Jerry Rice dropped a few passes in his day. It happens. It should be minimized. But on short throws you’ve got admit it shouldn’t take a miracle to hit someone on the numbers. Forcing athletic catches for -1 yard is not a check in the plus column.

by asmithisaverage on Feb 17, 2012 11:44 AM PST up reply actions  

You are correct

and I cannot understand the unabashed rah-rahism that demands a realistic appreciation of Alex Smith’s lack of skills makes one a “hater”.
The drops DO have more than a little to do with delivery. Go back and watch, you’ll see.

by TheCatch81 on Feb 17, 2012 12:11 PM PST via mobile up reply actions  

and yet previous years with the same guy throwing he had no problems catching

so yeah, there was a difference this year in Gore’s catching

I'm not an Alex Smith appologist. I'm an Alex hater hater.

by Andrew9erfan on Feb 17, 2012 3:01 PM PST up reply actions  

You're being really silly

Alex has been an incredibly average QB all of 2011. The only improvement he has made since yelling at Singletary was to stop making turnovers. Everything else is in the bottom tier of statistics. I guess when all other options are off the table, like in the Saints game, he will appear to be a confident QB who sees how a play will develop but that’s the exception not the rule. We’ve collected nearly a decade of evidence and you are still overly optimistic based on nearly zero evidence.

I want you to be right, but not at the cost of another year where we can’t cross the finish line with a plethora of offensive opportunities.

by asmithisaverage on Feb 18, 2012 9:17 AM PST up reply actions  

Yes, because the wonder of this block is that replies are indented so you can see who derailed the conversation.

Again, still disappointed this year in Gore, who the worst year of his career in catch %, yards and yards per reception.

by reedkrase on Feb 21, 2012 1:22 PM PST up reply actions  

I agree with this somewhat

Alex did throw some horrible screen passes that are just inexcusable from a pro QB, but Frank did take his eyes off a number of those passes too. Overall I’d put 50/50 responsibility. Alex still had some happy feet throws and Gore was trying to run with the ball before he caught it. Full off season should hopefully rectify the situation.

by throwthedamnball on Feb 17, 2012 9:51 AM PST up reply actions  

full offseaon

should also cure cancer and end poverty as well hahaha

by leadoff0011 on Feb 17, 2012 4:45 PM PST up reply actions  

have you tried basing your opinion on facts instead random emotion?

Frank Gore Reciving Stats from Football Outsider: http://footballoutsiders.com/player/15937/frank-gore
2008 43recs, 66 targets, 65% catch rate, 373 yards, 2TDs, 8.7 yards a catch
2009 53recs, 76 targets, 70% catch rate, 406 yards, 3TDs, 7.7 yards a catch
2010 46recs, 72 targets, 64% catch rate, 452 yards, 2TDs 9.8 yards a catch
2011 17recs, 31 targets, 55% catch rate, 114 yards, 0 TDs, 6.7 yards a catch

In case you didn’t realize this, Alex Smith was Gore’s QB in 2009 and 2010. Pretty fair to say that Gore dropped considerably more passes than he has in years past, hence the disappointment.

by reedkrase on Feb 17, 2012 2:01 PM PST up reply actions  

facts, yes, but...

Let’s not forget that Alex wasn’t the only QB in 2009 or 2010, he only played in 11 games each year.

Also, the difference between a 55% to 65% reception rate is only 3 more catches in 2011.

In general, let’s make sure when we generically talk about catching anything that hits his hands that the pass wasn’t a throwaway from Alex that he came close to catching.

Anybody got time to make a highlight reel of those 31 targets for us?

by jsnreno on Feb 17, 2012 2:31 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

3 more catches could have made a big difference in our offense

especially when you factor in that the drive would have been extended. Drops kill drives.

that said, a highlight reel is a great idea . . . sure you don’t have the time to put one together?

by reedkrase on Feb 17, 2012 4:43 PM PST up reply actions  

A big difference how? The biggest practical difference they could have made was each reception turning one of our losses into a win, securing the #1 seed. And that’s a level of selective reasoning I can’t even begin to talk about (especially because it supposes that his one hypothetical score in Baltimore would have made up 10 points).

But the 49ers ran 993 plays in 2011. Those three receptions Gore dropped over his average would have been three hundredths of one percent of that. Can three hundredths of one percent really be a big difference?

Assume Gore turns those three receptions into his career y/r average. We’ve just tacked on 25 yards. Total. For the season. The 49ers threw for 2,930 yards when you subtract for sacks (25 would be eight hundredths of a percent of that) and accumulated 4,974 total yards on offense (25 would be five hundredths of a percent of that).

So any way we try to slice it, three plays would be in the hundredths of a percent of what this offense did for the season.

And that’s not even beginning to talk about how ridiculous it is to read meaning into a three-point deviation within a 31-point sample, which are both small enough numbers not to be useful for meaningful football analysis.

Once more, coming to you by proxy.

by howtheyscored on Feb 17, 2012 10:35 PM PST up reply actions  

damn

Gonna make the WR position relevant again? When?

by rlott#42 on Feb 17, 2012 11:04 PM PST up reply actions  

your assessment is flawed because it fails to account for the drive continuing

3 extra catches at Gore’s average is 25 yards, or 2 extra first downs.
That would provide an additional 4-6 plays
49ers averaged a first down every 4 plays, so an additional 4-6 plays would result in another first down and another 2-3 plays.

The result so now we’re up to 6-9 extra plays in addition to Gore’s 25 yards, in other words, three drops resulted in nearly a 1% reduction in the number of plays we were able to run for the entire season.

That, in my opinion, is a big difference

by reedkrase on Feb 18, 2012 2:09 PM PST up reply actions  

A lot of those drops would not have reached his average though.

Gonna make the WR position relevant again? When?

by rlott#42 on Feb 18, 2012 3:43 PM PST up reply actions  

A lot of those drops would have exceeded the average and may have led to TDs or at least resulted in points.

That’s why we use the average.

by reedkrase on Feb 21, 2012 1:09 PM PST up reply actions  

I'd love to

But I would need a TV, cable package, and isn’t there some kind of NFL package that costs like an arm and a leg?

I just looked at Frank’s stats for the year, rather interesting.

13 of the 17 catches were in the first 8 games (Split Stats on Yahoo), and 2008 and 2010 were comparable.

14 of the catches were in the first half of games (Situational Stats on Yahoo), and 2008 was comparable.

Not sure what it means, but it is what it is.

by jsnreno on Feb 18, 2012 10:32 PM PST up reply actions  

not sure what that means either, but I appreciate the effort

by reedkrase on Feb 21, 2012 1:10 PM PST up reply actions  

seriously, if you can go back and look.

Frank did drop some, no doubt, but a rushed flat and low ‘throwaway’ motion was responsible for more than a couple. Am not arguing if could have done a better job receiving, but ignoring the throws is incomplete analysis.

by TheCatch81 on Feb 17, 2012 3:33 PM PST via mobile up reply actions   1 recs

not arguing that Alex missed a couple easy passes or ignoring the throws

Frank didn’t do as good a job receiving as he has in years past and Smith is the same QB making the same throws he has in years past. Frank dropped more than his fair share this time around.

by reedkrase on Feb 17, 2012 4:46 PM PST up reply actions  

So you are arguing AS might not be a good passer

but it doesn’t help that Gore dropped a few more than normal. Fair enough. Alex Smith is still a bad passer.

by asmithisaverage on Feb 17, 2012 6:09 PM PST up reply actions  

not every post is about Alex Smith

there’s actually a whole team of players, this post was about Gore. I explained why I was disappointed with Gore this season, again, the subject of the post.

by reedkrase on Feb 18, 2012 1:45 PM PST up reply actions  

This has biased written all over it!!!

Gonna make the WR position relevant again? When?

by rlott#42 on Feb 17, 2012 11:05 PM PST up reply actions  

you have bias written all over you

and yet I still respond substantively. Scroll back up, take a look at what the post is supposed to be about, and then evaluate Gore’s play, not Smith’s.

by reedkrase on Feb 18, 2012 1:46 PM PST up reply actions  

Not at all, none of my tattoos have the word bias in them.

I did look, but if you mention Gore not being the same player and then say Alex is making the same throws avoids the fact that some of those drops were bad passes. Look back, I haven’t said anything about Smith.

Gonna make the WR position relevant again? When?

by rlott#42 on Feb 18, 2012 3:46 PM PST up reply actions  

both Alex and Gore could have done better

just like with the WR. Some of it’s on the receiver and some of it’s on the QB. It’s not just one or the other.

I'm not an Alex Smith appologist. I'm an Alex hater hater.

by Andrew9erfan on Feb 17, 2012 3:41 PM PST up reply actions  

but compared to years past

I think Gore disappointed me by not meeting the same level of receiving as he’s shown before.

by reedkrase on Feb 17, 2012 4:47 PM PST up reply actions  

’Considerably More" = “Three”

20 out of 31 receptions would be 64%. Pretty fair to say that if this isn’t small sample silliness, the three play difference over the course of the entire season wouldn’t have been pretty inconsequential anyway.

Once more, coming to you by proxy.

by howtheyscored on Feb 17, 2012 8:59 PM PST up reply actions  

He wasn’t involved in the passing game like he used to be to begin with, which is one of the reasons Smith’s Y/A numbers were higher than they’ve ever been. The point is that if he was a disappointment in the passing game, it was largely because the coaches kept him out of it except as a blocker. And he’s still a great blocker.

And I’ve been saying it for what feels like two years now, but he hasn’t had breakaway speed in a while. He’s been getting chased down from behind now for a while, and people keep acting like it’s a brand new thing. I can’t wait for 2012, when Frank Gore loses his breakaway speed all over again.

He had a milestone year and performed at a level that I wasn’t sure he could anymore without also missing five games for body reasons. It wasn’t an elite year. It wasn’t Old Frank. But he gave us one more valuable year to make sure we have the right guy on the roster to transition away from him with… and that’s actually kind of a big deal.

Once more, coming to you by proxy.

by howtheyscored on Feb 17, 2012 11:02 AM PST up reply actions  

We get 13 yards here

and 1.2 and 2.2 yards there. Not a useful 4 and 5 yards a carry.

Gimme 1 round!

by ItBurnzWhenIP on Feb 18, 2012 5:58 PM PST up reply actions  

Worse than that

We get 1, 3, 1, -2, 0, -1, 2, 12, 1, -2.

Every time Jamie Dukes says something enlightening and informative about football Jerry Rice and I mount up on our flying grizzly bears and claim pirate treasure from the moon. That's how often it happens.

by Ougadas on Feb 19, 2012 12:02 AM PST up reply actions  

Word. And that's not all Gore's fault.

But the fact that I’m absolutely delighted and surprised when he hits a massive cutback lane is a bit of a condemnation.

Gimme 1 round!

by ItBurnzWhenIP on Feb 19, 2012 4:30 AM PST up reply actions  

The loss of speed was worse than in the last couple years....

It might be the hip, or just another year of aging, but in the past he has been able to run away from defenders if he got in the open field; he did not do that this year on the few occassions he had. Sure he’s never been a real burner like CJ2K or others, but he has shown a clear drop in his open field speed in each passing year. Yes, you are right, it’s been gone for a while, but it was really bad in some situations where he should have been able to get away for a TD.

by 9thevolution on Feb 17, 2012 11:18 AM PST up reply actions  

in the past he has been able to run away from defenders if he got in the open field

And we may just be seeing different things, but this is exactly the skill that I haven’t seen in two-ish years. I don’t think he got into the open field as much this year (in part because Hunter was transitioned into a more open-field role), which made his breakaway stuff look worse because he just wasn’t out there as often. My feeling though really was Same Frank, Different Role.

Once more, coming to you by proxy.

by howtheyscored on Feb 17, 2012 11:44 AM PST up reply actions  

Frank has been getting run down all his career for the most part

I remember even back in 06 when he was killin it w/e he broke a big run he usually got walked by a db before he scored. The only season i can remember frank finishing long runs in 09 when we played the seahawks.

by blue42red30 on Feb 19, 2012 8:03 PM PST up reply actions  

8

But only because of wear and tear.

Struggled with nagging injuries again, but was Gore-ing defenses once again when healthy. Clearly lost a step and wasn’t able to get past 4th gear when he broke into the open running through defensive backfields. Got chased down from behind more than ever before in the past.

Dropped a few more passes than we’d all like this year, but he wasn’t targeted as much as in years past. Perhaps it was tough to get into rythym catching passes. He was “clutch” though in catching some passes on some critical drives in the playoffs.

"SHUT UP MEG!"
- Peter Griffin

by kailuakid9er on Feb 17, 2012 8:23 AM PST reply actions  

7

Frank is a gamer but those knees have been through too much over his career. He’s a beast for a 12 game season. More Kendal Hunter next year and I’d like to see the Niners use Gore in the passing game again (get him outside with some screen passes).

by throwthedamnball on Feb 17, 2012 8:29 AM PST reply actions  

Why

Gore struggled mightily as a reciever this year. His acceleration and concentration seemed off this year. Kinda got that Norris syndrome. I’d give him about a 7 and thats generous.

by Zintzun22niner on Feb 17, 2012 8:55 AM PST via mobile up reply actions  

Product of the offense?

Remember he was one of our leading receivers in previous season. It seems Gore, and the RB position as a whole, wasn’t targeted as much this year as they were in previous years. That may have had an effect on his game. Just like when a RB needs to get in a rythym when running. Maybe it’s the same in the receiving game?

"SHUT UP MEG!"
- Peter Griffin

by kailuakid9er on Feb 17, 2012 9:28 AM PST up reply actions  

Yeah. Not only was the halfback checkdown not a priority in Harbaugh’s offense, but Hunter was transitioned more and more into the passing game in place of Gore as it became clear that he had more of the open field skills that support the passing game. Neither one was truly involved, but for the first time in his career Gore really had to split duties as a receiver. And that’s not a bad thing. He still ran pretty well and he still blocks great. If we have a better option to catch passes, let Frank save those legs a little.

Once more, coming to you by proxy.

by howtheyscored on Feb 17, 2012 11:07 AM PST up reply actions  

Christians ask

“What would Jesus do?”
Niner fans ask, "What would Bill Walsh do? The answer: Get a new back who is a splendid pass receiver. Not a knock on Gore, who has been magnificent. Just a tough management decision.

by oldfoggy on Feb 17, 2012 8:38 AM PST reply actions  

Kendall Hunter really shined (shone?) as a receiver this last season.

HB is a position we’ll need to keep a close eye on in the next two years, but boy it sure is nice to have Kendall back there right now while we keep our eyes open elsewhere.

Once more, coming to you by proxy.

by howtheyscored on Feb 17, 2012 11:08 AM PST up reply actions  

In a WC offense

your primary back should get over 800 yards receiving – preferably more – and have a median of 8 ypc plus. He should catch 4 – 8 passes a game, which leads to many converted 3rd downs & red zone successes.

by oldfoggy on Feb 17, 2012 8:42 AM PST reply actions  

He was used in pass catching plays almost exactly as much as Gore. The last time a backup running back had almost as many receptions as Gore was… not since Gore was drafted.

Once more, coming to you by proxy.

by howtheyscored on Feb 17, 2012 11:09 AM PST up reply actions  

8

need a new Gore to share with old, hopefully draft would get us one

by Aazoba Yuzuki on Feb 17, 2012 9:18 AM PST reply actions  

He's clearly declining

I gave him a 7 because of him being awful catching the ball. Doesn’t have the break away speed anymore. Doesn’t break many tackles anymore. Losing that game sucks because he is only going downhill now. The beast Gore is gone. The new Gore is efficient and smart but lacks the physical play making ability that he used to have.

Call me cautiously optimistic....because I know what the Niners do to people who have real optimism (see the last 8 years).

by crumpedup15 on Feb 17, 2012 9:19 AM PST reply actions  

8

I agree with the pass catching comments, but since Sing would never think about throwing to a RB and Gore had hardly been targeted in over a year, plus the lack of pre-season, I can give him a pass on that. It’s not like he has always been bad at catching and he seemed to improve a bit later on.

As for wear-and-tear. Again, I agree. But I think that will actually be better this coming year. Last year, again without a pre-season, the offense was well behind and had to rely a LOT on a power run game initially. That took it’s toll on Frank. I suspect they should be able to be much more balanced in addition to utilizing Hunter more, which should allow Frank to be stronger and healthier throughout the season.

by ColoradoNiner on Feb 17, 2012 9:25 AM PST reply actions  

Hope you're right

because like the failed experiment by Coca-cola all those years ago, “Classic” Gore is far superior to “New” Gore. They need to bring “Classic” Gore back and have twice the success than they did before the change.

"SHUT UP MEG!"
- Peter Griffin

by kailuakid9er on Feb 17, 2012 9:32 AM PST up reply actions  

"Say 8, Say 8!!"

Bryan Regan anyone? Anyway, I give an 8 because 1200 yds made me pretty happy and was a bit unexpected for me. If not for the injuries and dropped passes he could have had a 10 type of year.

I love Frank, he’s one of my favorite Niners and definitely my favorite Niner running back of all time. I don’t think he has more than one year left in the tank though and I hope the FO drafts a new Frank this year. I’d love to see our future backfield of Hunter and New Frank take shape sooner rather than later.

by madmatt on Feb 17, 2012 10:20 AM PST reply actions  

8

would have been 9 were it not for the poor pass catching compared to his past years.

I’m curious why people think that he’s “clearly declining”. Sure, he’s slower than he was at his prime 3-4 seasons ago. But his past season was better than the previous one, and he came through without any major injuries. if used properly (smaller load, more effective blocking), Gore can easily have two more productive seasons (but maybe not 100% for the full season, very few backs do that in the league these days), barring any serious injuries. He’s past his prime, but I don’t see clear signs of decline when he’s playing healthy.

The biggest problem in the running game is not that Gore is past his prime, but that Niners don’t have an effective short-yardage back. This season finally confirmed to me that Dixon is strictly a special teams player. If Rathman cannot get Dixon to stop dancing in the backfield after two seasons, hes never going to.

by Mood_Indigo on Feb 17, 2012 10:44 AM PST reply actions  

God, Anthony Dixon is terrible.

Once more, coming to you by proxy.

by howtheyscored on Feb 17, 2012 11:10 AM PST up reply actions  

So ... what to do?

My biggest concern is that Frank has endured a lot of punishment in his career to date; at his age and state of repair one more significant hit could put him on the sidelines for more than just a few games. And the problem is? IMO Kendall Hunter is a great COPRB but isn’t built to take the beating that a every-down back must absorb week in and week out. That leaves Boobie. He has not proven to be overly effective even as a role-player on offense … his only significant contribution is on special teams.

So, IMO the solution for THIS YEAR is to seek a replacement for Dixon … either a second-tier free agent or a sixth- or seventh-round draft pick to spell Frank as needed for the non-COP situations. Why not a higher-round draft prospect? If you study the RB prospects coming out this year versus next year, there is no comparison … the 2013 draft for RBs is MUCH stronger. That would argue that we should wait and take a top-tier RB prospect in the first three rounds NEXT year. And, there are very few prospects in this draft that you want to select as your feature back of the future. Accordingly, I think that we should just apply a temporary fix this year, then “really do it” next year … selecting a guy who can take over in the middle of Frank’s last contract year.

by 49erFanSince1950 on Feb 17, 2012 11:06 AM PST reply actions  

Agree, the solution is clear, but the quality of implementation is quesitonable

I’m still not sold on Baalke and his scouting team’s ability to spot offensive talent with any consistency — they have been good on the defensive side. Kendall Hunter was the only player out of the ones that I wanted the Niners to pick who was actually picked by Baalke. So I’m not giving him too much credit for that pick :) Now that Harbaugh has input, I’m curious as to how they will fare in drafting a big back and a receiver in the later rounds

by Mood_Indigo on Feb 17, 2012 11:25 AM PST up reply actions  

Gave him a 6

Still has excellent vision and patience, but his wheels are about falling off and he is patient when he shouldn’t be.

I can’t remember how many times I was screaming at my stream — YOU CAN’T RUN IN PLACE WAITING FOR A HOLE ON A RUN BETWEEN THE DECORUM GUARDS!!!

You hit the hole hard and push it or you counter step at the handoff if you don’t like what you see and head off tackle quickly — there is nothing waiting for you behind the guards behind your own line but a 2 yard loss, and we got way too damn many of those.

Every time Jamie Dukes says something enlightening and informative about football Jerry Rice and I mount up on our flying grizzly bears and claim pirate treasure from the moon. That's how often it happens.

by Ougadas on Feb 17, 2012 11:27 AM PST reply actions  

I gave him a 9...

And let me say why: Expectations, Importance, and Milestones.

Frank Gore is not the running back that he once was. His ground game has been treading water if not slowly declining since 2006. He hasn’t had a true “next gear” since 2008. He hasn’t been healthy enough to play in more than 14 games since 2007. He was just coming off of one of his most discouraging seasons in 2010 (missed 5 games, lowest career almost everything).

So looking at 2011, my expectations were something like 13 games, 900 yards, a handful of touchdowns, and a clear message that the days of Frank Gore: Feature Back were either going to be over before the first game of 2012 or we were going to be in trouble as a team.

And none of that happened. Harbaugh managed his touches and Frank stayed healthier than I ever could have expected. He had one of his two best seasons on the ground since 2006. He wasn’t Old Frank, but he was good enough to be the keystone runner on a playoff team that was for good reason not lauded for its passing game. He made me think of Frank Gore being a featured member of this team for two or more additional seasons, and I had pretty much given up on that possibility last season.

And his being Not Old Frank But Still Good Frank was extremely important this year. Can you imagine the uncertainty that would have been this offense had Frank been anything less than our old reliable? Could Hunter stand up to a feature role as a rookie? How much Anthony Dixon would we have needed to see? And what about the impact on pass blocking? Frank Gore Being Frank Gore allowed Harbaugh to do all of the things that he did early in the year. It allowed him to bring the passing game along slowly. It allowed him to work Hunter into the offense as he kept getting better rather than all at once. Gore wasn’t great—he was even a disappointment in some corners of the game (declining as a receiver and a situational runner)—but he made so many things possible that would have been completely up in the air otherwise. And I think that was huge.

Lastly: The Milestones. This wasn’t, as I’ve said, a great year for Frank Gore’s game. It was a good year. It was a better than expected year. But not a 9 year by the numbers. Maybe not even quite an 8 year. But it was a great great great year for Frank Gore. The 1200 yards (a number he hadn’t hit since 2006), the franchise records, the playoff appearance and the playoff win. Frank Gore might have just had the most milestone-filled year of his life, and it’s the personal side of his season that turns a 7-borderline-8 into a clear 9 for me. This was a year filled with moments that Frank Gore will recount with a smile on his face for the rest of his life. That deserves a 9 for me. May we all have years like that.

Once more, coming to you by proxy.

by howtheyscored on Feb 17, 2012 11:38 AM PST reply actions   1 recs

so did I with a 9 because of alot of what you said...but more i think about it maybe should be a 8...

he broke down at the tale end of the season there!!

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by Kidd2Petrovic on Feb 17, 2012 11:40 AM PST up reply actions  

I mean, if I wasn’t thinking of Frank Gore the person and what this season and everything that came with it meant to him, I would have gone lower without blinking.

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by howtheyscored on Feb 17, 2012 11:45 AM PST up reply actions  

yea voting seems pretty reactionary for folks...

either you think of all the stuff he did up to this point (ie. franchise leading rusher) = higher vote
or
just this season, which people will talk about the drop passes, slow start or slowing down around week 10-14, which = lower vote

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by Kidd2Petrovic on Feb 17, 2012 12:01 PM PST up reply actions  

Gore needs to drop some weight

and get some of his speed back.

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by Kittles on Feb 17, 2012 5:13 PM PST reply actions  

4

Wasn’t reliable in any facet of the game except finally allowing carries to be split. Kendall Hunter who is a #2 was a better option more often than not. Couldn’t get tough yards when we needed them. Dropped balls left and right. The only reason he doesn’t get a 1 is that he had a few redeeming games in weeks 4 – 8 when we played the soft underbelly of run defenses (Cleveland excluded which was his best game all year)

Gimme 1 round!

by ItBurnzWhenIP on Feb 17, 2012 9:38 PM PST reply actions  

fail, 4?

Gtfohwtbs

Gonna make the WR position relevant again? When?

by rlott#42 on Feb 17, 2012 11:09 PM PST up reply actions  

8.5

Pass pro
Great yards behind average line play and obvious passing formations.
Got yardage when there was nothing there, and shows he has better vision than hunter.

Gonna make the WR position relevant again? When?

by rlott#42 on Feb 17, 2012 11:11 PM PST reply actions  

What kills me is that the same people backing Alex with the harbaugh knows what he’s doing fail to realize Hunter wasn’t ready for more duties. If it was better to have hunter in, he would’ve been in. Furthermore he cannot be a full time back without improving his vision by leaps and bounds.

Gonna make the WR position relevant again? When?

by rlott#42 on Feb 17, 2012 11:13 PM PST reply actions  

I think it’s understated how important it was to have Gore’s stability during the first several games of offensive transition (easing Smith into the role, learning more about Hunter, working through a few key injuries). He made one thing easy for the coaches at a time when a lot of things were up in the air.

Once more, coming to you by proxy.

by howtheyscored on Feb 18, 2012 10:58 AM PST up reply actions  

I can see how you would think that and it is valid reasoning

But I’ve always believed that leaning on strengths just keep you from getting better where you are weak. We were very close to starting the season 0-3 where everyone could sell out against the run.

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by Ougadas on Feb 19, 2012 12:06 AM PST up reply actions  

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