Official NN draft thread
by manraj7 on Feb 18, 2012 7:23 PM PST
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PrintHello guys welcome to the third edition of the NN draft thread. In this thread you rec this post I mean I talk about the draft we talk about the draft. If you are wondering why I am doing these official draft threads its because Fooch has given me the opportunity to write these fanposts. Fooch also said to rec this post and we don't like to disappoint Fooch now do we?
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Trent Richardson
What to say about Richardson? I can't say that I've been watching nfl prospects for 10+ years but in the limited time I have been watching Richardson has been the best RB prospect I have seen. The guy is the whole package. Can run with power with speed anc can catch the ball out of the backfield.
Lamar Miller
When watching Miller run its easy to see that he has decent speed but there is more to him than just his speed. He has decent power and can run through tackles if need be but he also has the agility to elude tackles. Of course all of this is for naught if he can't find the hole. Luckily for him he has great vision and can find a hole even when his initial hole isn't there.
Chris Polk
I am a huge fan of Polk. He is fast enough to not be caught from behind and strong enough to break through tackles. Has good hands which I heard is valuable for a team that throws it to their RB a lot. I seem him as a RB who can be a Frank Gore to a team.
David Wilson
Look for Wilson to kill it at the combine. Wilson seems to be the faster version of Kendall Hunter. Someone who doesn't have a lot of power and can't be a full time back. I wouldn't expect the Niners to draft Wilson just based on the fact that we already have him in Hunter.
Doug Martin
One of my favorite prospects in the draft. He may not be the biggest or fastest but he runs really well. He was the main back on the Boise State team. He is the type of guy who isn't the best at one thing but does everything well. He can become a featured back but I don't expect him to be one of the top RBs in the league.
Bernard Pierce
Pierce is a strong strong runner. He seems to be a better version of Anthony Dixon. He does not dance and finishes strong every play. He isn't very fast so he will be limited when it will comes to different types of running plays but will surely help when it comes to 3rd/4th and 1.
LaMicheal James
Speed on speed on speed. James has a lot of speed. He isn't that big so I don't know how he will handle the beatings he will take in the NFL. He won't be a full time player but if used in a RBBC he could be deadly.
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I did a LMD at MTD and this is the results
2. Rueben Randle
3. Senio Kelemete
3. Trumaine Johnson
3. Adrian Hamilton
4. Bernard Pierce
5. Logan Harrell (wasn’t my pick)
6. William Vlachos
7. Kellen Moore
Also for the second one I figured out how to make a war room so I will tell you guys when there is one.
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Thanks
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by manraj7 on Feb 18, 2012 7:55 PM PST via iPhone app up reply actions
Kellen Moore
sigh…
"Our deepest fear is not that we are inadequate. Our deepest fear is that we are powerful beyond measure. It is our light, not our darkness that most frightens us"
It was the 7th round
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by manraj7 on Feb 18, 2012 8:46 PM PST via iPhone app up reply actions
I'd rather have Tolzien. Seriously.
I’d much rather have Josh Johnson.
We still have Harbaugh. So there's hope.
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Meh
"Our deepest fear is not that we are inadequate. Our deepest fear is that we are powerful beyond measure. It is our light, not our darkness that most frightens us"
by FearTheTree on Feb 18, 2012 10:15 PM PST up reply actions
I think Harbaugh could work with him.
We could later trade him to the Pats for multiple 2nds
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on Feb 19, 2012 4:33 AM PST up reply actions
Why the patriots?
and i think there is a lot of things that we can do with Moore. At the very worst he becomes the best back up QB in the NFL.
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Because he needs a spectacular blocking line.
He’s basically Tom Brady. Non-functional under the wrong circumstances but he’s an incredibly accurate passer given time
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on Feb 19, 2012 5:23 PM PST up reply actions
Weaker smarter more accurate Brady
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by manraj7 on Feb 20, 2012 7:39 PM PST via iPhone app up reply actions
Pretty much.
Though Tom scored a 33 on his Wonderlic so he’s not dumb. We’ll have to see how Kellen fairs with that.
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on Feb 20, 2012 10:10 PM PST up reply actions
I think if Moore doesn't go into playing he could coach
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Draft him as depth behind Harbaugh
"Our deepest fear is not that we are inadequate. Our deepest fear is that we are powerful beyond measure. It is our light, not our darkness that most frightens us"
yup
You saw what happened to Peyton coaches can go down with injuries too.
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Excellent
We should do this for all our coaches in case they get plucked away.
"Our deepest fear is not that we are inadequate. Our deepest fear is that we are powerful beyond measure. It is our light, not our darkness that most frightens us"
by FearTheTree on Feb 21, 2012 11:00 PM PST up reply actions
backup DB coach?
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I'd be OK with the Winningest QB in FBS history
but do you really think he’d last until the 7th? Don’t you think someone (like New Orleans) might take a flier on “Mini-Brees”?
“Mini-Brees.” I like that. I’ll have to trademark it. I can see it now, ’And I shall call him Mini-Me Mini-Brees."
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by kailuakid9er on Feb 18, 2012 10:55 PM PST up reply actions
They hate Moore on MTD
Moore bashing is their past time
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by manraj7 on Feb 18, 2012 11:56 PM PST via iPhone app up reply actions
I think Moore will be a great quarterback
Whenever he gets through puberty.
Every time Jamie Dukes says something enlightening and informative about football Jerry Rice and I mount up on our flying grizzly bears and claim pirate treasure from the moon. That's how often it happens.
lol
you would fit in nicely
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I gave him a 5th round grade
but I know how much MTD hates him so I waited till the 7th
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Are you really surprised about about the Kellen Moore pick?
You know that manraj has a serious man-crush on Moore.
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by kailuakid9er on Feb 18, 2012 10:51 PM PST up reply actions
So you traded down out of the 1st?
I literally had never heard of Senio Kelemete. I guess that’s what we’re looking at at this point. I love the fact that the Niners played so well this year, but it sucks drafting so late.
We still have Harbaugh. So there's hope.
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Ya I traded down I got the player I was gonna grab anyways
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by manraj7 on Feb 19, 2012 12:06 AM PST via iPhone app up reply actions
Tried following what you were doing @ MTD
But my browser was being “Rhe-tard”-ed.
Good mock!
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by kailuakid9er on Feb 18, 2012 10:50 PM PST up reply actions
Join the next one
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When is it?
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by kailuakid9er on Feb 19, 2012 11:36 AM PST up reply actions
I dunno when but I will be making a war room
the awesome people at Turf Show Times allowed me to view theirs this round and its pretty awesome.
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COOL
You should add a “virtual” web-cam for those who want a peek at the Big Board. Just for $#!%s and giggles! Ha-ha
I’ll keep an eye out at MTD for when they announce it.
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by kailuakid9er on Feb 19, 2012 12:59 PM PST up reply actions
haha
I don’t think I got a webcame and my big board is on my phone. But you should join the chat
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Someone Help Me Out
I want to draft the position, some else reply to my comment with the players, any takers?
Let’s Try:
Round 1 – CB (Carlos Rogers departs)
Round 2 – WR (Josh Morgan resigns)
Round 3 – OG (Chilo Rachal departs, Adam Snyder resigns)
Round 4 – Wild Card Pick (you choose, I can’t decide)
Round 5 – NT/DT
Round 6 – DE/OLB (Ahmad Brooks resigns)
Round 7 – S (Dashon Goldson resigns *long term)
by Andrew Davidson on Feb 18, 2012 9:30 PM PST reply actions
one more thing
Round 6 – DE/OLB (Ahmad Brooks resigns, Blake Costanzo resigns, T. Gooden departs)
by Andrew Davidson on Feb 18, 2012 9:32 PM PST up reply actions
I don't think you can do that
Just go with who you think would benefit the team more.
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I'm not educated enough on the prospects
Pete Konz would be gone in the first round, and that’s where my knowledge ends. I watched literally no college football during the regular season (and bowl season does not count). Was hoping someone would want to fill in the players for fun.
by Andrew Davidson on Feb 19, 2012 2:57 AM PST up reply actions
I'll try to give it a shot
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by manraj7 on Feb 20, 2012 7:40 PM PST via iPhone app up reply actions
Updated
Round 1 – CB Stephen Gilmore SC
Round 2 – WR Marvin Jones CAL
Round 3 – OG Kevin Zeitler WIS
Round 4 – OLB Brandon Lindsey PITT
Round 5 – DT/NT Nicolas Jean-Baptiste BAY
Round 6 – S D’Anton Lynn PSU
Round 7 – OL Ryan Miller COL
This draft assumes Alex Smith, Dashon Goldson, Josh Morgan, Ted Ginn, Adam Snyder and Blake Costanzo resign. Carlos Rogers, Ahmad Brooks, Chilo Rachal, Tavares Gooden, and Larry Grant all depart. The team proceeds to add UDFA at RB, LB and WR.
by Andrew Davidson on Feb 22, 2012 12:13 PM PST up reply actions
This is pretty solid...
I’d be happy with such a haul.
by 9thevolution on Feb 22, 2012 12:56 PM PST up reply actions
I basically just threw a dart
at the guys ranked in the areas of the 49ers selections, according to the Draft Tek Big Board. Not sure how great these guys will transition to the NFL level, but on paper they look the part. Also, I picked Nicolas Jean-Baptiste because it would be cool to have both Ricky Jean Francois and Nicolas Jean-Baptiste rotate on the DL together. I’m thinking something along the lines of “Mean Jeans” moniker.
by Andrew Davidson on Feb 22, 2012 2:14 PM PST up reply actions
Only headscratcher is Lynn...
Heard he got abused at the Senior Bowl. But in the 6th round, what can you hope for. And the fact that you’re listing him as a S as opposed to a CB makes the selection a bit less “meh.”
by 9thevolution on Feb 23, 2012 12:58 PM PST up reply actions
Not a Lindsey fan. Your top 3 are good, though.
We still have Harbaugh. So there's hope.
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pick another OLB
I’ll be glad to replace Lindsey in that mock.
by Andrew Davidson on Feb 22, 2012 8:37 PM PST up reply actions
Adrian Hamilton? Maybe Dont'e Paige-Moss as a later-round guy?
We still have Harbaugh. So there's hope.
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I'm wondering if Hamilton will be around in the 4th round
The highlight real on him is pretty ridiculous. Despite being against lesser competition, he displays the necessary skills to be a pass rusher; even as a rookie contributing minimally.
by 9thevolution on Feb 23, 2012 1:00 PM PST up reply actions
Depends on his combine
If he puts up NFL caliber numbers he’ll go 2-3. If he puts up 1st round caliber numbers who knows. Maybe as high as before us.
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on Feb 23, 2012 5:12 PM PST up reply actions
I would bet that someone jumps up to get him if he's still there early 3rd...
All depends on combine, but if he puts up some good numbers, someone will be salivating if he’s still there at 65-70; hopefully it’s us.
Which by the way, whose Pro Day would Hamilton attend anyway? Can’t imagine Prairie View has their own.
by 9thevolution on Feb 24, 2012 7:26 AM PST up reply actions
Be cautious
About highlight reels against substandard competition. He’s beating these tackles like a drum because he’s got too much speed for them to handle. So just like our own Anthony Davis — they sell out hard to the outside and he just steps or rolls inside and it’s all over. When they don’t he just runs right around them without being touched.
He does have some nice moves, he’s got a decent pad level, he’s definitely a kid that’s worth some time scouting to see what he has to work with. But beating up on those tackles doesn’t tell you much more than that.
Every time Jamie Dukes says something enlightening and informative about football Jerry Rice and I mount up on our flying grizzly bears and claim pirate treasure from the moon. That's how often it happens.
His substandard competition is why he is a mid round pick.
Because if he put up those stats at a school in the Pac-12 or SEC he wouldn’t be there at 10.
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by manraj7 on Feb 24, 2012 8:47 AM PST via iPhone app up reply actions
I didn't even look at his stats
BCS talent playing in the SWAC should dominate. Still doesn’t say very much about how he stacks up against his fellow prospects. Maybe he’s the 10th best pass rusher. Maybe he’s the 40th. Maybe he’s in the top 5 or maybe he shouldn’t even have a draftable grade. We don’t know because he never faced a tackle that was anywhere close to his level of athleticism.
It’s very dangerous drafting stat-lines and highlight reels.
Every time Jamie Dukes says something enlightening and informative about football Jerry Rice and I mount up on our flying grizzly bears and claim pirate treasure from the moon. That's how often it happens.
20 sacks dominate
That’s still pretty fabulous. That’s the type of dominating JPP and Robert Mathis did against lower level competition.
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on Feb 24, 2012 6:22 PM PST up reply actions
University of South Florida is a D1 school, isn't it?
We still have Harbaugh. So there's hope.
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he played at a CC
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For 1 above average but not spectacular season
A lot of his draft positioning was based on 2 ultra-dominant Community College seasons
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on Feb 25, 2012 12:55 PM PST up reply actions
Apparently his tape was great at USF.
Great effort and amazing athleticism.
We still have Harbaugh. So there's hope.
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Tape was great but he was still raw
And people still said he was a 1 year wonder and going to bust. For those that looked at how he dominated JC you knew he wasn’t just a 1 year wonder.
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on Feb 29, 2012 6:46 PM PST up reply actions
I dunno about you.
I see it. The guy is a gifted pass rusher annihilating lower level competition and has the stuff to embarrass higher level guys as well.
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on Feb 24, 2012 6:23 PM PST up reply actions
Maybe it comes from watching hockey prospects.
You see international guys that aren’t competing against elite competition but you can just tell they are special anyways. I’d say Hamilton has the talent to be a 1st rounder.
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on Feb 24, 2012 6:25 PM PST up reply actions
He may have the talent but I wouldn't draft him in the first
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Depending on his combine you never know. If he goes VD or Julio Jones on the numbers
He’ll catapult up. Rightfully so. Victor Cruz played against poor competition too.
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on Feb 24, 2012 9:02 PM PST up reply actions
Won't go up to the 1st
but I do see him doing well
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Paige-Moss is really intriguing to me.
He suffered a torn ACL in this year’s Bowl game, so he’ll be out the year, but he’d be a great guy to bring in late like the Cardinals did with O’Brien Schofield. DPM is dripping with upside.
We still have Harbaugh. So there's hope.
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let's assume
DPM is UDFA’d by the 49ers (I know, I just verbed an acronym) or worst case scenario, picked up in the 7th round. I would still prefer the 49ers to choose an OLB that can contribute this season (unless of course they sign him via FA). If Aldon Smith is going to get the bulk of snaps, it’d be nice to have a rookie contributing on third downs and only have to give up a 4th rounder to do so. I’m not saying the team can find 14 sacks in the fourth round, but maybe 5 to 7 (hopeful forecast, but I can be hopeful).
by Andrew Davidson on Feb 22, 2012 9:01 PM PST up reply actions
Highly unlikely that DPM slips through.
I mean, the guy has character and injury issues, but somebody will have watched tape from 2010 on Coples and think, geez, that DPM guy looks great. Check the spring evaluation that NFP links.
We still have Harbaugh. So there's hope.
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if he's to be picked before the 7th or the UDFA
then I’d rather the team go guy who can contribute ASAP, rather than a guy that strictly just learns for an entire season, and not get game experience. Then again, if the 49ers sign a complementary Pass Rusher, I wouldn’t care so much to see a higher pick spent on potential like this (but still not in the fourth).
by Andrew Davidson on Feb 22, 2012 9:21 PM PST up reply actions
Please let this happen
Chris Polk
I am a huge fan of Polk. He is fast enough to not be caught from behind and strong enough to break through tackles. Has good hands which I heard is valuable for a team that throws it to their RB a lot. I seem him as a RB who can be a Frank Gore to a team.
I LOVE Hunter, but if we get Plok the RB position can get upgraded I’m all for it!!!
Raja Bell at the scorer's table: "We consistently do dumb s---."
I don't think they will compete
Polk seems to be more of a featured back and Hunter is just a spell
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Running Backs
Trent RIchardson – Uber-talented. What will he have in common with these names: Cadillac Williams, Darren McFadden, Felix Jones, Beenie Wells, Knowshon Moreno, Mark Ingram and Adrian Peterson? Injured 1st round running backs
Lamar Miler – .Hurricane RB? Worked well for us before. Why not go to the well again?
Chris Polk - Had a great season, but I thought I read that he had a poor showing at the Senior Bowl.
David Wilson – Kendall Hunter 2.0? Don’t need to “upgrade” from 1.0.
Doug Martin – One of my favorite RB prospects as well. May not be a top RB like Gore has been, but I’d be fine if he gave us something like Garrison Hearst or Charlie Garner.
Bernard Pierce – Don’t know much about him, but like his size.
LaMichael James – Yeah, he’s fast, but can’ he take a NFL-sized beating? I don’t think so. I think he could be effective running to the edges of opposing defenses as well as screen passes.
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If he injures his ankles maybe
Dude is built and runs with a very low center of gravity and some shiftyness. I don’t expect to see him hurting his knees.
Aside from that Richardson is the best prospect since AP. (At least until Marcus Lattimore next year)
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on Feb 19, 2012 4:37 AM PST up reply actions
If you apply the right force to the right area you can hurt anyone
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by manraj7 on Feb 19, 2012 10:35 AM PST via iPhone app up reply actions
Richardson's hurt his knees before
He’s had a partially torn MCL last year as well as a torn abdominal muscle
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by kailuakid9er on Feb 19, 2012 11:54 AM PST up reply actions
Partially torn MCL ought to tell you how hard it is to injure him
Torn MCL’s often come packaged with torn ACLs from direct blows to the outside of the knee. You just made my case for me in some ways.
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on Feb 19, 2012 5:28 PM PST up reply actions
Muscle tears are certainly possible for him though
When you’re as strong as that dude is you can injure yourself. I’d wager PfP he’s the strongest guy in college football.
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on Feb 19, 2012 5:45 PM PST up reply actions
We should draft Coby Fleener and move him to half back.
He’s really big and will be hard to tackle, plus he’ll be a mismatch because of his size to speed ratio.
We should really consider moving up in the first to make this happen1
Now......
We’re talkin, he knows Harbaugh’s system so picking up the blitz will be easy. Sign the man…!!
Gonna make the WR position relevant again? When?
Im being sarcastic, thats is a ridiculous idea. More ridiculous than taking him roumd 1.
He isn’t even the best TE prospect.
Gonna make the WR position relevant again? When?
He was being sarcastic too.
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on Feb 19, 2012 5:45 PM PST up reply actions
Your being sarcastic about that...
wait what
"Our deepest fear is not that we are inadequate. Our deepest fear is that we are powerful beyond measure. It is our light, not our darkness that most frightens us"
He's tall, not big
That’s the exact opposite you want in a running back — center of gravity is way too high and he has zero burst. Great burst of creativity just lacking a little bit in reality.
Every time Jamie Dukes says something enlightening and informative about football Jerry Rice and I mount up on our flying grizzly bears and claim pirate treasure from the moon. That's how often it happens.
You gotta be a little bit further out there
for the parody to register. =P Less sane things have been recommended here with a straight face.
Yep, big whoosh.
Every time Jamie Dukes says something enlightening and informative about football Jerry Rice and I mount up on our flying grizzly bears and claim pirate treasure from the moon. That's how often it happens.
I got it.
I’d have taken it serious if HH had suggested it.
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on Feb 19, 2012 5:46 PM PST up reply actions
And it serves me right for not looking closer at the author. =P
Every time Jamie Dukes says something enlightening and informative about football Jerry Rice and I mount up on our flying grizzly bears and claim pirate treasure from the moon. That's how often it happens.
Where do you guys think Nick Toon will be drafted?
I think he seems like a good fit with the 49ers team philosophy. Physical dude, blocks hard, etc.
We don't need 8 in the box. We have 52 in the box.
by these3words on Feb 19, 2012 4:41 AM PST reply actions 1 recs
Somewhere between 50 and 70 IMO
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on Feb 19, 2012 5:47 PM PST up reply actions
I think he'll go late,
but i have no idea why. Toon’s is amazing. i would be thrilled if they got him. Does anybody know when Broyles is sposed to go? I dont see him on any big boards and im utterly confused.
Injury concerns mostly
"Our deepest fear is not that we are inadequate. Our deepest fear is that we are powerful beyond measure. It is our light, not our darkness that most frightens us"
But you think about guys like AP
who was injured for almost his entire final year, look how he turned out.
If you're referring to Toon...
He’s been injured every year of his college career. He’s unlikely to last past one contract in the NFL.
by 9thevolution on Feb 28, 2012 7:18 AM PST up reply actions
Don't think foot injuries are generally related to contact
More to having a bad foot.
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on Feb 28, 2012 4:00 PM PST up reply actions
People here will make you believe that foot injuries are no big thing
and that he is probably faking it.
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I was referring to Broyles.
I didnt know toon had injury issues, but our offense relies on slow drives, not necessarily quick scores (besides the playoffs) and toon wouldnt be required or even used as an everydown wr. Broyles may because i think hes a little more developed.
Manraj7
Great job on the draft, I watched the whole thing. I was the one who emailed you also. Peter Konz had almost fallen to our pick in the first and then was taken by the packers. So Manraj7 traded back to get good value getting a 2nd and 3rd round pick giving up a 1 and 4. He then traded again for some additional picks in the 3rd. My favorite picks were the Trumaine Johnson pick and Bernard Pierce, there was also a small window to try and get Nick Toon who I am very high on.
Bernard Pierce has great athleticism when I watch his tapes and I really feel like he can be a great runner, he doesn’t get low and drive a pile for that extra yard or two but he can be elusive and hard to bring down with arm tackles. He runs very verticle always looking for the next guy he has to beat.
One thing to note also, was the huge run on WR in the 4th round. It was actually crazy to see so many wide recievers slipping just because there were so many and then it seemed like someone hit the button and every jumped all taking a WR.
Manraj7, great job hope to join you in the war room for the next draft. I can’t wait to watch the combine and see what some of these WR can do.
In the real world we should take Konz if he falls to 24.
There are 3 teams that will be after him hardcore and possibly the Broncos if they are smart.
Lions – Need a center cause theirs is old
Packers – Scott Wells is a coveted FA
Texans – Chris Myers is a coveted FA
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on Feb 19, 2012 5:49 PM PST up reply actions
I was thinking about it
But I thought that knowing who was drafting that he would make it to 30 I was wrong.
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by manraj7 on Feb 20, 2012 7:41 PM PST via iPhone app up reply actions
If Konz is at 24 there will be a good ebough guard to keep the picks needed. Then we can get needed kr/pr help.
Gonna make the WR position relevant again? When?
I just feel Konz is that much better than anybody else.
He’s a grade A guard and a grade AAA center.
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on Feb 20, 2012 10:12 PM PST up reply actions
Right, Im not arguing that at all. What if the FO is already thinking of moving Davis inside?
Then maybe grab Smith from the Rams, Alemechi from ISU, or another tackle. I think the team needs all of its picks because of $$$$$$$
Gonna make the WR position relevant again? When?
Wouldn't less picks means we spend less money?
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no, not if those picks keep you from resigning camp fodder.
Gonna make the WR position relevant again? When?
Who's the better tackle though Smith or Davis? lol
Which one do you move to guard?
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on Feb 21, 2012 4:40 AM PST up reply actions
Jason Smith? (Not exactly draft-related, but still pertinent)
Per Jason LaCanfora…
On the offensive line, St. Louis’ Jason Smith won’t be back at his current base salary ($10 million), according to a league source, and is a candidate to be cut.
If Smith does get cut, do you think the 49ers would look at him as a candidate to play Guard? If he sits on the market a while, the team might be able to snap him up for cheap. It’d be nice to avoid having to draft an offensive lineman if we can—leaves more picks for other positions…
We still have Harbaugh. So there's hope.
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Question for the crowd on guards
Let’s say you could get one who is around 6’5" 320 and went all of 2011 without giving up a sack despite his QB throwing the ball almost 550 times. Gives up a pressure about once every 50 drop backs.
But you have to give up a 3rd rounder for him and will have to pay him what Snyder is probably going to ask for.
Pull the trigger?
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Yes
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by manraj7 on Feb 21, 2012 8:46 AM PST via iPhone app up reply actions
Chad Rinehart
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Is he a RFA?
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Yeah.
Been looking around the internet for info in this guy…apparently he was a backup at the beginning of 2011.
Then again, if you keep that third round pick, you aren’t exactly spending it on a player who’s had even one good year in the NFL.
We don't need 8 in the box. We have 52 in the box.
by these3words on Feb 21, 2012 10:36 AM PST up reply actions
He is
He was a backup last year and got called up from the PS to play due to a season ending injury to Kraig Urbik.
Their LT Demetrius Bell and G Kraig Urbik (also RFA) are starters that Buffalo will be wanting to bring back and unless they are prepared to offer a higher tender (and therefore salary) to Rinehart than his original 3rd round slot, we might be able to make a steal of a guy who is just the odd man out of 3 young talented linemen who are unfortunate enough to be playing in Buffalo.
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Oh I think it will be worth it
I mean we need to get a G anyways and using a 3rd rounder on a guy who showed he can play would be worth giving up a pick.
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This
Do this please, Baalke. Or the Pats will.
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I don't see the Pats doing it they already have their Gs
but ya I think its worth looking into the option. If he asks for too much than I don’t think we need to go after him.
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One of their G/C sucks though
meh.
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Their RG?
because their LG is logan Mankins
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RG/C
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Waters is talking about retirement... So even though he outplayed Mankins in the regular season he might be done.
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on Feb 21, 2012 9:02 PM PST up reply actions
Waters is their RG right?
I don’t follow the Pats much…
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yah
Matt Light LT Mankins
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on Feb 21, 2012 9:12 PM PST up reply actions
I would love to see Brady with his O-Line falling apart...
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They call that the Brady Hunch(back)
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by FearTheTree on Feb 21, 2012 10:04 PM PST up reply actions
lol
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I heard Matt Light was considering retirement too.
This could get interesting.
We don't need 8 in the box. We have 52 in the box.
by these3words on Feb 22, 2012 12:09 PM PST up reply actions
Light is damn good. I hope this happens. Then we'll see how good NE's line coach is :)
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on Feb 22, 2012 3:50 PM PST up reply actions
How does he work in our scheme?
Might be worth bringing in just to see if he’s a better tackle than Anthony Davis.
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on Feb 21, 2012 9:00 PM PST up reply actions
Then we should try out Iupati and Goodwin...
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Honestly I haven't seen as much game time on him
As our guards, but what little I have seen he’s opened up some pretty nice holes. I’d have to see how well he works in space to be completely sold but he’s a guy that deserves some due diligence from our scouts.
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Question on signing bonus
Why does VD’s signing bonus is spread across all of the years while Patrick Willis’ signing bonus is only in 2012?
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Does anyone know when we will get the new salary cap #s by?
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Actually can anyone explain Willis' contract?
Because according to the CBA the SB has to be distributed over the years but its not for Willis. If you do it for Willis we will get like 12m more.
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signed before the new cba, and it can be up one year, down the next.
Gonna make the WR position relevant again? When?
Oh so because it was made in the old CBA we could do anything.
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by manraj7 on Feb 21, 2012 11:37 PM PST via iPhone app up reply actions
Thought it had more to do with it being a deal done without the CBA active...
We could only give him a 10% increase to base salary annually IIRC. Because of that Marathe worked out some ridiculous scheme to find the loophole into how to sign your players in the uncapped year. Basically, we had to give him all guaranteed money, but I don’t know how the cap figures all worked out.
Realistically, we should be happy that after this he will be cheap according to his cap figure.
by 9thevolution on Feb 22, 2012 6:59 AM PST up reply actions
wouldn't it be possible to restructure the contract so it's spread out over every year of the contract?
If I’m not mistaken the steelers and jets just did this to get more cap room
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by manraj7 on Feb 25, 2012 9:44 PM PST via iPhone app up reply actions
As far as I know on Willis it's not a signing bonus
His extra money is due to performance escalators from last year that were considered “Not Likely to Be Earned” which means they did not count against the cap in his original contract, but since they were earned last year they hit our cap this year.
I could be completely wrong there, but that’s what I have in my head about why he counts 17 mill against us this year.
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Lesson:
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We don't need 8 in the box. We have 52 in the box.
by these3words on Feb 22, 2012 12:12 PM PST up reply actions 4 recs
cap hit
The 49ers re-worked his deal last fall I believe. I was reading somewhere that they knew they’d have a ton of cap space so they set it up so much of the cap hit is this year and his cap hit in future years decreases.
by David Fucillo on Feb 22, 2012 12:30 PM PST up reply actions
Yup the cap hit for him next year is 3m
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by manraj7 on Feb 22, 2012 1:43 PM PST via iPhone app up reply actions
now that's a steal
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http://www.ninercaphell.com/player/70-Willis-Patrick.html
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Jason La Canfora said on NFL TA that 49ers looking to resign Alex to 6 yr, 60-million
with many escape clauses if he busts. Also said Goldson will get tagged and that we’ll pick up a “top WR”.
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6 years 60 million
6 YEARS!!!!!
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Can't stop the Ironman streak
Alex will start an epic consecutive start streak for 13 years and NN will never know a time without him. Because by then the internet will be illegal and we can breath through gills.
by mcwagner on Feb 21, 2012 5:41 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
6 years is crazy though
I wonder how they are going to make it though.
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I mean how are we going to spread the signing bonus
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Does anyone else think that we may have a Viking like set back?
I mean when Farve came back the Vikings were really good then the next year not so much. Does anyone else think that Smith might have that type of setback?
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No..
the situations are so drastically different, I have no idea why you bring this up
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I saw Farve on NFL network and my mind kind of went there
and why are the situations different?
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You serious?
40+ year old QB who is clearly over the hill and busier sending dick pics than playing on a team deprived of talent and hit with injuries and horseshit coaching, not to mention one that hasn’t drafted well AT ALL and one who is seriously declining in terms of defensive talent and depth.
VS
27 year old QB backed up by a dude groomed to take over for him in some time coached by freaking Harbaugh, with the best defense in NFL, performing severely above expectations in a lockout year (his first year in an offense). Not to mention he actually connects with his teammates as opposed to HWMNBN.
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Oh ya thats true
ok I feel better
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A Vikings-like setback does worry me, yes.
Not because of a Favre-like situation at QB: I expect Alex to get better.
I’m more worried about it for 3 different reasons:
1) The 49ers won’t be able to put together the same ridiculous turnover ratio that they had next year.
2) The level of competition will rise because we won the division (so, so worth it)
3) The 49ers lost very few major players to significant injury—other than at the WR position. They had 3 OLBs on the roster, and only 1 of them missed only part of a game. Our starting CBs played every game. Willis was out what, 3 games? Other than McDonald, who from the DL missed games? That’ll be difficult to replicate in 2012.
We still have Harbaugh. So there's hope.
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WHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO'S GOT IT BETTER THAN ALEX???
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOBODAY!!!!!!
Now… Where’s Hungry Hunter?
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on Feb 21, 2012 9:03 PM PST up reply actions
This is an even more awesome contract than I thought for the man.
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on Feb 21, 2012 9:07 PM PST up reply actions
I mean I guess it makes sense
the average per year thing but the 6 years is what surprised me.
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Absolutely boneheaded deal, unless the niners can get out of it.
Gonna make the WR position relevant again? When?
Lots of escape clauses
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by FearTheTree on Feb 21, 2012 10:05 PM PST up reply actions
the contract
Did he say the 49ers were looking at 6/60 or Alex was looking for that?
by David Fucillo on Feb 21, 2012 10:13 PM PST up reply actions
If its low guaranteed and backloaded then the deal is fine.
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because in the NFL there is no such thing as a contract that can't be canceled.
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which makes hardly any sense to me
We will sign you to a million year contract, but we can dump you whenever we want.
It's all about what you can negotiate
You can negotiate a contract as guaranteed for skill or injury, but usually not both. But if you do you usually get less. Most don’t want less.
Players want to get paid more than they are worth and owners want to pay less than a player is worth. Players have incentive to make more money, owners have the incentive of fielding the best possible roster with limited resources.
The owners do have the advantage — but that is the golden rule of life. Those with the gold make the rules.
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if there's a lot of escape clauses
I’ll assume that it’s backloaded
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Geez...
6 years is too much. I would give him 4 tops and make him prove he deserves an extension beyond that.
by 9thevolution on Feb 22, 2012 7:13 AM PST up reply actions
I'd give him 16 and lock him up for life.
16 years 320 million
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on Feb 22, 2012 3:52 PM PST up reply actions
You think he's got 16 left in him?
Better call Baalke and tell him to fix the OL if he wants to make that deal.
by 9thevolution on Feb 23, 2012 1:03 PM PST up reply actions
Get the line set. He'd only be 43 by the end of the deal.
Maybe he’d wanna retire around 41 anyways and we could void the last 2 seasons which would be $40M per year. Then it would be 14 at 240M and considering the hyper-inflation were bound to incur sometime in the next 5-10 years it will be a steal!
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on Feb 23, 2012 5:17 PM PST up reply actions
Worth it to cut Gore after drafting a RB early in the draft?
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NO
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Why not
It will be cheaper and he will be more athletic.
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by manraj7 on Feb 22, 2012 6:00 PM PST via iPhone app up reply actions
And he may be just as good.
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by manraj7 on Feb 22, 2012 6:03 PM PST via iPhone app up reply actions
"may" is the magic word
with our offense so reliant on the run game, I think this will backfire badly. Lets see how sharing the load helps him. Nothing wrong with drafting someone if you like them. My opinion: Run Gore and develop Hunter in a combo backfield. Hunter will be hitting his stride in year three. Move on from Dixon and find a player that can get a yard when needed.
Bernard Pierce is the RB we wish Dixon was
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but Gore is getting old and his contract can easily be canceled
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I remember when you were all sweet and innocent. “Niners forever!!!” Now you are a shrewd businessman. “Cut him and save the money. He’s too old and will only break his hip”. I miss the young Manraj7 that believed in miracles.
I hate taking risks at such an important position on our offense. He is still a fantastic player and one of the best at his position.
Its a phase I go through when I start talking about contracts
I turn into a heartless person. But when you watch Martin and some of these RBs play its amazing what they can do. If Martin runs well at the combine he could be our future at RB since I don’t believe Hunter can do it and Gore is old, slow, and gets caught from behind.
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Idealy I would like to draft one early so that we can replace Gore
but with Dixon on the roster I don’t think it will be feasible to have 4 RBs on the roster. If we cut Gore not only would be save 6m in cap space each year over the next three years (around 5m if we include the new RB salary last year 62nd pick got paid 3.2m over 4 years) That 5m can allow us to bring in/keep a player that will benefit our team more.
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Gore might be old and slow
But he’s still a fantastic veteran running back whose got at least 2 1000+ seasons in him given that the team builds this O-line the way they want to and picks up another running back to preserve Gore.
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He averaged 4.3 ypc
I mean its not bad but I think we can get similar production from a rookie.
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We kept 5 RBs this season...
and it’s very unlikely we go with 2 FBs again, so keeping 4 RBs is a possibility, with Miller as the sole FB. Though if that happens it’s more likely that Dixon is designated as a ST player and is just listed as a RB.
by 9thevolution on Feb 23, 2012 1:07 PM PST up reply actions
Byham will backup FB next year
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Think we go with Gore, Hunter, Dixon, Miller, and Byham (utilizing him both as a TE/backup FB)
"Our deepest fear is not that we are inadequate. Our deepest fear is that we are powerful beyond measure. It is our light, not our darkness that most frightens us"
But will we get another TE on the roster....
If we still stick with 3 TEs on the roster, then we still have an extra roster space for an additional RB.
by 9thevolution on Feb 24, 2012 7:29 AM PST up reply actions
It might be a good idea
To use the spot gained by only carrying one fullback on another wide receiver.
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Harbaugh is almost certain to use that roster spot for a TE.
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He might
I just think carrying 4 TE is stupid. The production you get out of your second and third tights ends isn’t significantly different than a guy you can pick up mid-season compared to the value of a roster spot.
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I don't think carrying 4 TEs is stupid.
TEs are usually great special teams players because of their linebacker like body types.
Heck, the Packers carried 3 fullbacks on their game-day roster (active 45) in 2010 because they all played special teams. With Harbaugh’s system being so reliant on TEs, you want to have an injury replacement at the ready so that you can keep your full playbook week-to-week.
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Yeah
Delanie and Justin sure lit up our special teams units — oh wait, they didn’t.
But they must have been huge factors in the passing game right? Errr… not so much.
But they helped us pound the rock!!! Well, actually we were one of the worst 4 power running teams in the NFL.
So lets add another mediocre jobber into the mix and further drop the collective talent level of our game day roster.
Injuries happen. You can’t start doing idiotic nonsense like making sure your third string tight end has a backup. You do that and you are putting yourself razor thin at a position that might actually be important.
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Maybe those particular TEs don't play STs
but it doesn’t follow that the TE that Baalke would bring in wouldn’t end up playing STs. I’d be happy enough if Justin wasn’t back next year, FWIW.
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Delanie did.
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by FearTheTree on Feb 25, 2012 10:20 AM PST up reply actions
I agree 3 TEs are enough
But I wouldn’t mind drafting a TE to replace Byhnam later in the draft. So that when Walker leaves after his contract we won’t have to scramble.
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Don't you think Reuland is the replacement for Walker...
I think it’s unlikely that they would have kept him on the PS all year if they didn’t have some hope he would make a contribution in the future. They could have brought him up as the #3 instead of Peele, but I have a feeling they see him as more of a receiver than a blocker, so he might be the logical replacement for Walker as the #2.
by 9thevolution on Feb 27, 2012 7:30 AM PST up reply actions
Dunno if he will be the replacement
could be but I dunno
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All speculation, but I figure they kept him for a reason...
Maybe he’s just a good practice body for the team, but knowing that Harbaugh enjoys multiple TE sets and Walker semi-unlikely to return after next year, I can see them using him to step into his place when he’s gone.
by 9thevolution on Feb 28, 2012 7:22 AM PST up reply actions
its hard to predict stuff when we know nothing
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Trade him to Detroit for draft picks if they are dumb enough to take him.
They need another back anyways
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on Feb 23, 2012 5:19 PM PST up reply actions
I'll be happy to trade him
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i.e. Doug Martin in the 2nd or 3rd
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Drafttek is so ridiculous.
Their latest Mock has the 49ers taking Mohamed Sanu in the 1st and LaMichael James in the 2nd. I’d rather have the guys they list right after these 2 guys much more: Stephen Gilmore (South Carolina CB) and Keleche Osmele (Iowa State G).
Also, they have Harrison Smith going in the 4th round. Facepalm.
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Smith is a baller
and we already have a RB like James in Hunter…
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No we don’t, that’s insulting to James and his ability.
Gonna make the WR position relevant again? When?
similar running styles
I don’t see James being a single back
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Now thats insulting to both. Hunter has a small amount of power to his game.
James has pro level vision in a high school body.
Gonna make the WR position relevant again? When?
both won't be featured backs like Gore...
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Not a fan of Sanu? Im doing a mock draft with Dawgs By Nature (Browns blog) and I selected the 49ers because I have a buddy who’s a fan. I was thinking Sanu looks like a good fit potentially depending on who is available. My friend’s advice was looking at CB or OL if Sanu isnt there. Do you agree?
In order to take a WR round 1, even if late round 1, I need to be blown away. Sanu doesn’t blow me away in any way about his game and the stats don’t look appealing either in terms of YPC. Also played against inferior competition.
Stay out of my territory
Sanu's routes are sloppy as hell and he gets no separation.
If you can’t get separation in college you aren’t gonna get it in the NFL either. At least not for a few years. And before that happens he would have to completely clean up his routes
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on Feb 25, 2012 6:07 PM PST up reply actions
I'm backing down from the Sanu bandwagon
The 4.65 40’s really scared me. That being said he does have top end speed, just not initial quickness. He also looks like he could be a nasty blocker.
Harbaugh will find a QB and he will succeed.
I would prefer to get a RT and move Anthony Davis to RG. CB is also a possibility, as well as Center and possibly even a pass rusher.
Stay out of my territory
by DickGozinya on Feb 25, 2012 10:04 PM PST up reply actions
Do you think that Michigan State TE Brian Linthicum's mom had a tongue ring?
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If she did, did she know how to use it?
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by HUNGRY HUNTER on Feb 22, 2012 9:11 PM PST up reply actions
Breaking newz
Ray Ratto has shown up to spring training with a new fourth chin!
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Just when you thought he couldn’t get any fatter…
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I love it
when a guy pushes himself to reach his potential. We can be seeing a legend in the making where his gravitational pull will attract readers instead of his useless “writing”.
by mcwagner on Feb 23, 2012 7:12 AM PST up reply actions 2 recs
lol
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by HUNGRY HUNTER on Feb 25, 2012 1:22 PM PST up reply actions
The "waiting on my supper" mock
I’m assuming we bring in a WR in FA, just not one of the top 5-6 guys. A guy like Manningham might be a good target.
- - Kelechi Osemele – RG / RT
- - George Iloka – S
- - Brian Quick – WR
- - Josh Robinson – CB
- - Kyle Wilber – OLB
- - George Bryan – TE
- - T.J. Graham – WR
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by Ougadas on Feb 23, 2012 7:58 AM PST reply actions 1 recs
I really really hate the autoformat this site uses.
Has there ever been a single case where it made a change and the author of the comment said "I’m really happy, I didn’t mean to type in #30, #64, #92…. I really meant 1. 2. 3. 4. 5. 6. 7., thank you for changing it to what I really meant. "
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by Ougadas on Feb 23, 2012 8:01 AM PST up reply actions 3 recs
That comment made me snort in class...
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by manraj7 on Feb 23, 2012 9:22 AM PST via iPhone app up reply actions
Those first two picks are sensational, Id rather have a different WR though.
Gonna make the WR position relevant again? When?
Me too
But I couldn’t find a way to fit in the guys I wanted with those first two picks.
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What wideouts do you like?
I’m on the Ty Hilton bandwagon, at least until the combine!
Gonna make the WR position relevant again? When?
Love the Osmele pick
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by FearTheTree on Feb 23, 2012 11:20 AM PST up reply actions
Ugh I think you reached a full round on all of those guys in the top 3
I watched Osemele get beat like a rented mule by Oklahoma in 2010… Iloka I think is a 3rd and Quick is a 3rd/4th after the combine when some dudes pass him.
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on Feb 23, 2012 5:22 PM PST up reply actions
We're at the bottom of the round.
If you have to go back to 2010 to see a guy get beaten like a mule at left tackle when I’m going to play him at guard and just give him a look at RT if I have to then I don’t think this is that bad.
I have Iloka as my top FS prospect. Not going to pass on him 2 picks away from the 3rd round.
I don’t like Quick that much. That one was “Well I did want to come out of this draft with some height at WR and everyone else worth a damn is gone so here goes nothing”.
No way Osemele is there are the bottom of the second and no way Iloka is still hanging round bottom of the third. If he runs decently he’ll surprise people by going early in the second ahead of Martin and maybe even Barron.
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Osemele in 2011? you never did show him beaten bad in that season. Until you do that crap is moot.
Gonna make the WR position relevant again? When?
There wasn't any footage to watch
There was only the footage of him getting beat horribly inside. I’m not saying he’s a bad guy. Very small sample size. I just want some more tape to watch of him instead of just a name that people are throwing around
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on Feb 24, 2012 1:17 AM PST up reply actions
Don't like Iloka (Whitner is our SS and he's signed for 3 years)...
especially not in the 2nd, but I’d love to get Josh Robinson in the 4th and Graham in the 7th. You can sell me on Brian Quick, too.
We still have Harbaugh. So there's hope.
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lloka can play man against tigh ends, good at the line, and has long arms
lloka can play free safety
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by HUNGRY HUNTER on Feb 29, 2012 10:35 PM PST up reply actions
Mock
1) Mike Adams, OT Ohio State
2) Vinny Curry, DE Marshall
3) Marvin Mcnutt WR Iowa
4) Omar Bolden, CB Arizona State
5) Joe Looney, OG Wake Forest
6) Vick Ballard, RB Miss State
7) Elvis Akpala WR Montana State
Stay out of my territory
Love love love the Akpla pick
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Strong, powerful receiver that has long speed once he gets going. Potential starter, would have went with Criner or one of the speedsters from Arkansas but I assume they will be long gone by the end of the 3rd.
Stay out of my territory
by DickGozinya on Feb 23, 2012 10:51 PM PST up reply actions
McNutt's got brick hands
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by FearTheTree on Feb 23, 2012 11:28 PM PST up reply actions
Okay?
If you’re looking for a WR in the late 3rd that has no weakness……Well, I’ll just leave you to it.
Stay out of my territory
Long speed? Translation......slow
Can’t handle physical corners at the college level, reminds me of one of the Lions first round busts, Rogers. He can go up for a one on one ball, but that’s his only attribute, in my opinion. Too many hawkeye fans love his production, but I would rather have another player.
Gonna make the WR position relevant again? When?
This is one of the reasons I'm very reserved about the WR class
In a way it is deep, but you have so many guys in this class that haven’t been able to separate against smaller slower corners than they are going to see in the NFL. Which ones are still going to be able to make plays at the next level?
I don’t know. NFL scouts don’t know. It’s all a big crapshoot and we’ve seen “deep” WR drafts before that didn’t have much come out of them but unimpressive situational guys.
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Read somewhere he ran in the 4.4's
As I suspected, speed is not a problem. Not a burner but not slow by any means.
Stay out of my territory
Hrmmm..
Poor route. If he had more than a 1 degree angle on that first cut he could have forced the corner to commit and then a sharp flag cut would have broke the guy’s ankles and he’d have been wide open.
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Nick Toon does that well ;)
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on Feb 24, 2012 6:28 PM PST up reply actions
He's raw.
And doesn’t have top flight long speed. However, he’s an amazing athlete (used to be a top long jumper in HS) and has quicks you can’t teach. 7th round, certainly worth a flier.
Stay out of my territory
All the things you say are true
And are also true about 100 other guys in the draft. Some will find their way onto a PS, others will be lucky if they earned a degree that will help them find other work.
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And a select few cruz right into the NFL.
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by FearTheTree on Feb 25, 2012 12:02 AM PST up reply actions
They do
And every other month somebody wins the lottery. Doesn’t make buying a lottery ticket something you can count on when the rent is coming due.
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Doesn't make it any less worthwhile buying a lottery ticket for a dollar.
And hope for a miracle if your job doesn’t pan out. Worst that happens is you can go buy another one the next week.
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by FearTheTree on Feb 25, 2012 12:20 AM PST up reply actions
Hoping for a miracle
Is not a valid plan of improvement for a general manager in the NFL. Sorry but it isn’t.
In the late rounds you aren’t looking for miracles, you are looking for practice squad guys, long term projects who have some redeeming value that makes you think in a couple years they could be a servicable backup, and special teamers.
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Measurements for the WRs are in.
http://footballsfuture.com/2012/combine/wr.html
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Randle 6'3 210 lbs 33in arms
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Moore is 6 feet
woohooo
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McClellin said it was frustrating going against Kellen Moore in practice. “He gets the ball out so fast.”
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Alshon Jeffery weighed in at a great weight.
After watching some highlights, Jeffery uses his body very well. If the ball is under thrown, he simply slows down a bit and shields the CB from the ball. Great hands and great size. I could care less about his 40 time, as Fitz isn’t a burner. Jeffery could be that guy that falls to the 49ers because of some bad media.
And now Justin Blackmon isn't running the 40
Another guy with speed questions doesn’t help himself. Could he possibly fall past another receiver?
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Watch Wright run a 4.34
And be the 1st guy off the board. I think his ball skills are significantly better than DJax or Wallace. At that speed with his agility (ran 30 yards with half his body leaning out of bounds tiptoeing down the sideline) he’d be 1 HELL of a prospect.
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on Feb 25, 2012 3:19 AM PST up reply actions
I would love it if Wright fell to the 49ers.
I know that he’s not got the Vincent Jackson physicality that I’d love the 49ers future #1 receiver to have, but he can separate. And Alex Smith needs a Wide Receiver that can separate.
We still have Harbaugh. So there's hope.
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Wright is the best receiver in this class
not happening
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by FearTheTree on Feb 25, 2012 10:22 AM PST up reply actions
he's not the best
Floyd, Blackmon are better
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Floyd IMO is definitely not better.
He’s the 4th or 5th best prospect. Wright/Blackmon, (in shape) Jeffrey, Randle, then Floyd/Sanu
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on Feb 25, 2012 1:01 PM PST up reply actions
I'd also live Wright, but yea no way he falls to 30.
Hill is too light. There’s only been one 6’4+ WR under 230 who has been any good and that was Randy Moss. A great player, but a 1 trick pony who clearly displayed his 1 trick in college.
I’d consider Hill a project, so absolutely no way in the first two rounds.
I don’t think they’re going to take a WR early now unless Floyd or Wright fall ( which they won’t ), and otherwise go BPA at another position. All the WR talk is for naught, they’ll bring in a mid level vet, draft someone in the mid rounds and someone in the late rounds. It’ll be 3 guys that basically no one is talking about.
My money is on Guard or Corner.
The game isn't played in your mind's eye. Stop telling me what you don't "see."
by whistlingmountain on Feb 27, 2012 6:51 AM PST up reply actions
There’s only been one 6’4+ WR under 230 who has been any good and that was Randy Moss
AJ Green, Plax, Colston
Stay out of my territory
Colston and Plax are 230
You’re right I forgot about AJ
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by whistlingmountain on Feb 28, 2012 3:41 AM PST up reply actions
What more impressive Wright runs in the low 4.3 or Randle in the low 4.4s?
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Wright in the low 4.3s
That’s the rare type of speed where guys are running all by themselves. You can’t stop it even at the NFL level. Only hope to contain it. Elite speed kills in all pro sports. Even at the highest levels (except maybe baseball where speed has been marginalized for power).
Boxing – Pacquiao/Floyd
Buckets – Iverson/Derrick Rose
Football – Moss/DJax/Wallace
Hockey – It’s been a while since there have been any truly elite speed guys but when they were around it was Peter Bondra/Pavel Bure/Teemu Selanne,
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on Feb 25, 2012 1:14 PM PST up reply actions
My belief is a 4.38
With a very possible 4.35-4.36. If he runs lower than that he’s leaping the boards.
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on Feb 25, 2012 6:08 PM PST up reply actions
And he was flying when he did it
He had bad starts. Movement on the line before he took off. The guy hitting the start was ridiculous. As myself and another person both said we want to see his super imposed 4.61 against the low 4.4s. It was like Taylor Mays’ 4.43
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on Feb 26, 2012 3:52 PM PST up reply actions
I agree he's not a 4.6 guy
And it was an outlier time, but I still don’t think he has that true elite speed like a Mike Wallace or Desean Jackson.
Stay out of my territory
Is the NFL.com/combine/live stream working for anyone?
I’ve tried IE and Firefox and so far, no luck. And yes, I have that akamai thing installed.
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NFL and First Row both working for me.
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NFL still not working, but thanks for the firstrow reminder.
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works purrfect for me
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i think this would be a good draft
1st vinny curry or whitney mercelious olb
2nd alameda ta amu dt/nt
3rd stephen hill wr
4th safety or cliff harris fs or cb
5th adrian hamilton olb
6th michael egnew te
7nth small school oline man ol
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Has Curry already catapulted himself into Late 1 status?
Damn. Was hoping he’d be there in the late 2nd.
Stay out of my territory
Not as a linebacker he hasn't
But as a defensive end I think so.
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Cliff Harris will be a steal for someone. Best CB 2 years ago and best return guy in college hands down....
He wasn’t the best this year because he never really played much……Has to stop putting himself first and stop being stupid. If he grows up he will be a good one at a low price.
by ericalancanty on Feb 25, 2012 5:57 PM PST up reply actions
Also needs to gain some weight.
You want to play in the NFL at 165-170 you are eventually going to be broken in half and some of the receivers in this league can push you around like a small child.
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He doesn't sound like he's doing too much growing up...
Justifies his 118mph speeding ticket by saying that he comes from a family of drag racers.
Justifies his possession convictions by saying that he was a kid back then….less than six months ago.
I know he’s saying something different to the scouts at the combine, but to local papers (i just read the OLive article over breakfast today), he isn’t really coming across very humbled.
many people smoke weed and I have been caught speeding over 120mph although I was not cited for that much. Does smoking weed a handful of times and going over 120mph make me a horrible person? People grow out of stuff.
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by HUNGRY HUNTER on Feb 29, 2012 12:56 AM PST up reply actions
Combine thoughts....
Anyone got any comments on the CB Robinson from UCF? Aside from being fast, the dude looks solid. I don’t really know much about his game tape- but with his frame, he looks like a guy that could get up to the line and get physical with NFL WRs.
Poor RG3. The guy goes out and has a Heisman season, wows at the combine, and will, no doubt, impress at his pro day. And in the end, it’ll get him a ticket to (gulp) Washington DC to play for a team that is annually in shambles. Sad.
Like predicted Harrison Smith did well in the combine
When watching Smith doing the drills Sanders wondered if he was a Corner or a Safety. Because he moved so well
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6-2 213
4.56 40 34 inch vertical
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I'm on board
which round is he projected to go?
I think he's the 3rd or 4th rated safety right now....
Probably a 2nd round pick. His game film makes him look more like a SS than a FS though. Then again since we already send out two strong safeties now, it wouldn’t matter much if we drafted him for FS.
2nd round pick
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My new dream draft.
Trade bowman to the eagles for their first pick this year and 2nd pick next year. then trade those picks and next years 1st and 3rd to the rams for no other then-
1st pick RGIII
2nd pick Stephen Hill
3rd pick George Iloka
4th pick Alameda Ta’Amu
5th Marvin Jones
6th Cliff Harris
7nth ILB
8th oline
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the rams wont trade within their own division
even assuming that bowman is on the trade block
for the best offer, I think they would trade within the division.
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by HUNGRY HUNTER on Feb 29, 2012 2:04 PM PST up reply actions
State of Utah Prospects
I am from the great state of Utah, and feel like we have a couple guys the 9ers might like.
What do you guys think of any of these picks:
RB Robert Turbin in the 3rd round (could be steal of the draft)
G Matt Reynolds in the 6th round (would have been taken in the 2nd-3rd round last year)
OL Derrick Shelby in the 7th round (versatile, but needs to learn more)
Turbin helped himself at the Combine, but IDK about the other guys.
We still have Harbaugh. So there's hope.
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mock drafts
A lot have, but most have generally involved a decent amount of commentary on each pick. Not all of them, but enough that I don’t want to get people thinking they shouldn’t be posting FanPosts. Thoughts on how best to handle it?
by David Fucillo on Mar 1, 2012 10:45 AM PST up reply actions
Create a new fan post, copy and paste the mocks and explain why...
Should be a new post with players at need positions with combine info. After the combine there are always mocks.
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I thought they would go in here
Don’t really feel like telling people to put their stuff in here. And even then I can’t force them I have no power.
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depth of the post
My thought has always been that if it involves a solid breakdown of each pick, 49ers needs, etc and goes beyond just a list and a sentence or two for each pick, then it works best in here. But if it involves an in depth breakdown, I think it’s worth a separate post.
by David Fucillo on Mar 1, 2012 11:45 AM PST up reply actions
You know what I love....
The fact that my Arkie boys are always overlooked…
This year, there is an absolute STEAL. No one is talking about this guy, who last year was projected as a first or second rounder. He had a knee injury this past season, and his production dropped. He was at the combine, performed decently, nothing over the top. He’ll be there in the later rounds, and WILL be better than his draft status. He may be there in 6 or 7.
Greg Childs 6’3 219lbs 4.55 speed. He’s one of 3 Arkie wrs in the draft. Probably will be the last picked, and he’ll probably be the best pro.
Joe Adams will make a decent return man, he’s faster than his combine speed shows, but Childs will be that big guy everyone is looking for.
Repeating something over and over doesn't make it true.
by Arkie49er on Mar 1, 2012 11:15 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
Don't think Childs is being overlooked...
There’s a small contingency here who is hoping we grab him late and he turns into a steal.
havent seen anyone mention him
or any of my other arkie boys. Adams, Childs, Bequette (another potential steal in 5 or 6 if he’s there), or the OTHER Wright, who is another guy in later rounds worth a look. These are guys who put up good numbers in a system that is designed to spread the ball all over the place. Hell, Wright managed over a thousand last year, and that is dang near impossible the way passes are spread out.
Repeating something over and over doesn't make it true.
Agreed.
Childs is my draft crush WR for the late rounds. I also like Wright as I feel he can fly but Childs is my favorite receiver from Arkansas.
Stay out of my territory
I'll have the new post up tomorrow
its almost done
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