49ers 2012 Precombine Mock Draft
by Saccity9ers on Feb 20, 2012 5:17 PM PST
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PrintRound 1: Coby Fleener TE Stanford
At 6'6 he can be a threat in the redzone. I didnt really like this pick but Harbaugh loves his former players so it makes more sense now to take Fleener with the idea of him being like the new breed of TEs in the NFL.
Round 2: Nick Toon WR Wisconsin
6'3 position WR with good hands that can come back to the ball which a lot of WRs young and old do not do. He has the ability to block which is important in the 49ers offense, if he can get his hands on you he will block you, (watch the Rose Bowl against TCU, everytime he blocked the TCU defender was on his back).
Round 3: Amini Silatolu G Midwestern State
A 6'4 quick and strong guard who is moving up boards and can be a sleeper pick. Good with his hands, a strong blocker and is quick off the ball. 49ers love to pull the guard and with his speed it fits well with the offense.
Round 4: Brandon Boykin CB Georgia
Only 5'10 but very versatile player, he played deffense, offense, and returned kicks for Georgia. Tackled well, adding on to the strength of the 49ers deffense. Broke his leg during the Senior Bowl why he has dropped but if he falls to round 4 this will be a steal.
Round 5: C/FS
Was undecided with round 5 but im thinking an O-Linemen or Safety. Opinions on pick?
Round 6: Oliver Vernon DE/OLB Miami
6'4 has length, pass rush ability, and can dropp back into coverage. Will add depth at the OLB position.
Round 7: Edwin Baker RB Michigan State
5'9 an upgrade from Dixon. He hits the holes hard, breaks tackles, has good agility, good cuts, and seems faster in-game. Possibly a future replacement for Frank Gore. Similiar style with more speed and youth.
This is precombine, so picks can move up or down and change after the combine. We will then have a better idea and more accurate mock drafts.
This is a FanPost and does not necessarily reflect the views of Niners Nation's writers or editors. It does reflect the views of this particular fan though, which is as important as the views of Niners Nation's writers or editors.
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Finally, Brandon Boykins, my favorite player in this draft.
Gonna make the WR position relevant again? When?
No way he lasts until the 4th, though.
If he did, I’d be thrilled, but if he were healthy he’d be a borderline 1st. And teams pay more attention to the tape than to the Combine workouts.
Boykins is an ideal slot corner in that he’s got great speed and agility—perfect for covering the Wes Welkers and Victor Cruzes of the world.
We still have Harbaugh. So there's hope.
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And he's got the fight of a linebacker in that small frame.
He was schooling some much larger WR at the Senior Bowl.
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Agree with #1
Unless a WR or another player of need falls (someone with strong upside/talent for the 30th pick), I’d take Fleener if available. Perfect complimentfor this offense.
Player of need? Then you say Fleener, that is comical.
Gonna make the WR position relevant again? When?
Fleener is a second round talent. And yes I would it helps the team more!
Gonna make the WR position relevant again? When?
Alshon Jeffery
I liked Jeffery with #30 if he fell there but i just see Harbaugh wanting to draft Fleener and the more you think about it, its not a horrible pick
Quite the opposite
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on Feb 20, 2012 7:46 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
The combine will maybe shed some light on what type of player he'll become.
If he comes in lean and mean weighing 230 and somehow runs a low 4.5, like an elite, PROFESSIONAL, athlete of his caliber is able to do, he won’t be around at 30 anyways. If he does come in huge there’s just no way for that to be a good thing. If Jeffrey gets his head right he could be damn good… But he can’t be lazy. He’s not that good.
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on Feb 21, 2012 3:34 AM PST up reply actions
I don't think its worth drafting a T that high
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Man,
Coby Fleener is great and everything but the Niners aren’t going to draft a TE in the first.
Unless Vernon Davis decides to play for Chicago…
"It all depends on the quarterback."
---Jerry Rice
I hope not, improving the oline, wr group, cbs is gonna get us a lot further than fleener.
Gonna make the WR position relevant again? When?
Harbaugh loves his Stanford guys so much
That we passed on Marecic, Sherman, Fua, and Whalen and let Baldwin go undrafted.
I guess we do have 3 of his Stanford guys on our practice squad — but the majority of PS guys in the NFL are there to run the PS. If one in fifty turns into a servicable backup or role player it’s great, but probably doesn’t even happen that frequently.
And remember Baalke controls the roster and the draft, not Harbaugh.
Every time Jamie Dukes says something enlightening and informative about football Jerry Rice and I mount up on our flying grizzly bears and claim pirate treasure from the moon. That's how often it happens.
The argument *for* Fleener in three points: (spoiler: they're not enough)
1) Harbaugh felt burnt that he let Sherman and Baldwin go to other teams where they were successful
2) Harbaugh loves 3-TE sets and he sees Fleener as an immediate upgrade over BOTH Delanie Walker and Justin Peele, and also as a replacement for Delanie, who will be a free agent in 2013.
3) The 49ers need a red zone threat, and Fleener’s 6’6" height (3" and 6" taller than VD and Delanie) and body control make him a candidate to be split wide for the fade routes that Braylon Edwards couldn’t catch last year.
I don’t see it happening because, as Ougadas just pointed out, the 49ers haven’t reached for Stanford guys before. Plus, TE is a position at which you can get guys later in the draft and thus at which it doesn’t make sense to spend a lot of money. Byham looked quite good before going down with an injury last fall, and he will be back.
I like Fleener as a prospect, but I don’t think Harbaugh’s love for 3-TE sets will be enough to sway the 49ers enough to take him in the 1st round. Maybe in the 2nd — which is a greater possibility, since he’s not going to run at the Combine (if he had blazed the 40 that might have pushed him up), but not in the first.
We still have Harbaugh. So there's hope.
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He's not going to run?
He’s going to fall. He needed to prove some speed at the combine.
Still don’t want him. He’d be a perfect fit for us if we were trying to duplicate the Saints offense. We aren’t. We already have 1 TE who is a Big WR, 1 who is a LightFB, and Peelle was a RosterFiller.
Is it too much to ask for to actually have a tight end? You know, a big guy with a nasty streak that loves blindsiding linebackers and can move the chains in the 5-7 yard passing game?
Every time Jamie Dukes says something enlightening and informative about football Jerry Rice and I mount up on our flying grizzly bears and claim pirate treasure from the moon. That's how often it happens.
I guess he has an ankle injury that he suffered during Stanford's Bowl Game.
Apparently Rob Rang broke the story—though it is only a “”http://www.rotoworld.com/content/playerpages/playerbreakingnews.asp?sport=NFL&id=7418&line=228086&spln=1" >report" at this point.
This is really good news for the 49ers’ chances to get him…if they want him.
Curious, though: who do you see as the prototypical 5-7 yard tight end? Brandon Pettigrew? Gronkowski? Gronk averaged nearly 15 yards per catch, so he doesn’t seem to fit your mold…
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In the NFL today?
Hard to say. For half the league it seems like they are taking a WR stretching him out 2-3 inches, putting 20 pounds on him and calling him a TE.
I’m not saying we should be looking to get a guy who’s limited to the 5-7 yard game, just one who excels at it and has the size and technique to work in-line. As much as I hate the Cowboys Witten might be a good example. He’s one of the most overlooked excellent blockers in the league and it seems like he’s always open on third down for that 5-7 yards they need for the first.
Every time Jamie Dukes says something enlightening and informative about football Jerry Rice and I mount up on our flying grizzly bears and claim pirate treasure from the moon. That's how often it happens.
Witten is an "any-era" TE.
True football fans can see past the Star on the helmet and appreciate the talent.
We still have Harbaugh. So there's hope.
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Witten is a checkdown option and hardly a threat these days. If the Cowboys are passing to Witten its a bad for the offense and they aren’t winning most or those games.
The Saints, Packers and Pats illustrate the 15 ypc TE is more valuable than the 5-7 ypc TE. Well the 49ers demonstrate the concept beautifully with VD. A team should never prefer the less passing productive option.
by bignerd on Feb 21, 2012 1:38 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
First paragraph is true
You can’t have a foot in both worlds. Doesn’t work well.
The second paragraph I’m not so sure about. It’s more valuable to them in their offense. In ours I’ll trade half the long passes to VD this year for 25% better 3rd down conversion rate.
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um what?
He averaged 11.9 yards a catch for 942 yards. Bad for the offense? So much fail here, don’t even know how to respond. Yes Graham averaged 13.2 and Gronk averaged 14.7, but these were mind blowing performances from the TE position. Vernon averaged 11.8 by the way.
YPC has nothing to do with what style of TE you are.
How about a Greg Olsen? I think Olsen is exactly what we would call a traditional TE. A 3rd down and end zone target.
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on Feb 21, 2012 5:49 PM PST up reply actions
Love for 3-TE set?
If they draft Fleener, he becomes the 2nd TE in two-TE sets. Walker’s proven value beyond just lining up at TE. They’ll figure a way to use him before his contract expires.
Outside of the few at the top, Fleener is a better option (even for this team) at the 30th pick than most WR’s.
No he isnt, compresses formations hurt the qb. 9 in the box= panic button.
Gonna make the WR position relevant again? When?
All I’m saying that if anyone knows how to use Fleener it’s Harbaugh. Clearly having Walker or even Byham on the line vastly improves the protection, but let’s not pretend like Fleener can’t become a serviceable blocker if on the line.
I’m not a formation expert and I won’t act like one, but Fleener is a weapon and would be a steal at #30 if he develops his blocking ability. It’s clear what this team needs at WR, and they’re not going to find it from where they’re drafting unless they trade up. I’d rather add a dynamic weapon in Fleener, who’s learning curve wouldn’t be steep, and add depth at WR in the mid-rounds.
Unless Alshon Jeffery kills it at the combine, any other receiver once Blackmon, Floyd, and Wright are off the board would be a reach. Just my opinion.
This is all of course assuming they’re leaning towards someone to improve the offense, and not taking a CB/OLB/DE. I’d be content with Nick Perry
by TheFreakSFG on Feb 21, 2012 11:48 PM PST up reply actions
The problem is his size
At 6’6" he has to be alot bigger than he is to be able to block in line. And he already has questions about his speed — you want to put another 20 pounds on the guy and that turns into a serious liability.
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