NFL Mock Draft 2012: OLB Could Make A Lot Of Sense
The San Francisco 49ers drafted Aldon Smith last year as an outside linebacker, but ended up using him primarily as a nickel defensive end. Without a traditional offseason to get acclimated, the team was content letting him focus on his pass rushing skills in games, while working on the rest of the OLB package in practice. It worked out pretty well as Smith was a dominant pass rusher. Now he gets a full offseason to develop the rest of his game and potentially turn into a more well-rounded outside linebacker.
The timing on that is kind of important given that the 49ers could find themselves losing starting OLB Ahmad Brooks. The former pass rush specialist showed he could handle a more all-inclusive role in 2011 and was among the team leaders in total defensive snaps. He enters free agency a bit under the radar, which surprises me considering how he performed in 2012. The 49ers conceivably might be able to get him back without breaking the bank, but I still think someone out there drives the price up a bit.
Given all that, the 49ers are likely in serious need of another outside linebacker. Parys Haralson seems settled in as a two-down linebacker who needs to be replaced on passing downs. If that is the case, could the 49ers look to replicate last year's scenario with Smith and Brooks? Could we potentially see the 49ers move Smith into a full-time OLB role and bring in another converted defensive end to complement Parys Haralson. SB Nation put together a new mock draft yesterday with the 49ers grabbing USC's Nick Perry at No. 30.
I've added a poll to see what people think about the first round pick. I'm curious from a general standpoint what position you think the 49ers select with the pick. There are a lot of factors that will go into what player is selected, but just from a general perspective, in which direction do you see the 49ers going with the pick?
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Flying under the radar
Good point, Fooch, on the potential market price for a guy like Brooks. I can see him coming back to the Niners at a good price if the NFL doesn’t take notice of his abilities.
I’m interested to see what value the Niner’s FO places on Ahmad. He seems to fit the defense well as a guy that can play all downs. And Vic has shown his reliance on high energy- high endurance players. Should the org re-up on Brooks, it would be nice to see a beastly DE picked at the top of the draft- a guy that can rotate with McD and Justin.
I know the defensive front isn’t a weakness on this team, but it’s time we start to realize how expensive it will be to keep the best defense in the league. Might as well interchange some important parts while the team still can afford to.
Perry won't be available at 30
But, if he is the 49ers will not pass up on that talent. Having Aldon Smith and Nick Perry opposite one another and on the outside with Bowman and Willis on the inside would make their defense nearly unstoppable.
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by nocal81(Vincent) on Feb 21, 2012 12:21 PM PST reply actions
theres so much talent in the first round
I could easily see him falling to us
by Dylan DeSimone on Feb 21, 2012 12:45 PM PST up reply actions
Unless he stumbles at the combine,
no way perry is there at 30. Nevertheless, there’s still Zach Brown, Vinny Curry, and a handfull of other players who probably will be there and could end up being as effective as, if not more so, than Perry if coached and utilized properly this season.
Bottom line, the first round is deep in pass rushers; the entire draft is deep in potential starting wide receivers.
Get an OLB early, and address the wideouts and other positions of need in rounds 2-7.
by f p soft on Feb 21, 2012 2:08 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Falling to #30, easily? I seriously doubt it ... certainly possible, but doubtful; he is most likely to go 24-28 ... based upon pre-Combine info.
Clearly that can always change … we’ll have to wait and see.
by 49erFanSince1950 on Feb 21, 2012 2:31 PM PST up reply actions
rather have vinny curry
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by HUNGRY HUNTER on Feb 22, 2012 1:36 AM PST up reply actions
RG or OLB
these two positions aren’t being talked about as much but make total sense. I mean, Chilo is likely gone and IS NOT a viable starter anyway. If Snyder walks, there’s a glaring hole automatically. OLB also makes a ton of sense because we’re almost expecting Brooks to just be gone. I guess most just assumed Aldon would step in and Parys would switch sides, but this could be an opportunity to bring in an OLB in the draft.
ALSO
we’re assuming 49ers re-sign Morgan, have Crabs and KW AND sign one of the FA WRs
by Dylan DeSimone on Feb 21, 2012 12:30 PM PST reply actions
Flying under the radar
That situational third-down pass rusher might be on the roster already: Bruce Miller. He demonstrated he possessed some skill in this pursuit in college. . .just a thought.
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by jestasmaltownboy on Feb 21, 2012 10:16 PM PST up reply actions
He's a fullback
They aren’t going to start running him out there on defense as well. He’s still learning to play on offense so it’s highly unlikely they will ask him to start playing both ways. They’ll pick up a situational rusher in the draft or FA to pair with Harrelson or whoever beats him out of his job.
by 9thevolution on Feb 22, 2012 8:09 AM PST up reply actions
I just don't see the 49ers
utilizing the first round draft pick on any position other than at wide received. Of course, this could change with FA and all of that good stuff, but I just don’t see it happening.
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Baalke's too smart to fall into the trap....
of reaching just to land a WR. There’s not a lot of hope for the top talent to fall to 30. And if the WR’s at 30 don’t have a round 1 grade- he won’t take ’em.
This is supposedly a very deep WR draft, don’t be disappointed if the niners don’t take WR with the 1st or 2nd pick.
So what happens with the wide receiver situation then? All FA pickups?
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This class, by all accounts
Is one of the deepest WR draft classes in years. A lot of very good WRs are drafted after Round 1.
Only receiver id take for sure in the first
besides blackmon is Michael Floyd but he def he aint falling to 30
Wright might be better than both
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on Feb 21, 2012 9:28 PM PST up reply actions
I don't expect much to happen.
i think they take a couple in the mid rounds, and possibly some lesser known FAs to come in and compete.
The biggest FA signing at WR will probably be Josh Morgan.
Let’s not forget, Crabtree did have a solid year, Morgan was on pace to have a big year, and Vernon really came on late in the season. All three of these guys should see improvement in year 2. all while alex was being poorly protected. I think they beef up the OL, and see if Smith can take the next step with what he’s got.
I would think that a Meachem, Manningham, Garcon or Simpson would be the biggest FA WR signing for us...
We know they want Morgan, but I would expect them to target the above guys and get whichever one they weren’t overpaying for. Since they aren’t one of our own guys, the media will tout it like it is our biggest acquisition. Meanwhile, Morgan will likely have the biggest impact on the team next year.
by 9thevolution on Feb 21, 2012 1:18 PM PST up reply actions
please people... Jerome Simpson is going to prison.
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on Feb 21, 2012 6:24 PM PST up reply actions
For a period not to exceed 5 years
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on Feb 21, 2012 6:24 PM PST up reply actions
I lack faith in the American justice system when it comes to athletes and celebrities....
He’s not exactly Ray Caruthe and conspiring to muder his girlfriend.
by 9thevolution on Feb 22, 2012 8:11 AM PST up reply actions
No but Rae deserved the death penalty first off. Not losing his career
And Jerome had 8 pounds of bud. They are gonna nail him on distribution and likely on tax evasion. 1-5 years of time
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on Feb 22, 2012 4:34 PM PST up reply actions
Include Morgan as a FA pickup...
Draft BPA with within your position needs, WR, OLB, CB, interior OL, S, DE
I’m curious how the FO is prioritizing these positions, but I think they should try and draft a WR early and late, resign Morgan, and sign a mid-tier FA that hangs out there once the big fish go, ie Rogers.
Best available or trade down
simple as that.
by asmithisaverage on Feb 21, 2012 12:48 PM PST reply actions
My thoughts exactly
Have stick to the board of best player available if you can’t trade down. I believe in our coaches and I think we can get some quality guys in the later rounds.
Best Available
WR is clearly the biggest need, but it comes down to who’s available. I’d love adding Fleener as I’ve made clear, but if there’s someone better available at that pick, then take him.
WR is the obvious choice, just like CB was the obvious choice last year
49ers FO clearly balances BPA with need. At this point, I would only be surprised if the 49ers took one of the following in the first round, every other position could make sense: T, QB, ILB, DE (to play the front 3), anyone for special teams.
I have Faith in the FO,
to take the same approach as last year. I wouldn’t be surprised tho if they took a DE there if he was a great value. It will just be fun seeing what they do in FA to clear up draft priorities.
if Perry is available @ 30
and he’s the best available, i wouldn’t mind him as our pick; since this year’s draft is deep @ WR anyway…we can always land one in the 2nd round; this is sorta predicated of course on us re-uping on Morgan which i think we will, maybe even going out to get a middle-of-the-road FA WR
Guard is most likely, IMO...
I don’t think the talent is there for the WR position at #30 overall. It would seem everyone is hoping that Randle, Sanu or Jeffery elevates themselves into 1st round contention when they aren’t really 1st round talents. I would rather they took a RG, or if a good T falls, and then look for 2nd-tier talent at WR, CB/FS and OLB with the next few picks.
There will most likely be someone available at #30 for OL who is worth the pick rather than reaching for a WR just because everyone thinks it’s a huge need.
I would love a G, but...
Glenn is the only other guy worth taking and he won’t lasting that long. I wouldn’t mind Konz and playing him at G this year. Otherwise, i don’t see one til maybe the 3-4 like Osemele or Kelemente.
1st round interior linemen right now are Konz DeCastro and Glenn...
Then you have a few 2nd round talents that could sneak up depending on certain players’ performances. It wouldn’t purprise me if OL is the BPA at #30. And like I said, I wouldn’t mind a tackle either and just push Davis in to RG.
by 9thevolution on Feb 22, 2012 12:22 PM PST up reply actions
SB Nation draft
Said, “The Giants reminded the 49ers that you can never have enough pass rushers.” Didn’t we sack Eli 5 times and get quite a bit of pressure?
Not sure what this statement is based on.
yup, after half-time the Niners front 7 was near dominant
and if Williams didn’t fumble the 2nd time in OT and the Niners didn’t score on that possession, Eli might have gotten murdered because the pass rush was getting even stronger
by sanfranfanmdk on Feb 21, 2012 2:19 PM PST up reply actions
Or if Alex Smith was about to put together one drive in the 4th/OT...
by asmithisaverage on Feb 21, 2012 6:35 PM PST up reply actions
you're getting OLD dude
if it wasn’t for Alex, they wouldn’t have even made it to the NFC Champ game and he had a better QB rating than Eli, and Eli has an array of good receivers to throw to, not just one TE like Alex has
by sanfranfanmdk on Feb 25, 2012 9:01 PM PST up reply actions
Always nice when someone agrees with me.
Thanks, Fooch.
Unless Brooks is willing to take less $$ to stay in SF than he will likely command on the open market, he will probably be let go. In that case, this year’s Draft being as deep as it is at the wide receiver position, the number one priority should be to get the Smiths some help in the pass rushing department.
Don't think it's necessary
We are rushing 3 and 4 half of the time and getting decent pressure. If our scheme went after the quarterback more instead of hanging back in a Cover 3 we would see more sacks from Willis, Bowman, Brooks, and even Haralson.
But we don’t. This is not a 3-4 defense. We do not use the flexibility of having 4 linebackers on the field to apply disguised immediate pressure on opposing quarterbacks. This is a Cover 2/3 defense that likes to line up in a 3-4 formation.
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Precisely.
Which is why re-signing Brooks would be a costly mistake.
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It makes a lot of sense to let Brooks go
and draft one or more player(s) that can step in right away and provide pressure opposite Aldon Smith. Point is, it’s important to maintain that pressure when rushing 3 or 4. Takes pressure off everyone else on the defense, and makes the defense that much better.
To be fair Fangio and the rest of the D said that he didn't install his defense fully
Because its too complicated and he didn’t have an offseason to implement it.
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by manraj7 on Feb 21, 2012 2:36 PM PST via iPhone app up reply actions
That's why it's necessary
If you only rush four, those four need to be very good pass rushers. Aldon, Justin, and Ray McD are three great pass rushers. Brooks is above average but is going to be a very popular free agent and very expensive to re-sign. Haralson is a solid player and a good plug-in, but not a dynamic player off the edge.
If you let Brooks go, you need to draft an outside rusher opposite Aldon to at least develop behind Haralson. Doesn’t have to be in the first round, but it needs to be early. This draft also seems pretty deep in guys like that: Nick Perry, Whitney Mercilus, Andre Branch, Cam Johnson, Vinny Curry, Ronnell Lewis, Chandler Jones, Jonathan Massaquoi, and Bruce Irvin are all draftable in the first few rounds.
I think you're over-valuing Brooks
He’s had the same relatively moderate production for the last couple years
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on Feb 21, 2012 6:27 PM PST up reply actions
I feel that haralson is a better pass rusher than brooks
but brooks is a little better all-around as far as helping with the pass
Hell to the no, Haralson is the worst pass rusher of the entirr front 7.
Gonna make the WR position relevant again? When?
Don’t count out Dontavia Bogan just yet. Would not surprise me at all if ? Niners went with a OLB , Olinemen or a Dlinemen in the first round. I’ve always said it’s best to build from in the trenches where the game of football starts. I expect the Niners to go into the draft with Crabtree, Morgan, Ginn Williams, Bogan all under contract. Te’s under contract should be Davis, Walker, Byham, Reuland, and Kyle Nelson. That some pretty good camp bodies right there, wide receiver can be drafted in the later rounds hopefully.
by bmcrae83@yahoo.com on Feb 21, 2012 2:45 PM PST reply actions
He's one of the guys I'm really interested in seeing play this pre-season
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What was Bogan's injury again?
ACL or Achilles? If it’s the Achilles then we might as well scrap him; it’s very rare that a player comes back from that to be anything close to what they were before.
by 9thevolution on Feb 22, 2012 8:16 AM PST up reply actions
ACL
Holcomb was the achilles I think.
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That's what I thought...
Too bad for Holcomb. He’s probably not going to make the roster or even the PS this year.
by 9thevolution on Feb 22, 2012 12:23 PM PST up reply actions
Smart GM's draft fo dominant Defensive front 7 and O-Line.....
in other words until you big men up front on defense and offense can week out and week in kick the ass of the other teams big men, you wont win many games.
I have no problem at ALL if we use our ear;ier picks on the Defensive front 7 or the O-line.
When do we think Bruce Irvin from west Virginia gets picked? Is he worth a first round pick ?
by bmcrae83@yahoo.com on Feb 21, 2012 2:54 PM PST reply actions
Everything I have read says he's "just a pass rusher"
Too thin a frame for run support and not fluid/instinctive enough for coverage. Which to me, makes him a very interesting guy in the 2nd or 3rd round. Because he is probably the best size speed guy in the whole draft and if all he has to do is rush the passer on 3rd down opposite Aldon Smith than he could make an impact in year one kind of like Mark Anderson did a few years back for the Bears.
This whole discussion demonstrates the dilemma that the Niners have holding the 30th pick in the draft ...
The most obvious selections at the 30th pick, in no particular order, would be WR, OG or OLB (pass rusher) … other defensive positions (CB, S, DE, NT) are of secondary priority. But here are the problems:
1. WR – there are 3 WRs worthy of a first round pick, but all will be gone by pick 30; further, all of the second-tier prospects who will be available at 30 will probably also be available at 45. Do you really want to reach that far in the first round?
2. OG – there are either 1 or 2 (depending upon whether you classify Glenn as a OG or OT) worthy of a first round pick; DeCastro will be gone and probably Glenn too; the next three OGs (Zeitler, Osemele and Silatolu) will all still be available until about pick 45. Again, do you really want to reach that far?
3. OLB – there are three OLBs who would make sense (at least in the early rounds) for the Niners … Perry, Curry and McClellin. Perry could drop to #30 but it’s not likely. Curry will not likely be picked before #45 and McClellin not before #70. Once again, do you really want to reach that far IF Perry is gone at #30?
So … this is becoming a lot more difficult than we originally thought. What is the right answer, given this sitution? Glad that you asked. The answer is, TRADE DOWN TO THE LEVEL WHERE YOU CAN GET THE GUYS THAT YOU WANT AND PICK UP ADDITIONAL DRAFT CHOICES. As I pointed out in my recent post, try to make a deal with Dallas … they would love to have the #30 pick to get either a OG or CB. How would that work? The Niners trade #30 to Dallas in exchange for #45 (second round) and #82 (third round). We can still get the guy we want (say Randle, Hill, Zeitler, or Curry) at #45 … and still have $62, #82 and #93 in the second and third rounds.
by 49erFanSince1950 on Feb 21, 2012 3:01 PM PST reply actions
positions
If Carlos Rogers walks in free agency, is cornerback still a secondary priority (no pun intended)?
by David Fucillo on Feb 21, 2012 3:04 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
well...
only after I re-read it I suppose.
by David Fucillo on Feb 21, 2012 3:09 PM PST up reply actions
If Carlos Rogers walks, I would expect Baalke to draft a CB at #62 or #82 (if we trade down) ... the most likely prospects:
Trumaine Johnson (Montana)
Brandon Boykin (Georgia)
Josh Norman (Coastal Carolina)
Leonard Johnson (Iowa State)
Chase Minnifield (Virginia) … if he falls to #62
by 49erFanSince1950 on Feb 21, 2012 3:26 PM PST up reply actions
Even if we resign CR
we’ll still need to draft a CB regardless.
I’m developing feelings for Trumaine, he would be a sexy 2nd rounder
Maybe just give him a call instead?
Maybe go out for pizza and a brew?
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I think youre underestimating the vakue of wrs, there will be at least 5, I dont need the combine to see what others do.
Alshon Jeffrey will price to be worth a first, either at the combine or in the season.
Gonna make the WR position relevant again? When?
I'm not suggesting that I think WR is unimportant. On a pre-Combine basis, here's where I see the second-tier WRs going ...
35-40: Sanu
45-50: Randle and Jeffery
55-65: Hill
70-80: Toon and Criner
90-100: Quick, Jones and Streeter
100-110: Adams
140+: McNutt
by 49erFanSince1950 on Feb 21, 2012 3:37 PM PST up reply actions
"Pre-Combine basis"
next that list will look entirely different
Wide receivers are never worth a first when your team needs help in the trenches
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The right answer is to move up and take Konz
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on Feb 21, 2012 6:30 PM PST up reply actions
You generally never trade up for a guard/center in this league.
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You really like the 45th pick.
The hardest thing in trading down is finding a partner. Of course a team would want to move up, but who knows if they wanna give up those picks.
Kiper has us taking Randle at WR
which pretty much locks it up that we will NOT draft him. If the player taken is what Kiper predicted (except for obvious #1 pick) then shame on Baalke for letting that happen
Not necessarily true...
The FO clearly doesn’t buy into the mass media BS, but they surely know how badly they need a WR. If Baalke thinks Randle has the physical skills, character and work ethic to be the #1 WR that we need, he will take him.
Kiper is basing his assumption purely off of need and player projection. He’s not taking into account that we draft “football guys,” so if Randle doesn’t fit that description, he’s out even if he’s sitting there 3 rounds later than his projection.
by 9thevolution on Feb 22, 2012 8:24 AM PST up reply actions
Trade down 1st round pick for an early 2nd round pick and 3rd or 4th
Then draft either OG Zeitler/OG Osemele, and DE/OLB Vinny Curry/Andre Branch/Cam Johnson.
OG
Part of the problem the Niners had on offense was the lack of talent depth at WR. The other part was lack of a true mauler at RG. Snyder gave up 34 pressures this season and he didn’t even start till week 3. While he did stabilize the line he wasn’t very good and that is the biggest weakness on the offense. If I’m Baalke and Cordy Glenn or Pete Konz falls to me I make that pick in a heartbeat. Glenn could play RG immediately and move to the OT in needed while Konz could play RG immediately and move to C once Goody is done. As far as OLB is concerned if Brooks walks I’d bring back Manny and draft a youngster to back him up. Jacquies Smith and Donte Paige Moss are late round guys that could play in a limited role. Manny’s issue wasn’t scheme it was coaching. He would has also benefited playing over the LT instead of a TE. If Brooks leaves Aldon would flip sides allowing Manny to line on the weakside which I always thought was the best spot for him at only 240. Note other starting SOLB in a 3-4 is under 250. Lawson’s issue was misuse not lack of talent or ability for scheme as many have foolishly believed.
Trade back
Highest probability to lowest probability
WR
OG
OLB
CB
DL
S

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