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Since it realy doesn't make sense to spend the 100's of millions of dollars on a new stadium. My recomendation is a remodel of Candlestick. Oh what am I hearing It's been proposed old news, it won't work. It's not only my option but the only real option. Will the fans be happy in Santa Clara? I say bad move. First off, Tailgating has become 70% of the game experience. Are you going to be happy in a 4 story behemoth parking garage barbequeing your franks and beans. I don't think so, but that is the 49ers plans for Santa Clara. Besides the amount of city and pg&e infrastructure that will be needed to be built and moved, it's just not cost effective. Here is my plan Tear Down the half of Candlestick added in the Seventies, add luxury boxes and a whole new half stadium. The 49ers have shown an interest in amusement parks, so why not bring the amusement park to them. Have a roller coaster that takes you to the upper deck. A zipper can be purchased cheap from some now defucnt amusement park placed outside. I would also reccomend the Double Ferris Wheel, would also be a great ride along with mabe some football helmet bumber cars for the small kids. The gun turret in the parking lot could be taken down, and the whole parking lot and run-off parking lots could be black-toped for a minimum cost. Double use, since highway 101 is a major trucking corridor the parking lot could also be used as a major Truck stop with gassing station and all the amenites. Maybe a partnership with the Sonics (the drive in restaurant) and weekly car show enthusiasts could also be beneficiary with the city to get full use out of the property. I would like to earge the York Family to explore these ideas before fully committing to Santa Clara and making a big mistake.

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lol

Niners,Nets,Reds & USC!!!

The Most Interesting Man In The World---->Mikhail Prokhorov!!!

by Kidd2Petrovic on Feb 21, 2012 1:54 PM PST up reply actions  

Well played.

We still have Harbaugh. So there's hope.

by grantmp on Feb 21, 2012 6:27 PM PST up reply actions  

who have been epic if you had the photo of them digging up Mt. Singeltary lol

"You know whats funny? I always thought uhm dogs lay eggs and I learned something new today" Peter Griffin

by HUNGRY HUNTER on Feb 22, 2012 1:15 AM PST up reply actions  

they already did that

it is gone
FOREVER

Forget Tebow
Andy Lee is the second coming of Jesus
-ME

by DAD OF VLAD on Feb 22, 2012 9:19 AM PST up reply actions  

TOO LATE FOR WHAT?

All that is a catapillar parked outside Santa Clara 49er headquarters?
Nothing has but paper, has been done.

by McCovey44 on Feb 21, 2012 1:34 PM PST reply actions  

actually...

$850M in loans based on a new Santa Clara stadium is happening so probably a little late on this.

by David Fucillo on Feb 21, 2012 2:13 PM PST up reply actions  

That is them already spending tens of millions starting the construction.

"You know whats funny? I always thought uhm dogs lay eggs and I learned something new today" Peter Griffin

by HUNGRY HUNTER on Feb 22, 2012 1:15 AM PST up reply actions  

Parking Garage?

Ever throw a football in a parking garage?
Anything beyond fifteen feet skipps off the concrete ceiling.

by McCovey44 on Feb 21, 2012 1:36 PM PST reply actions  

great america parking lot is pretty big, there is also the convention center across the street which has a fairly large parking lot, there is also the surrounding businesses which have huge parking lots that are empty on sundays except when the niners play.

parking garage can be used for people who work at the stadium and for people who do not tail gate. the parking garage is also pretty small.

"You know whats funny? I always thought uhm dogs lay eggs and I learned something new today" Peter Griffin

by HUNGRY HUNTER on Feb 22, 2012 1:17 AM PST up reply actions  

Not one footing has been Dug

for the Santa Clara Football stadium. How can it be too late?

by McCovey44 on Feb 21, 2012 1:43 PM PST reply actions  

But they have just torn up half of the team headquarters.

go drive by take a look.

"You know whats funny? I always thought uhm dogs lay eggs and I learned something new today" Peter Griffin

by HUNGRY HUNTER on Feb 22, 2012 1:18 AM PST up reply actions  

Too late
Anyone still doubting the likelihood of a new 49ers stadium need only visit team headquarters. Bulldozers and backhoes have been knocking down walls, laying down pipes and moving dirt in preparation for the 68,500-seat facility planned to go up across the street.

http://www.sacbee.com/2012/02/22/4281412/groundbreaking-on-49ers-stadium.html

by mikeinsp on Feb 22, 2012 2:26 PM PST up reply actions  

Half a stadium, 30,000 people waiting in line for a roller coaster

and it doubles as a truck stop in the bad part of town. Sounds so much better than having to put up with an evil parking garage.

We don't need 8 in the box. We have 52 in the box.

by these3words on Feb 21, 2012 2:14 PM PST reply actions  

Tailgating

I spoke with someone at the 49ers and there will be plenty of outdoor parking. Here is a layout of the area once the stadium opens. To the west of the stadium (just above where it says Great America Theme Park) you’ll see a huge parking lot. The four story parking garage would likely be available for parking as well, but that is actually connected to the convention center. So, no, tailgating will not be ruined by the new stadium.

by David Fucillo on Feb 21, 2012 2:33 PM PST reply actions  

I’m not buyiing it. 30,000 people waiting in line for a roller coaster. You ever hear of game day passes. I garuntee you people will get stuck parking in that parking garage. Candlestick Point is a much better and cost effective site.

by McCovey44 on Feb 21, 2012 3:14 PM PST reply actions  

you're not buying it?

So the monstrous parking lot isn’t going to make a difference? Some people will probably park in the parking garage, but this is a pretty sizable parking lot next to the stadium.

by David Fucillo on Feb 21, 2012 3:25 PM PST up reply actions  

there is also convention center parking not in the parking garage and there is plenty of high rise building with nobody parking there on sundays.

Plus the weather will be much better in Santa Clara.

"You know whats funny? I always thought uhm dogs lay eggs and I learned something new today" Peter Griffin

by HUNGRY HUNTER on Feb 22, 2012 1:22 AM PST up reply actions  

go to candel stick when tere are no games...........

"You know whats funny? I always thought uhm dogs lay eggs and I learned something new today" Peter Griffin

by HUNGRY HUNTER on Feb 22, 2012 1:20 AM PST up reply actions  

As Far as the part of the new stadium I’m not buying. You know alot ofpeople aregonna get stuck and have to park in the cement monster.

by McCovey44 on Feb 21, 2012 3:25 PM PST reply actions  

I don’t care what anybody says. The stadium site and stadium proposed for Santa Clara is WEAK!!!!

by McCovey44 on Feb 21, 2012 3:28 PM PST reply actions  

Too bad.

Done deal. Candlestick and that whole area sucks.

by Mindless on Feb 23, 2012 1:34 AM PST up reply actions  

It's like going to 31 flavors and ordering

VANNILA, dropping it on the floor and the cashier says you got to eat it. because you dropped it and you don’t half $2.00 for another ice cream.

by McCovey44 on Feb 21, 2012 3:30 PM PST reply actions  

I think he meant "have" instead of "half"

but still makes no cents. lol

"You know whats funny? I always thought uhm dogs lay eggs and I learned something new today" Peter Griffin

by HUNGRY HUNTER on Feb 22, 2012 1:20 AM PST up reply actions  

yea

I meant it doesn’t make sense otherwise

by David Fucillo on Feb 22, 2012 8:54 AM PST up reply actions  

so you ate ice cream off the ground before?

good to know

49ers 2012 Offseason: HELP WANTED at WR, DBs, & O-Line

by Giants49war on Feb 23, 2012 12:47 PM PST up reply actions  

no 3 second rule with ice cream

I imagine the cashier saying, “you have to eat it”
“Can’t I just throw it away?”
“EAT IT”

by mcwagner on Feb 23, 2012 12:56 PM PST up reply actions  

WEAK??? What could possibly be weaker than Candlestick?

Candlestick has been a politically-driven, poorly-located, horribly-designed, cheaply-built monstrosity since before it was even completed. It is the classic example of civic politics run amok … unfortunately, typically San Francisco … my home town.

The only surprise about the Santa Clara stadium is how long it took to abandon Candlestick … the sooner that the ’Stick is imploded the better!

by 49erFanSince1950 on Feb 21, 2012 5:00 PM PST reply actions   2 recs

What part of Remodel/Renovate Do You Not Understand

I just said that in today NFL world the PARKING LOT is almost as important as the stadium. Santa Clara doesn’t cut it.

by McCovey44 on Feb 21, 2012 5:32 PM PST reply actions  

How can SF provide better parking?

The situation is horrible compared to any stadium I’ve ever visited

by mrg80 on Feb 22, 2012 5:59 AM PST up reply actions  

As far as the 30,000 fans waiting for the roller coaster

HMMM let me see I could have a choice of roller coaster, or a Monstrous Cement Carbon Monoxide filled Parking Garage that I can’t have a barbeque in, play catch, and sit for two hours in carbon moxide filled air waiting to get out to street so I can get home. HMM……………………………………Let me see………………………………………….UMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMmHold on!!!!…………………………………………………………………..UMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM………………….I’m thinking!!!……………………………………………………….UMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM uh ROLER COASTER at least if the there is a line at the roller coaster I can take the escalator or stairs. I’ll take a pass on the Carbon Monoxide poisoning.

by McCovey44 on Feb 21, 2012 5:39 PM PST reply actions  

turn off your car then if you are in an enclosed parking garage!!!

"You know whats funny? I always thought uhm dogs lay eggs and I learned something new today" Peter Griffin

by HUNGRY HUNTER on Feb 22, 2012 1:23 AM PST up reply actions  

ummm

park outside if you want to tailgate, park inside if you don’t.

by mcwagner on Feb 22, 2012 6:56 AM PST up reply actions  

I took a look at the 49er provided map. What a bunch of sh**. That area looks nothing like that. All there is out there is Great America and their parking lot. I want to know exactly how many parking spaces Great America is willing to give up on Game Days, From what I hear the Parking Garage is slated for 10,000 cars. THEY ANTICIPATE 25% using mass transit. Where did they get that figure? Football is not hockey, basketball or baseball it’s a different breed of fans. There is no way that will ever work.

by McCovey44 on Feb 21, 2012 6:44 PM PST reply actions  

the reply button is free to use

it doesn’t cost a dime to use it and makes the conversation easier to follow

by mcwagner on Feb 21, 2012 7:47 PM PST up reply actions  

how many people tailgate?

even if 75% of the people tailgate there is plenty of parking not in the parking garage.

People usually go with more than two people in a car if they tailgate.

"You know whats funny? I always thought uhm dogs lay eggs and I learned something new today" Peter Griffin

by HUNGRY HUNTER on Feb 22, 2012 1:25 AM PST up reply actions  

so my conclussion

build a bigger parking lot in Santa Clara. That way you can go to the game and do what one does at the local park

by mcwagner on Feb 21, 2012 7:49 PM PST reply actions  

I am now 25 minutes away from the nEw Stadium

so i love it

Forget Tebow
Andy Lee is the second coming of Jesus
-ME

by DAD OF VLAD on Feb 21, 2012 9:50 PM PST reply actions  

What Stadium?

It hasn’t been built. To me the parking lot numbers look suspect. Whatevever I rarely go to tailgates anymore. I will say this rember to swap your footballs for frisbees and your barbeques for oxygen tanks if your planning on parking in the Monster Garage before the game.

SMELL YA LATER

by McCovey44 on Feb 21, 2012 10:16 PM PST reply actions  

so you want to slash the billion dollar project

that has taken years and approval from Santa Clara because of the size of the parking lot? Instead, make the Frankenstein stadium in a terrible location into a low-grade amusement park with fast food? Am I getting this right?

by mcwagner on Feb 22, 2012 6:48 AM PST up reply actions  

Dude, I don’t give a rats a** if they build it or not. My argument is Candlestick Point has a larger footprint, “area for parking and amenities” and is more football fan “Tailgater” friendly. First off I haven’t been to a game in about 8 years and I aint going to probably go to the new stadium. I watch them on television. And 850 million is alot to spend on 10 gautunteed dates a year. If your going to spend money like that you better make sure you do it right. Cause anything worth doing right is worth doing right the first time.

by McCovey44 on Feb 22, 2012 11:15 AM PST reply actions  

doing it right?
If your going to spend money like that you better make sure you do it right. Cause anything worth doing right is worth doing right the first time.

Much of your comments makes it seem like the 49ers got cold-called by Santa Clara a few weeks ago and thought they did want to invest in their stadium idea. This has been in the planning process for over five years. This is not some fly by night plan.

by David Fucillo on Feb 22, 2012 11:51 AM PST up reply actions  

el oh el

All you have are some half baked assumptions about the parking situation. I highly doubt your assumptions will remotely resememble how parking/tailgating will actually be implemented.

Also, what amenities are you talking about? Horrible delays trying to drive into the stadium? Paying $25 to park in some dirt lot a 1/2 mile away? Crappy buses from downtown? Zero bars, restaurants or other establishments? Pray tell. Reply button is right below…

by mrg80 on Feb 22, 2012 1:04 PM PST up reply actions  

the dirt will be black-top, roller coaster into the stadium, and Sonic burgers.

by mcwagner on Feb 22, 2012 2:04 PM PST up reply actions  

All I know is you are going to have a smaller Outside Parking area with a new stadium, And your A** is probably going to have to fit into a smaller seat too. What are the demensions of Candlestick Parks seats, My guess is your probably lose 4-5 inches off the width, so you know that diet you have been talking about, get to it. You can be sure the corporate suits in the luxury boxes will be livin large.
Maybe they don’t want Tailgaters, hey more money for concessions. Who Knows?

by McCovey44 on Feb 22, 2012 5:50 PM PST reply actions  

What are the size of the seats in the new stadium?

I’ll tell you my a** was in shock the first time I sat at Pac Bell Park. Plus I had 2 fat guys sitting next to me, I felt like I was in the Alaska Wilderness huddling together to keep warm to stay alive.
That is of course if your not sitting in the promenade section which gives you another three inches.
But I like the stadium, I mostely just buy a ticket and walk around the park anyways when I go. Or I sit in the bleachers.

by McCovey44 on Feb 22, 2012 6:50 PM PST reply actions  

did you cuddle with the two bears at pac bell like you would in alaska?

"You know whats funny? I always thought uhm dogs lay eggs and I learned something new today" Peter Griffin

by HUNGRY HUNTER on Feb 22, 2012 7:57 PM PST up reply actions  

No, I just made that up, because it was funny, unlike your comment.

SO HOW BIG ARE THE SEATS GOING INTO THE NEW STADIUM?
Are they bigger than a bread basket?
BET YOU WON’T ANSWER!!!!
Oh well I’m sure the stadium will be adequate.
I’m sure the field will look good on television.

BUT MY PROPOSAL WAS AWSOME!!!!!!!!
There is something about roller coasters and double ferris wheels that always fires me up.

I guess I just have 20/20 vision while the world wears bifocals-Writer of Cool Hand Luke

Smell ya Later

by McCovey44 on Feb 22, 2012 8:25 PM PST reply actions  

sadly; it is far from it though

"You know whats funny? I always thought uhm dogs lay eggs and I learned something new today" Peter Griffin

by HUNGRY HUNTER on Feb 23, 2012 10:05 AM PST up reply actions  

yeah

there is some stiff competition. I must admit I like these posts best. Makes me smile.

by mcwagner on Feb 23, 2012 10:06 AM PST up reply actions  

same here

"You know whats funny? I always thought uhm dogs lay eggs and I learned something new today" Peter Griffin

by HUNGRY HUNTER on Feb 23, 2012 10:07 AM PST up reply actions  

Now, I am really interesested. wWat are the width of the general seating seats slated for Adequate Park in Santa Clara? Who’s the Architec of the Stadium? I would really like to know.

Like I said, YOU ARE GAURUNTEED TO LOSE 4-5 INCHES OFF THE WIDTH SIZE OF YOUR SEAT, COMPARED TO YOUR SEAT AT CANDLESTICK!!!!!

CALL ME A LIAR!!!!

by McCovey44 on Feb 23, 2012 9:49 AM PST reply actions  

clarify

How do you know seats are guaranteed to lose 4-5 inches off the width size?

by David Fucillo on Feb 23, 2012 10:02 AM PST up reply actions  

wWat? lol

"You know whats funny? I always thought uhm dogs lay eggs and I learned something new today" Peter Griffin

by HUNGRY HUNTER on Feb 23, 2012 10:05 AM PST up reply actions   1 recs

see what you did there...

Niners,Nets,Reds & USC!!!

The Most Interesting Man In The World---->Mikhail Prokhorov!!!

by Kidd2Petrovic on Feb 23, 2012 12:12 PM PST up reply actions  

Have you tried calling the 49ers and asking them your questions? they do answer the phone

"You know whats funny? I always thought uhm dogs lay eggs and I learned something new today" Peter Griffin

by HUNGRY HUNTER on Feb 23, 2012 10:07 AM PST up reply actions  

just called them

they said they don’t even have the seats so that information is not available. They guaranteed me that they will be more than adequate and that they will not go through so much trouble to not give us a pleasurable experience.

by mcwagner on Feb 23, 2012 10:13 AM PST up reply actions  

doubt they would be smaller, i am sure they are going to have better cup holders though

"You know whats funny? I always thought uhm dogs lay eggs and I learned something new today" Peter Griffin

by HUNGRY HUNTER on Feb 23, 2012 10:16 AM PST up reply actions  

let us know what they say

To Reach the General Operator during Normal Business Hours…
Call: (408) 562-4949


Stadium Operations (parking)
Candlestick Park, Room 398
San Francisco, Calif. 94124
Phone: (415) 656-4949


new stadium info

look for the additional information link which has another phone number

"You know whats funny? I always thought uhm dogs lay eggs and I learned something new today" Peter Griffin

by HUNGRY HUNTER on Feb 23, 2012 10:15 AM PST up reply actions  

or email

ask49ers@niners.nfl.com
They want fan input. We are the customers. Better to find an issue now than when its all done.

by mcwagner on Feb 23, 2012 10:19 AM PST up reply actions  

How Do I know? Because the standard seat size on all new stadiums is Always 4-5 inches smaller than the Standard Seats from the Stadium Seating made in the Seventies. Although some of the baseball parks like in Wrigley Field tried to maximize space by making the seats small when they built the Stadium. Candlestick Parks seats by all standards is probably the biggest piece of stadium realestate of all stadiums in the country.

by McCovey44 on Feb 23, 2012 10:13 AM PST reply actions  

will you please

use the reply button? I have to take a drink everytime you don’t and I won’t be able to hold myself up any longer

by mcwagner on Feb 23, 2012 10:14 AM PST up reply actions   1 recs

link for that?

Do you have a link that actually says that? Given that you have been a bit off in your comments about the parking, I’d prefer to see some proof of that.

And please use the reply button when you respond to a comment.

by David Fucillo on Feb 23, 2012 10:16 AM PST up reply actions  

So expect to pay Higher ticket prices for a smaller piece of real estate to rest your a**.

by McCovey44 on Feb 23, 2012 10:14 AM PST reply actions  

higher prices is a guarantee for sure

"You know whats funny? I always thought uhm dogs lay eggs and I learned something new today" Peter Griffin

by HUNGRY HUNTER on Feb 23, 2012 10:17 AM PST up reply actions  

Like I said, I wouldn’t worry though I am sure the stadium will be adequate.

by McCovey44 on Feb 23, 2012 10:16 AM PST reply actions  

“Private will you point to the part of the marine Corp. Handbook that talks about Code Reds! "(the Private) “Their is no part of the marine corp handbook that talks about code reds”.

The answer to your question to how I know? Personal Experience. Actually after Pac Bell was opened I was a little facinated on the subject so I always take notes at everystadium I visit.

by McCovey44 on Feb 23, 2012 10:24 AM PST reply actions  

can you post your notebook?

"You know whats funny? I always thought uhm dogs lay eggs and I learned something new today" Peter Griffin

by HUNGRY HUNTER on Feb 23, 2012 10:37 AM PST up reply actions  

lol

"You know whats funny? I always thought uhm dogs lay eggs and I learned something new today" Peter Griffin

by HUNGRY HUNTER on Feb 23, 2012 1:36 PM PST up reply actions  

1 = ALL

Even though he’s comparing it to an experience at age 8 when the seat was much roomier

by mrg80 on Feb 23, 2012 10:56 AM PST up reply actions  

This post deserves to go in the Korey Sheets Fanpost Hall of Shame

"Our deepest fear is not that we are inadequate. Our deepest fear is that we are powerful beyond measure. It is our light, not our darkness that most frightens us"

by FearTheTree on Feb 23, 2012 11:01 AM PST reply actions  

Now to others that think that we are being a bit harsh on McCovey44

We know that he is a banned user making a new name. But at this point, this is too good to just delete like I considered. So don’t think that you are outwitting us, but I would always side with comedic gold.

by mcwagner on Feb 23, 2012 12:33 PM PST reply actions  

Wow, I was worthy of some research. I guess there must be some verocity and truth to my posts.

by McCovey44 on Feb 23, 2012 12:52 PM PST up reply actions  

you can not tell us he is a banned user without telling us the banned screen name! lol

"You know whats funny? I always thought uhm dogs lay eggs and I learned something new today" Peter Griffin

by HUNGRY HUNTER on Feb 23, 2012 1:40 PM PST up reply actions  

Like I said I rarely if ever go to the games anymore. I think the Santa Clara stadium will be Adequate. Am I exited about the design? Honestly No

Let’s just leave it at that,
Got new idea for a new post.
Good Luck with stadium

by McCovey44 on Feb 23, 2012 12:55 PM PST reply actions  

Do you think you will be able to smell Milpitas from the stadium????

Because that would suck… at least if Milpitas still smells like it used to. I admit I havent lived in the bay for 14 years or so know but I distinctly remember how bad Milpitas smelled….. It would be quite embarrassing if our new stadium had a home field advantage of Milpitas stink….. just sayin…. no pyrotechnics at the new stadium because of swamp gas…. and by the way, I am going to say it one more time:

Milpitas…..

by thatguywiththebeardandthebanjo on Feb 24, 2012 4:23 AM PST reply actions  

Thanks McCovey44

Because of your post I looked up the company that’s building the stadium. I’m actually encouraged after seeing some of there previous work. Check t out.

http://www.hntb.com/our-work/projects/san-francisco-49ers-stadium-bay-area-california

by Bravedown50 on Feb 26, 2012 11:14 PM PST reply actions  

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