NFL Combine Results: Stephen Hill, Chris Owusu, Travis Benjamin Run Fastest WR 40s
by David Fucillo on Feb 26, 2012 11:24 AM PST
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PrintThe most high profile day of the NFL Combine continues today with the running backs getting in their 40-yard dashes in Indianapolis. You can watch it live at NFL.com.
Given our discussion of potential wide receivers, I thought I'd pull out a few performances in the 40-yard dash from Sunday. Although the 40 only has so much value, and can often be overrated, it still gives us an idea of straight-line speed for players. No pads and not running routes removes a lot of the value, but for a Sunday in February, we'll take what we can get.
Georgia Tech's Stephen Hill, Stanford's Chris Owusu and Miami's Travis Benjamin all clocked in with the fastest 40-time at 4.36. Hill's fast 40 is not exactly shocking, given the speed and ability after the catch he showed at Tech. Hill played in a run-first offense, but still managed to make his mark. He finished the season with only 28 receptions (five touchdowns), but he averaged a ridiculous 29.3 yards per catch in grabbing 820 yards. One big question is whether he is more than a straight line deep threat, and if he will be able to get off the line consistently if cornerbacks jam him regularly.
Some of the talk today has also been about Baylor WR Kendall Wright. Robert Griffin III was talking about how the 49ers met with him and he had the sense they were as much interested in info he could provide on Wright as anything else. Wright ran a 4.61 40, but he is a guy that would appear to "play faster." A strong 40 would have helped his stock, but now it will be interesting to see if a not so great showing slips him down closer to the 49ers.
A guy that I really like outside the first round is Cal receiver Marvin Jones. He is not the specific deep threat the 49ers might need, but he has great hands, which is always a good addition. I don't think he is necessarily a guy the 49ers would be adding to become a number one receiver, but I think he could do some really good things at the next level. His draft stock could get a bit of a boost from his 4.46 40.
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These results should shake things up
There were some rumors out there that some teams had Kendall Wright as the highest rated WR, I’m guessing he drops a bit after this.
Stephen Hill probably made himself some money and may have run himself out of the picture for the 49ers. He’s got the best size and speed combination in the draft, that could lead to someone snapping him up early.
I can’t help it but I still like Mohamed Sanu, he’s got great hands and knows how to to go up and get the ball. His slow 40 time only confirms the general opinion that he lacks the explosiveness to get separation from good CB’s. I doubt he’s in consideration for the 1st round anymore, but I still think he can be a very effective WR in the NFL. I wouldn’t mind the Niners using a mid-round pick on him.
Hill does have some issues
But having the bare minimum athleticism to play WR in the NFL will not be one of them.
Aside from his 40 yard dash time, he performed well above the pack in the vertical and completely obliterated the broad jump. And I agree with OkayJay81 above that some things might be shaken up.
Some of these guys coming in from nowhere are performing well above the position average so everybody is going to have to scramble for tape of some of these guys to determine where they belong in context with what they already know about the more frequently mentioned names.
Every time Jamie Dukes says something enlightening and informative about football Jerry Rice and I mount up on our flying grizzly bears and claim pirate treasure from the moon. That's how often it happens.
Hill has a couple of circus catches too
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He seemed like the only possible big impact WR I saw today
For everyone else, is it worth spending the #30 on #2 or #3 WR (that’s hoping for the best)?
I’ve been high on Hill since the January and expected him to raise some eyebrows. I see some peoples thinking we can grab him w/ our 2nd round pick. If he keeps having showings like this at his pro day and workouts, we may have to take him at pick 30 if we want him. He’s got insane upside and his size and speed make him an instant deep impact forthe 49ers. I would be stoked to get this guy regardless of where we have to draft him.
Well we won't be able to get him with our second anymore
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Yeah
We might even have to trade up in the first to get him. You know the Pats, at least, have to be eyeing him as a future deep threat.
His stats aren’t quite as good as Demaryius Thomas’ were when he came out, but if anything his combine numbers may be even better. He won’t last far in the 2nd round if he gets there at all. I’d be in favor of drafting him at this point, even if we had to give up a mid round pick to move up a few spots and do it.
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by Smoke on the Water on Feb 26, 2012 6:06 PM PST up reply actions
I'd trade up...
I really think he has Calvin Johnson type upside. And with Jeffery not running, i think he just droped outta the 1st. Hill is the type of guy that would fit our offence perfectly.
Well there are some caveats with him
First of all you have to teach him how to run routes and I’m talking the very basics of how to execute a cut properly and how to show a defender what he’s expecting to see so you can take advantage of his reads.
This is a pure athlete that you still have to teach how to play football. If you think you can do that his ceiling is somewhere slightly below Megatron. If you fail, he will be responsible for many turnovers.
Given the trials of our WR corps I’m not sure that we are all that great developing wide receivers. Maybe we aren’t that bad at it and it really is mostly on the scheme, QB, and line — we’ve been pretty dysfunctional in everything we need to do to pass effectively.
Every time Jamie Dukes says something enlightening and informative about football Jerry Rice and I mount up on our flying grizzly bears and claim pirate treasure from the moon. That's how often it happens.
The Aldon effect
I believe that Harbaugh would take a little bit of the approach that they did with Aldon… We do have weapons on this team, so they could bring him along slowly… By having a former NFL player as the wr’s coach in Morton, a full offseason to mentor the kid, I think he’ll be more than ready by the start of the season… I don’t see no way this guy falls to 30… Teams simply won’t wanna look back and feel like they passed up on Randy Moss 2.0
by Last of a dying breed49 on Feb 27, 2012 7:28 AM PST via mobile up reply actions
I don't see Morton as having that good a track record
Given our continuous problems at the position.
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He's raw...
Yes. But it’s not like he was playing cricket. He played WR…. just in a run heavy system. He is well versed in deep and crossing routes and is a solid downfield blocker. Some aspects of his game will translate right away. Can he use some coaching? yes. But this is the same coaching staff that took a college LB and, w/ no offseason, converted him in to a starting FB. So, I trust this staff.
He pretty much only runs the go well
He’s running in the right lines for some of his deep digs and crosses but that’s about it. You have to sell those cuts with the right footwork and he’s as raw as someone who see’s the route on paper and decides to run it.
Every time Jamie Dukes says something enlightening and informative about football Jerry Rice and I mount up on our flying grizzly bears and claim pirate treasure from the moon. That's how often it happens.
What did Reuben from LSU run in his 40?
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by afrikabamboodle on Feb 26, 2012 12:16 PM PST reply actions
Can someone explain the unofficial/official times?
I’ve been told neither are really completely accurate because they won’t release the pure electronic times.
Basically, how much stock can we put into these times?
Unofficial is someone’s stopwatch on NFL Network. Official is the recorded time on with the setup equipment down on the field.
Just my two cents
I can’t understand why some people don’t trust the equipment out on the field as an accurate time. Is their some proven defect to it?
Its possible the equipment on the field timing these guys was built and tested for track. A lot of the kids at the combine don’t hold still like a track meet so they could be setting the timer off a bit early.
Another factor, and I have always believed this. When a coach knows he has fast kid he has inherent human bias to stop that watch a little faster. I think the field equipment is reducing a lot of human error no one wants to acknowledge.
I know for a fact a few guys started the clocks early.
I’d see them twitch and lo and behold both their unofficial and official times would be 1/10th higher than it should be.
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on Feb 26, 2012 4:01 PM PST up reply actions
Its possible the equipment on the field timing these guys was built and tested for track. A lot of the kids at the combine don’t hold still like a track meet so they could be setting the timer off a bit early.
Is this the case, the official equipment is designed to start tracking something such as a twitch?
That is what I am saying
Its track equipment but was built with more disciplined runners in mind. The Olympics is coming up this summer. Watch how long those guys have to stand still in their stance.
Not to mention the shortest track race is 100M. 1/10th of second is a bigger margin of error on a 40 yard sprint.
Okay, thanks for that explanation, bignerd
That makes a lot of sense.
Watch Doug Martin's 1st run. He moves ever so slightly and he ran 4.56
His second run he didn’t twitch he ran a 4.47
Kendall Wright’s 1st run he sat back in his stance minutely right before he took off and he ran a 4.45, I noticed it both times I watched his 1st attempt. It’s a no-no and the clock guy tells them the clock will start for it. The second time I only saw once but it looked like he actually stumbled a little bit starting off and ran even slower. I didn’t notice if he was stock still on the line for that one and only saw it once, but he was definitely off on that one.
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on Feb 26, 2012 4:18 PM PST up reply actions
And watch all the guys they actually stop for false starts
Most of the time it’s some little error thats cause the clock to start and they blow it dead.
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on Feb 26, 2012 4:21 PM PST up reply actions
Michael Floyd 4.47 40 ?? interesting...
I know he’s a good prospect WR with great hands. But I wasn’t expecting 4.47, was thinking more in the 4.5 range. Good for him..
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My personal preference would have required something spectacular to want him
He didn’t accomplish it.
Hill definitely impressed. He was a full 10th below what I thought he would run.
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on Feb 26, 2012 12:59 PM PST up reply actions
He doesn't play at 4.36
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by FearTheTree on Feb 26, 2012 12:59 PM PST up reply actions
Seeing Floyd's time makes me want him more
He’s a little faster than i expected plus he has great hands and size that would help us a whole lot
always respected his game; being a 'SC fan..
Now I wish he can last in the 2nd round for Haarbaalke…
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by Kidd2Petrovic on Feb 26, 2012 1:08 PM PST up reply actions
seriously how many prospects are in front of him?
Blackmon
Wright
Sanu
Jeffery
R.Randall
then next question how many teams are drafting WR’s in the 1st two rounds besides us?
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by Kidd2Petrovic on Feb 26, 2012 1:13 PM PST up reply actions
And arguably Wright
After his 4.61 40 today. (It was 4.61, right?) Although, that can change at his school’s pro day.
Yeh it was 4.61
If his pro day is better he may not drop much but i know teams are surprised by his combine being so slow
good for this franchise then I'll take him in the 2nd/3rd round...
if teams going to stay away because of his forty, just don’t want him in the first. To me always seems as a “quick/fast” guy. Always burning some CB in the BIGXII in all of his highlights…
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by Kidd2Petrovic on Feb 26, 2012 1:28 PM PST up reply actions
he's not going to fall to the second round
Even when you watch him running he’s going as fast as all but the fastest guys.
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on Feb 26, 2012 2:19 PM PST up reply actions
YAC
When you can average close to 30 yards per catch, that’s not too shabby.
by David Fucillo on Feb 26, 2012 1:31 PM PST up reply actions
Agreed. I posted tape of him earlier
He damn sure didn’t appear to be 4.36 with pads on.
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on Feb 26, 2012 2:18 PM PST up reply actions
Not much to go on
but I saw him catch the ball and run away from people. He looks fast on the highlights I saw him in
by Mr. Jesse From Anchorage, AK on Feb 26, 2012 3:12 PM PST up reply actions
BJ Cunningham
I like this kid out of Michigan ST. 4.47 Speed and he is 6-1 211 he can block and is very physical in running his routes. Has great hands also.
He is projected in the 3rd round
He ran a 4.47 so this probably elevated his stock a bit I say if he is there at 60 we grab him!
He also has a 31.5" Vert
Marvin Jones
As an avid Cal fan, Jones I thought flew under the radar throughout his college career, obviously due to his QBs. He showed plus agility, plus results in getting yards after the catch and good speed. Makes tough acrobatic catches, though will drop an easy catch from time to time. Became noticeably bigger from his Junior to Senior year. A lot like Mario Manningham in my opinion, will make a very good #3 or even very good #2.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MHGKzqjPAY0 – 42 yd TD vs Fresno State
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=REWJjJevLJM&feature=related – 23 yd TD vs Fresno State
Georgia Tech and Texas Tech it is!
Stephen Hill Georgia Tech 6’4 215 33 3/8 9 3/8" 4.30
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Owosu?
Did he move up any large amount with his 40 time and such?
by ChesapeakeBay9er on Feb 26, 2012 1:14 PM PST reply actions
did he return punts or kicks?
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by HUNGRY HUNTER on Feb 26, 2012 1:29 PM PST up reply actions
Yep
He was Luck’s #1 WR when healthy, which is a major concern (concussions, etc.)
Do you guys not live in the Bay Area?
Live in VA...but...
I know Owosu..CBS has him as undrafted and I know he played very will with Luck and for Roman and Harbaugh. I’m wondering if he’ll be around as a UDFA. Imagine us getting Stephen Hill, Marvin Jones, and then him at UDFA. That could be kinda nice in my opinion.
by ChesapeakeBay9er on Feb 26, 2012 1:52 PM PST up reply actions
Re: Owusu
Again, he has long list of injuries, particularly concussions, so that’s going to scare off a lot of teams. For that reason, I don’t see anyone drafting him until the fifth round, and even then not until the back end of it. Having played for Harbaugh and Roman, I expect Owusu will receive an appropriate scouting report from the 49ers and they’ll act accordingly.
Plus
You have Harbaugh who’s kind of miffed he didn’t take Doug Baldwin in the draft last year, another WR at Stanford. So you have that working in your favor.
Dont watch standford or college much
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by HUNGRY HUNTER on Feb 26, 2012 1:54 PM PST up reply actions
Ya
Im a big time stanford fan and was honestly hoping he’d retire. He’s great but he’s had several SCARY concussions at this point… Just worried about his long term post football health.
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by Smoke on the Water on Feb 26, 2012 3:39 PM PST up reply actions
Have to think he helped himself a lot
He might have had the best all-around combine performance of all the receivers. Finished in or around the top 5 in all the workouts. I don’t think he’ll get into the first round because of serious concussion issues in college, but you have to imagine the Colts will at least have to think a bit at the top of the second.
After a performance like this makes the prospect of keeping Luck and Owusu together must seem awfully enticing.
I think he's a sleeper 3rd-4th round pick
He can be a great WR… if he stays healthy.
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by Tim Lincecum's Bong on Feb 26, 2012 2:05 PM PST up reply actions
Nope because he'll never last 1 season in the NFL
His brain is more susceptible to be smacked than Jahvid Best’s
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on Feb 26, 2012 2:20 PM PST up reply actions
So maybe some team goes after him in the 6th
But his issue is well documented. Especially with him laying unconscious and motionless on the field for about 15 minutes the last time he was on a football field and being taken off in an ambulance.
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on Feb 26, 2012 2:22 PM PST up reply actions
he helped himself. I’m not sure with the concussion concerns that he’d even be drafted, but if he’s clear to play I wouldn’t be surprised to see him get drafted late. I like some other speed guys ahead of him, like T.Y. Hilton, but I could see the 49ers drafting him very late or signing him as an UFA.
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by nostocksjustbonds on Feb 26, 2012 3:20 PM PST up reply actions
Hill
makes me think we can just take the BPA at 30. And trade up in RD 2 to snag him. Of course assuming we do indeed grab a WR in FA before draft day. I would feel comfortable with the WR corps going into the season and beyond
And the BPA at 30 could be an absolute steal. After the first ten picks, anything can happen
by Dylan DeSimone on Feb 26, 2012 1:15 PM PST via mobile reply actions
Hills measurables are alot like Calvin Johnsons
and they went to the same school
I disagree
Getting Hill may take our #30 pick. I don’t see him lasting far into the 2nd. His upside is undeniable, even if he is a bit raw on the route running. I’d take him at 30.
Is anybody going to break down Wide Recievers that might be on the board at 30?
Can we get our hands on Kendall Wright or Michael Floyd? I wouldn’t mind getting one more first round Lineman to fill out our wall, but what if we can pick up another top notch reciever in the draft?
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Floyd and Wright will both be gone by 30
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Maybe Wright would be worth a trade up
Although I’m thouroughly against trading up, I do like what I see from this guy.
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by Pat Willie on Feb 26, 2012 2:10 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
receivers
We’ll have some breakdowns for that. I’ve kinda wanted to wait on more extensive draft coverage in part because free agency could so drastically affect it.
by David Fucillo on Feb 26, 2012 1:33 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Ok, Brian Quick...
sleeper pick for the later rounds if 1st two rounds go on the defensive side
Got a good grade: http://www.nfl.com/combine/profiles/brian-quick?id=2532933
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like how he goes for the ball in the air...
the QB there didn’t have a cannon for an arm but he went and “plucked” it out of the air. Plus like his size 6’ 4" 220lbs
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by Kidd2Petrovic on Feb 26, 2012 1:23 PM PST up reply actions
Me too
We need someone that has a good combo of size and speed not just one or the other. Thats why i like floyd so much but quick is prolly who we will end up with
this guy is also big and fast
Tommy Streeter Miami-Fl 6’4 1/2 219 34 3/4 9 1/2" 4.34 17
http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/players/1630465/tommy-streeter
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we'd have a McNutt with Crabs and VD lol
by sanfranfanmdk on Feb 26, 2012 2:12 PM PST up reply actions
Marketing dept
must be cringing at the possibilities
by jviet on Feb 26, 2012 2:12 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Draft 2 WRs Hill and either Streeter or Quick. All three are 6’4ish and fast. All three have decent grades(Quick has the highest out of the three) and can go up and get the ball. They may not make the biggest impact this year other than stretching the field for us. Over the next few years the 49ers will probably need to transition to more of a passing team and they could be the foundation of that.
That would be awesome.
Hill may cost our 1st pisk, but @ pick 30, I’d be down. Streeter seems to be in that 3rd round area…. we might have to trade up to get him.
I think the WR drills
will have far more importance than their 40 times as I keep hearing that while these guys may be straight-line fast a lot of them don’t have good fundamentals for being a top-quality WR in the NFL.
Straight line 40 time speed is overrated
Separation comes disguising the route and making clean, fast cuts. If I a guy is fast and can do those things he puts more pressure on the DB to keep up. If the WR is fast and cannot do these things those extra steps completely counter act the speed advantage.
2nd round stud. Good at everything. Great at a few things.
Average NFL athleticism. Technique guy. As Mayock said “fantastic body control” Catches the ball away from his body and has good hands. The combination of those 2 and his height and leaping ability makes him a great red zone, jump ball receiver.
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on Feb 26, 2012 2:26 PM PST up reply actions
I think he'll be kind of like Crabs has been so far
Solid, but not a gamebreaker
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by Smoke on the Water on Feb 26, 2012 4:00 PM PST up reply actions
He's Crabs but a not as good after the catch
but a better jump ball target… And quite possibly more reliable hands.
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on Feb 26, 2012 4:11 PM PST up reply actions
He's kinda what we were looking for in Braylon Edwards minus the elite athleticism.
With a great attitude.
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on Feb 26, 2012 8:33 PM PST up reply actions
Devon Wylie showed he could be a late round gem today
Saw a burst on routes, good ability to cut and some polish tracking and bringing in the ball.
He impressed too.
Also was impressed by AJ from Indiana
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on Feb 26, 2012 3:20 PM PST up reply actions
49er track record for drafting WR's is horrible !
Drafts years 2000 to 2011:
2000 = no WR drafted
2001 = Cedrick Wilson 5-10 / 180 lbs – 6th round
2002 = no WR drafted
2003 = Brandon Lloyd 6-0 / 185 lbs – 4th round & Arnaz Battle 6-0 / 215 lbs – 6th round
2004 = Rashaun Wood 6-2 / 200 lbs – 1st round & Derrick Hamilton 6-3 / 200 lb – 3rd round
2005 = Rasheed Mrshal 5-11 / 185 lbs – 5th round & Marcus Maxwell 6-4 / 205 lb- 7th roud
2006 = Brandon Williams 5-9 / 180 lbs – 3rd round
2007 = Jason Hill 6-0 / 210 lbs – 3rd round
2008 = Josh Morgan 6-1 / 215 lbs – 6th round
2009 = Michael Crabtree 6-2 / 215 lbs – 1st round
2010 = Kyle Williams 5-10 / 188 lbs – 6th round
2011 = Ronald Johnson 5-11 / 199 lbs 6th round
"track record"
Do you realize how much turnover the front office has gone through since 2000?
by David Fucillo on Feb 26, 2012 2:54 PM PST up reply actions
lol
He still thinks Donahue and Scotty McNolan are running the show.
"Our deepest fear is not that we are inadequate. Our deepest fear is that we are powerful beyond measure. It is our light, not our darkness that most frightens us"
So in that case we should never draft a WR?
"Our deepest fear is not that we are inadequate. Our deepest fear is that we are powerful beyond measure. It is our light, not our darkness that most frightens us"
never
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by HUNGRY HUNTER on Feb 26, 2012 2:57 PM PST up reply actions
Crown Royal made the liner for his suit? wtf?
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on Feb 26, 2012 3:21 PM PST up reply actions
Maybe
The average NFL success rate for picking WR is around 20-30%. I’m sure most teams draft record looks as bad as this.
Steelers have drafted Plaxico, Mike Wallace, Antonio Brown in the past decade
"Our deepest fear is not that we are inadequate. Our deepest fear is that we are powerful beyond measure. It is our light, not our darkness that most frightens us"
GM Balke drafted
Crabtree to high in the 1st round
Johnson was a bust
Yes…we need help evaluating WR , even today our track record, nothing to speak of
crabtree was the consensus #1 WR in the 2009 draft
31 front offices in this league would have taken Crabtree at number 10. The 32nd team is the Oakland Raiders.
Crab was a Mccloughan pick.
And while I’m a fan of Crab, judging from Baalke’s 2 drafts he would seem to be the type that would not like Crabtree due to lack of explosiveness. (Baalke seems big on measurables)
He did find kyle Williams in the 6th, who I think can be a very dangerous slot receiver providing he stays healthy.
Stay out of my territory
by DickGozinya on Feb 26, 2012 10:18 PM PST up reply actions
How can someone we took in the 6th round be a bust?
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by Tim Lincecum's Bong on Feb 26, 2012 10:22 PM PST up reply actions
They have also drafted
Limas Sweed, Dallas Baker, Willie Reid, Fred Gibson, Lee Mays and Danny Farmer in that same time.
..
Calvin Johnson, Lions (1,681 yards): 1st round (No. 2 overall)
Wes Welker, Patriots (1,569): undrafted
Victor Cruz, Giants (1,536): undrafted
Larry Fitzgerald, Cardinals (1,411): 1st round (No. 4)
Steve Smith, Panthers (1,394): 3rd round (No. 74)
Roddy White, Falcons (1,327): 1st round (No. 27)
Jordy Nelson, Packers (1,263): 2nd round (No. 36)
Brandon Marshall, Dolphins (1,214): 4th round (No. 119)
Mike Wallace, Steelers (1,193): 3rd round (No. 84)
Hakeem Nicks, Giants (1,192): 1st round (No. 29)
Dwayne Bowe, Chiefs (1,159): 1st round (No. 23)
Marques Colston, Saints (1,143): 7th round (No. 252)
Antonio Brown, Steelers (1,108): 6th round (No. 195)
Vincent Jackson, Chargers (1,106): 2nd round (No. 61)
A.J. Green, Bengals (1,057): 1st round (No. 4)
Nate Washington, Titans (1,023): undrafted
Steve Johnson, Bills (1,004): 7th round (No. 224)
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by HUNGRY HUNTER on Feb 26, 2012 3:02 PM PST up reply actions
they all have one thing in common, good qb’s throwing to them.
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by HUNGRY HUNTER on Feb 26, 2012 3:05 PM PST up reply actions
yes
"You know whats funny? I always thought uhm dogs lay eggs and I learned something new today" Peter Griffin
by HUNGRY HUNTER on Feb 26, 2012 3:10 PM PST up reply actions
cards and dolphins qb torched the niners secondary.
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by HUNGRY HUNTER on Feb 26, 2012 3:10 PM PST up reply actions
lol you're hillarious
we didn’t even play the dolphins and the cards did nothing but get 2 whiff tackles in the 2nd game
but the dolphins qb did what last year to the Niners? Remember that uber embarrassing loss?
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by HUNGRY HUNTER on Feb 26, 2012 3:18 PM PST up reply actions
When Carr came in and we went prevent?
Apples and oranges, regardless. If a couple games (with better receivers and a different defense) made a QB good, then you’d be crying about Alex a whole lot less.
And that has anything to do with Alex?
If you remember, David Carr played half of that game when he had a pretty big lead. (against Carolina)
"Our deepest fear is not that we are inadequate. Our deepest fear is that we are powerful beyond measure. It is our light, not our darkness that most frightens us"
It was a 3 point lead when Alex got hurt. An INT and Gore ran one home for a 10 point lead. Spencer and Brown couldn’t cover anyone the rest of the game.
Can't remember that game
Anywho, Moore sucks.
"Our deepest fear is not that we are inadequate. Our deepest fear is that we are powerful beyond measure. It is our light, not our darkness that most frightens us"
You aren't talking about Kellen are you?
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Now put them on our team with Alex
and I betcha our WR production increases Big Time
Just as easy said a great WR will make a Q.B. even better.
Why do you think the 9ers are STILL looking for that #1 WR….cause WE AIN"T GOT ONE
lol
crickets………………………………..
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by HUNGRY HUNTER on Feb 26, 2012 3:13 PM PST up reply actions
there are many people laughing; just take the ear plugs out.
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by HUNGRY HUNTER on Feb 26, 2012 3:18 PM PST up reply actions
The only receiver that's going to make Alex look better
is a Calvin or Fitzgerald type.
Alex is good at a lot of things, mainly his efficiency and intelligence but you’re never going to see him lead a unstoppable aerial attack,
Stay out of my territory
If I can throw to Calvin and/or Fitzgerald
I won’t look too bad. Those guys make an average QB awesome
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I still would like to trade down for more picks
I really don’t think there will be as big a run on WR’s as some people think. I’m very intrigued by Hill. What a physical specimen. When you get a guy with that size and speed, sometimes he has bad hands. It didn’t look like in the drills. His gauntlet, on both sides, looked very smooth. Catches away from his body, which I love. I think his tape will bring down his value to the 2nd round, I hope, and we can find a way to get him!
exactly
people seem to think the 29 picks before the Niners will all be wide receivers or something
by sanfranfanmdk on Feb 26, 2012 3:33 PM PST up reply actions
I'm not sure we need a wr early if we draft Fleener
VD has the speed to take top top off of a D
VD has the speed but he must be passed toooo
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by HUNGRY HUNTER on Feb 26, 2012 3:09 PM PST up reply actions
than other wr’s and tight ends would be open……………….
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by HUNGRY HUNTER on Feb 26, 2012 3:12 PM PST up reply actions
Just sayin if Fleener is as good as he looks
that we could use VD as our speed guy
Delanie Walker can catch the ball very well also
and seldom has the ball thrown to him
"You know whats funny? I always thought uhm dogs lay eggs and I learned something new today" Peter Griffin
by HUNGRY HUNTER on Feb 26, 2012 3:16 PM PST up reply actions
Delanie is just as fast as our slowest WR Crabtree
they both run 4.55 / 4.56 40
and delanie was the number wr and deep threat when troy smith was qb........
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by HUNGRY HUNTER on Feb 26, 2012 3:36 PM PST up reply actions
Delanie is faster than 4.55
And Crabtree isn’t our slowest WR, that would be Swain.
Stay out of my territory
All true, but ...
Delanie will be an unrestricted free agent in 2013 … and somebody is probably going to pay him more that the Niners will be willing to pay. Should be thinking about that now … not next off-season.
by 49erFanSince1950 on Feb 26, 2012 5:55 PM PST up reply actions
this.
Tight end is a difficult position to play, especially in a Harbaugh offense, so the 49ers need to be training young prospects in the system ASAP. If Fleener can get accustomed to the system in a year, that gives the 49ers options with Walker.
IMHO, there aren’t many roster spots open this year (which is understandable, given that the 49ers won 14 games). But one spot that it is open is #3/#4 TE in 2012, and #2 TE in 2013. The 49ers need to get a young prospect to fill that role.
the question is did he run?
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by HUNGRY HUNTER on Feb 26, 2012 3:08 PM PST up reply actions
ya, I do not think he ran.
"You know whats funny? I always thought uhm dogs lay eggs and I learned something new today" Peter Griffin
by HUNGRY HUNTER on Feb 26, 2012 3:09 PM PST up reply actions
he is probably slow.
"You know whats funny? I always thought uhm dogs lay eggs and I learned something new today" Peter Griffin
by HUNGRY HUNTER on Feb 26, 2012 3:11 PM PST up reply actions
not fat when he weighted in, yes. but before or after?
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by HUNGRY HUNTER on Feb 26, 2012 3:12 PM PST up reply actions
Rumor was he dehydrated himself to weigh in light
And was weak the next day
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on Feb 26, 2012 3:55 PM PST up reply actions
Baalke has his work cut out on this draft
it is deep at many positions this year. Would be a great year to have some extra picks.
"You know whats funny? I always thought uhm dogs lay eggs and I learned something new today" Peter Griffin
I think the Niners interviewed Robert Griffin III
Could the Niners make a epic move to get him? Could this be the end of the Alex Smith excuses era? Did they really interview him? Could all of our dreams of the Niners having a great qb again become true?
"You know whats funny? I always thought uhm dogs lay eggs and I learned something new today" Peter Griffin
This draft is deep in all of our weak eares
WR CB OL DL
WR is not deep
The entire class of height/weight/speed looks awful. Some value in the later rounds for complementary receivers.
DL promises to be deep but the 49ers already have a deep defensive line.
OL has some promise at guard but the 49ers also have some depth. What they really lack is a sure starter at RG.
Not sure about CB’s yet. Looking at the receivers its possible this class of DBs never had to cover anyone.
Did u see Cordy Glenn?
too bad he wont fall to us
Fleener in the first
Selemete 2nd
Crick 3rd
Quick 4th
Molk 5th
no clue after that
Iknow its just wishful thinkin
Ya
I dunno about him yet. Big and could move on drills but looked a inch away from falling on his face in a lot of drills.
One thing about this tackle class is most of them didn’t appear thick enough to play tackle. A lot of skinny guys who seem susceptible to a bull rush.
lotta skinny dudes
seemed like a lot of weak benches from th OL too
fixed
This draft is deep in all of our weak eares
WR CB OL DLQB
"You know whats funny? I always thought uhm dogs lay eggs and I learned something new today" Peter Griffin
by HUNGRY HUNTER on Feb 26, 2012 3:38 PM PST up reply actions
it was a quote^^^^^
"You know whats funny? I always thought uhm dogs lay eggs and I learned something new today" Peter Griffin
by HUNGRY HUNTER on Feb 28, 2012 11:05 AM PST up reply actions
No, No, Yes, No
I think QB evaluation will be thorough because that’s Coach H’s deal. But I don’t think there will be any real talks about what it would take to get a guy like him. He would cost way too much to move to #2.
You realize Harbaugh said last week that he was going to interview RG 3 to see why he didn't come to Stanford
And that’s what he asked RG during the interview.
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on Feb 26, 2012 3:56 PM PST up reply actions
do you have a link?
and if true what better way to disguise interest in a player?
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by HUNGRY HUNTER on Feb 27, 2012 12:27 AM PST up reply actions
I'm sure Harbaugh probably is interested in RG3
But so is every team without a franchise QB. It’s frankly totally irrelevant— he’s going to go 2nd in the draft, the Rams are going to ask for a king’s ransom for their pick, and the Niners won’t get involved in that kind of bidding war… Nor should they. I mean the cost to move up from 30 into the top 5 would be astronomical even if their werent any other bidders. We’d probably be talking about devastating at least three drafts just to move up for one guy. Not gonna happen.
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by Smoke on the Water on Feb 27, 2012 12:43 AM PST up reply actions
Niners have traded picks in the past and the last two seasons they have traded up. What they do not do is bid on players in free agency.
"You know whats funny? I always thought uhm dogs lay eggs and I learned something new today" Peter Griffin
by HUNGRY HUNTER on Feb 28, 2012 12:48 AM PST up reply actions
Everybody interviews everybody at some point
Doesnt mean anything
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by Smoke on the Water on Feb 26, 2012 3:58 PM PST up reply actions
Kinda true
Mos the 49ers interviews don’t mean anything. The guys they interview or bring in a week or two before the draft is typically who they are interested in.
Is there a limit to how many prospects a team can interview at the combine?
And to how many prospects a team can fly in for a workout for that matter?
I thought one of them had a 60 in it
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ANyone we could use as real trade bait?
Maybe sign Larry Grant and trade him?
He's not worth that much
possibly a very late second rounder if the niners tender him — the Giants and Patriots are both decimated at ILB right now — but that’s unlikely. The fact is, inside linebackers are not valued by front offices. Grant has shown promise, but smart money is on him riding the bench this year behind Willis and Bowman.
Do the niners have any other trade bait? Bowman is a possibility, given his ridiculously small salary. But I imagine Fangio would explode if Harbaugh took his all-pro LB away from him, same goes for Justin Smith and Patrick Willis. On offense, Staley or Boone could be attractive trade bait, and If the niners shopped CK7, he might get a few suitors for the right price. But overall, it doesn’t look like the 49ers have that much trade ammo, in terms of players or picks.
Curious question...so Crabtree reportly runs an est 4.55 - 4.56 40 time
if he were in this 2012 draft ….does he get drafted in the top – middle – bottom of the 1st round or even possibly fall into the 2nd round?
yeah your right crabtree woulda been a second rounder
I think that’s where he shoulda been all along
"Winning means being unafraid to lose." – Fran Tarkenton
His draft class was better than this. After the top four 2012 gets sketchy.
He’d still be a Top 15 pick. Should have been 15-20 pick in 2009.
Who in your opinion is a better WR than Crabtree in this draft?
In other words has a good chance to be our #1 WR over Crabtree
Just Blackmon
Stephen Hill put himself on the radar as a down field play maker but I doubt he will ever catch for volume.
Was Kendall Wright actually that good
or was it RG3 making him look good?
To me he looked decent today
I’m going to say this now. Don’t expect a #1 WR in this draft class where the 49ers are picking. Hope to get a #2 or #3 at best. Likely there are 2-3 WR picked on the 3rd day who are as good or better than any of candidates at #30.
He was moving way faster than his time
And he looked as advertised in the drills. The guy with the starting clock got him on both runs.
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on Feb 26, 2012 3:58 PM PST up reply actions
With his film coming out of Texas Tech
His accolades, I think he would be vying for the top spot with Blackmon. Remember, in 2009 Crabtree was considered the best WR prospect since Megatron.
I bet my adopted Television Commentator has four more home runs than yours
"It is not enough that we win; all others must lose" -Larry Ellison
"I come up with something when I’ve got nothing, and it’s always brilliant. Always. So I reject your logic." -Grant
Well in that case
I think he’s a late 1st, early 2nd guy. He could still prove to be a great player. But he’s just not been worth 10th pick.
He would still be vying for the top spot with Blackmon. He’s in a run-heavy offense without all that many deep passes thrown to anyone. I’ve always believed that Blackmon and Crabtree are virtually the same player. They have similar height, weight, wingspan, leaping ability, and speed. What they don’t share in common is the fact that we don’t know how well Blackmon is going to do in the NFL. They both torched quality teams in the NCAA and won the Biletnikoff award twice. The only players to ever have done that. Aside from being two years older than most of the other prospects, I still think Crabtree would be either the 1A or 1B WR in this draft. He had nearly 900 yards this past season in a run-heavy offense in the NFL. He’s a known commodity.
I bet my adopted Television Commentator has four more home runs than yours
"It is not enough that we win; all others must lose" -Larry Ellison
"I come up with something when I’ve got nothing, and it’s always brilliant. Always. So I reject your logic." -Grant
But is that commodity as a play maker, a game changer or simply a chain mover
Me myself I feel Crabtree has proving only to be a chain mover or 2nd WR type….he has not to date proven to be either a play maker or game changer which #1 WR are best known and feared for.
Crabs has the talent
He just seems to be lacking the drive
I think if we get another big WR, and Crabtree makes it to training camp, then between the two of them they can push for the starting job. Crabtree hasn’t really had any competition.
Before his injury, Josh Morgan was pushing Crabtree to be our top WR
Yes, Josh was playing better than Crabtree.
And by the way, of all the F/A WR's out there...the very first one 9ers should sign
is our own Josh Morgan.
Josh was off to a impressive season before his injury and I think Josh is just now starting the peak of his Career
My current 49ers draft crush list
Stephen Hill WR, Ga. Tech (OMFG does he have the raw skills. Al Davis is currently trying to rise from the dead, just so he can trade everything he has to draft this guy).
David Wilson, RB, Va Tech (Seems like he needs to work on his pad level but I love his speed and instincts)
Whitney Mercilus, DE, Illinois (people said Aldon Smith was a one year wonder too)
LaMichael James, RB, Oregon (yeah, he’s small, but he’s also fast as lightning and tough as nails. He’s gonna make an impact in this league some way, somehow.)
Coby Fleener, TE, Stanford (want to see how he runs, but if he times well I think we’ll start to hear Jason Witten comparisons… And they won’t be unjustified)
Andre Branch, DE, Clemson (all the tools to be an excellent replacement for Ahmad Brooks, IMO)
Not included because they just definitely won’t be there when the Niners pick: Courtney Upshaw, Andrew Luck (duh), Justin Blackmon, RG3, David DeCastro.
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by Smoke on the Water on Feb 26, 2012 3:55 PM PST reply actions
Hill
I’m with you on Hill. I think his stock is going to rise up a little bit, but I still think we will be able to get him.
I'd love to get Hill, for a number of reasons ...
Of course I like his size and speed. But beyond that, realize that he picked Georgia Tech for the ACADEMICS … he is a very bright young man … coming out after his junior year because he has already earned his degree. But perhaps the most amazing part is that he is just beginning to learn how to be a receiver … here are his CAREER stats:
22 games started
49 receptions for 1248 yards
9 TDs and a 25.5 yds/reception average
I have to believe that Morton (Niners receivers coach) would love to get his hand on this guy! It may take a while, but Hill will become an outstanding receiver in the NFL … I just hope that it’s for us.
by 49erFanSince1950 on Feb 26, 2012 6:44 PM PST up reply actions
True.
GT runs the ball like 80% of the time so it’s hard to evaluate Hill on fim. But MAN!!! I was thinking this guy could sneak into the early 2nd round w/ a good showing. He was better than good today. His showing reminded me of VD in 2006. I think he may be our #3o pick and I would consider that a reach. He could be a day one starter considering his size speed and ability to go deep.
I don't think that it's a reach anymore ...
In my recent mock draft, I had us picking him at #45 after trading down from $30 to pick up another 3rd round pick. However, after yesterday’s display … not only his speed, but his route running and a couple of great catches … I’m now convinced that he won’t last that far. Also remember that his BIGGEST job in Tech’s triple option offense was to BLOCK … but then Harbs would hate that part (… that’s a joke!). I believe that this kid has absolutely everything you look for in a potentially great WR except … experience. He’s just getting started and should be ripe for the molding. I just hope that he’s still available when we pick at #30.
by 49erFanSince1950 on Feb 27, 2012 8:37 AM PST up reply actions
Fleener chose not to run cause he's slow.
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on Feb 26, 2012 3:59 PM PST up reply actions
Or because he's still recovering from that high ankle sprain
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by Smoke on the Water on Feb 26, 2012 4:01 PM PST up reply actions
Lol ya, he’s eager to fall lower so he can make less money and platform Harbaugh.
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by Smoke on the Water on Feb 26, 2012 4:10 PM PST up reply actions
*play for Harbaugh. Damn autocorrect.
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by Smoke on the Water on Feb 26, 2012 4:11 PM PST up reply actions
But I think at least a few of them will be there. I just don’t know which ones (neither does anyone else)
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by Smoke on the Water on Feb 26, 2012 4:02 PM PST up reply actions
I'm willing to venture a guess ...
IF they do not trade down, which I think is a distinct possibility, I believe that the Niners pick at #30 will be one of these four guys (listed alphabetically):
OLB Vinny Curry (Marshall) 6’3" 263 4.74
TE Coby Fleener (Stanford) 6’6" 247 4.77 (2010)
WR Stephen Hill (Georgia Tech) 6’4" 215 4.36
OG Kelechi Osemele (Iowa State) 6’5.5" 333 5.36
by 49erFanSince1950 on Feb 26, 2012 6:29 PM PST up reply actions
Unless its somehow miraculously DeCastro, I’d be pretty surprised if our first round pick were an o lineman
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by Smoke on the Water on Feb 26, 2012 8:17 PM PST up reply actions
Bottom Line...do 9ers need another big body WR or a speed WR more?
maybe a guy like WR Hill would fill both?
They need a big body guy for 3rd down and goal line attempts. They need a speed guy to stretch field. The things Edwards and Ginn Jr. didn’t provide last season.
Hill is probably a speed guy.
big and fast but can not catch?
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by HUNGRY HUNTER on Feb 28, 2012 11:05 AM PST up reply actions
Niners need a playmaker
A true No. 1 WR threat. If you add that guy and suddenly Crabs and Morgan are in the second and third receiver roles, the whole offense looks a whole lot more respectable. That kind of receiver can come in all shapes and sizes— he can look like Steve Smith, Larry Fitzgerald, or TO in his prime. Long story short, he needs to be able to get open and make the defense pay if they don’t account for where he is on every play. I think Hill at least has a chance to be that kind of guy, which is why he currently tops my wish list.
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by Smoke on the Water on Feb 26, 2012 4:17 PM PST up reply actions
They need an X
We moved Crabs to the Z last year and wanted Braylon for the X but it didn’t work out.
I’d also grab a guy to groom for the Z.
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Is this how everyone see's 9ers 2012 WR roster?
*Crabtree
*Morgan
*Ginn
- Draftee
- F/A
So basically, Crabtree-Morgan-Ginn return plus two new WR’s on 53 man roster?
I really hope Morgan comes back
Im not sure on Ginn. I also think Williams will probably be back too.
I’d guess it’s: Morgan, Crabs, K. Williams, high draft pick or big money FA, later draft pick or Joe Hastings
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by Smoke on the Water on Feb 26, 2012 4:23 PM PST up reply actions
After the smoke clears....why do you think Joe Hastings
we end up on our 53 man roster?
How many teams invest heavily in 5th string receivers? Clearly the Niners coaches liked him for developmental purposes. He’s got good size and can block and help out on ST. As a 5th stringer, why not?
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by Smoke on the Water on Feb 26, 2012 4:29 PM PST up reply actions
Don't see Ginn as a key part of the receiving corp ... MAYBE kept (for the right price) as KR/PR
- Free agent … somebody like Garcon
- Crabtree
- Morgan
- Rookie … hopefully Hill
- Williams
by 49erFanSince1950 on Feb 26, 2012 6:34 PM PST up reply actions
I’ll take Moss, Morgan, Crabtree, Williams, and Hill. I’d also trade up to get Kelechi Osemele.
Gonna make the WR position relevant again? When?
Don't want Moss' attitude.
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on Feb 26, 2012 8:35 PM PST up reply actions
You mean lack of effort.
Attitude isn’t important at all. If a guy is unstoppable and has a horrible attitude I would not care one bit. However, quitting on patterns when you aren’t the 1st read is not what we need at this time.
If we want an old veteran receiver who will come cheap and produce, his name is Terrell.
Stay out of my territory
Symantics but I suppose yours is more accurate terminology.
His bad attitude leads to his lack of effort but if he could still burn a secondary anytime he chose to it might be different. Since he’s not that guy anymore he would be a horrible distraction when he started bitching and quitting on routes.
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on Feb 27, 2012 2:36 AM PST up reply actions
I am swallowing Alshon Jeffrey crow, he’s a second rounder unless he runs at his proday
Gonna make the WR position relevant again? When?
I’m sure he’ll run, but how many guys could he really leapfrog at this point? Hard for me to see a scenario where he cracks the top 5 WR drafted, and it would be shocking if more than 5 guys went in round 1
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by Smoke on the Water on Feb 26, 2012 9:27 PM PST up reply actions
Stephen Hill
- Blazing speed
- Great hands
- 6’4
If the 49ers don’t get him at #30 they’ll regret it. Apparently they didn’t interview him either.
Don't think we drafted any of our interview targets last year.
Every time Jamie Dukes says something enlightening and informative about football Jerry Rice and I mount up on our flying grizzly bears and claim pirate treasure from the moon. That's how often it happens.
Tommy Streeter
Solid performance at the combine.
If the 49ers don’t get a WR in the 1st, they should get Streeter in the 2nd or 3rd.
He’s 6’5 and ran a 4.4. would be an excellent fit.
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