Colts Hire Greg Manusky, Former 49ers Defensive Coordinator
Yesterday, the Indianapolis Colts hired their first defensive coordinator since Week 12 of this past season, making Greg Manusky the guy under head coach Chuck Pagano. Now, Manusky spent last season with the San Diego Chargers and Vic Fangio just coached our San Francisco 49ers to the fourth-best defense in the NFL (stat-wise), so this news isn't especially pertinent to us, but Manusky was with the team for four years.
Surely that has to count for something? At any rate, I think it's a decent, if uninspired hire by the Colts. I was actually hesitant to see Manusky go this past offseason, mostly because he's always been, at the very least, competent. His bend-but-don't-break style got on the nerves of many folks here, but I always liked a lot of the things he was able do. After all, he was considered a strong up-and-coming head coaching candidate. But then Mike Singletary happened, and things went to hell.
In short, I'm pretty darn happy with Vic Fangio. But there's something else to note, something that struck me as odd when I went over to Stampede Blue, our Colts blog. There was someone there who said they'd rather have Steve Spagnuolo or Mike Singletary as their defensive coordinator. The user said that Mike would have been a better hire, and the link is right here. I just thought this was pretty interesting, especially coupled with the fact that I've heard fans of other teams talk about him like he's some great coach. Misunderstood is a term I've heard.
Every single time I tell these people that Singletary is a terrible coach, they just sort of say he wasn't ready, neglecting the fact that the guy was so far beyond "not ready" that it was laughable. He didn't even try to do things a coach is supposed to do, and he's a man who is so set in his ways that I doubt he ever will. I just think it's an interesting topic for discussion. Would you ever trust Mike Singletary as your head coach?
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Sing
may do well in college where he can motivate them. I can’t believe I drank that kool-aid and thought we would do well with him. Makes me hesitate when I root for someone based on pure fandom.
Manusky was fortunate to be hired by the brother of his former assistant.
He isn’t a bad coach, but the way the 49ers defense was elevated transformed under Fangio proved that all the complaints and frustrations of past years were true.
Plus the numerous personnel upgrades across the board on that side of the ball.
"I believe in you guys in the media. I believe that you will find a way to doubt this team. Just as long as what's written is written against us we'll be happy." - Jim Harbaugh
by SanFranciscoKnights on Feb 3, 2012 9:45 AM PST up reply actions
True, but
players are playing much better and are more effective than past years. This must mean they are better coached.
Oh, for sure
Vic gets some credit there but the position coaches are a night and day upgrade as well, like not even close lol
"I believe in you guys in the media. I believe that you will find a way to doubt this team. Just as long as what's written is written against us we'll be happy." - Jim Harbaugh
by SanFranciscoKnights on Feb 3, 2012 9:57 AM PST via iPhone app up reply actions
Plus....unfortunately
V. Davis and Frank Gore have alluded to the players being “afraid” of Singletary and scared to death of making a mistake. Jimmy Raye stated that he called the plays Mike dictated. And it finally comes out that Alex was forbidden, repeat – forbidden to change a play at the line of scrimmage. If I had not read that last one, I would not believe it. How can any QB be ordered to never change a play. That is insane. But that was Singletary. Singletary is, I believe, a very decent and good human being – and christian (which is all good). He is not now, or ever will be, Head Coaching material. And Manusky called what he was told to call as well because Mike is a stubborn and very pig-headed person – 3 yards and a cloud of dust on EVERY first, and second down. What’s that about!
Im happy with Fangio
some people seem pretty critical of him but I think he did a very decent job this year. I would definitely take Fangio over Manusky every day of the week.
There goes their 3rd down defense
Manusky seems to run a pretty good 1st and 2nd down defense but always gives up the 3rd down conversion.
Peter Principle
Says people get promoted to the level of their incompetence.
Sing was fine coaching linebackers and could maybe even be a defensive coordinator but was so totally out of his depth as the head guy. He couldn’t trust his assistants which ultimately doomed him.
Can’t see how he gets another head job.
"It's impossible to hide the fire inside" - Bob Seger
Sing is a great motivational speaker
and tremendous watcher of film.
As for actual football mechanics, terminology, scheming, game-planning, etc- not so much.
Seems like a good dude but I wouldn’t want him anywhere near the coaching staff of a team I was a fan of.
It's hard to say "never"
But I can say I would never want Sing as a head coach. NEVER.
I think he could do well enough in a focused position, with very specific responsibilities, but he showed no aptitude for managing other people or a team effectively. He was totally lost. I can understand a new HC having some shortcomings from lack of experience, but Sing was so far out of his league it was beyond the pale.
Plus there are even stories coming out of Minnesota that are put Sing in a not very favorable light even as just a positions coach. Not sure he really has the will to put in the work he needs to put in to become a truly excellent coach at any position.
THUMP
thats me falling on the floor up hearing sinlgetary and coach in the same sentence
by Moflush on Feb 3, 2012 11:23 AM PST via mobile reply actions 1 recs
Sing
could (in the operative sense) do alright as a DC, but not as a HC. Of course, it didn’t help that the OC staff position was a revolving door when he was here. I will say that Raye was somewhat better than Nolan promoting Hostler to OC that 1 season, though i’m not sure by much.
The idea that spagnuolo
is out there without a job as a d-cordinator baffles me. as for singletary as a defensive co-ordinator or even head coach, well, any front office that decides to make that move deserves all the mediocrity that will inevitably come their way. His ceiling is as a LB coach.
Stampede Blue wants Singletary as a coordinator?
That’s pretty rich considering BBS called him a bum on there and then came over here to reiterate it.
the site
It was a specific user over there, not BBS.
by David Fucillo on Feb 3, 2012 3:58 PM PST up reply actions
Singletary is a heck of a motivator
and he did instill a mantra of toughness that I think our defense fully absorbed. He also cracked Vernon into what he is today…how many coaches could have tamed the VD?
Toughness and discipline coach yes. Head coach or coordinator absolutely not.
Sing
First off let me say I love the dude. Seriously. He called out VD, dropped his pants in the locker room and was the ultimate bad ass as a player. He represents everything I like about football players. I will even go so far as to say he is an amazing motivator. He is not however a man who I would trust to formulate a plan. If we were storming the beaches of Normandy I would want him talking up the marines as they were going to charge. I would not want him to be the one formulating the plan on how to win the world war.
There was never a in game adjustment that worked. For that matter there wasn’t even a change in the seasonal tactics as we were losing five games in a row. He had a plan that was unimaginative at best and he stuck to it till the bitter end never capable or even wanting to change it. He had a one track mind in press conferences, personnel evaluation, and game planning. I am convinced there is a level of the game that he doesn’t even know exists.
That is not the type of guy you want running your D. It is the type of guy you want coaching your line backers. He needs to focus on the area of the game he understands and attack that with the passion that made him one of the best linebackers in the history of the game. He is an incredible person who set a goal for himself and destroyed it. His passion and obsession are his strengths, his ability to analyze the game on the fly, develop strategies and manage all the off the field aspect of the game are not.

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