Stevie Johnson to SF?
by Champion49 on Feb 3, 2012 3:19 PM PST
Email
PrintFor the 49ers, their offseason started right after Lawrence Tynes kicked the game winning field goal at Candlestick two Sundays ago. There are many flaws that one could draw from the game, third down conversion rate, lack of red-zone appearances etc. But i think we all know the biggest flaw. The wide receivers. Kyle Williams obviously is getting the most scrutiny but his mistakes were made on the special teams side of the ball, not the offensive. Michael Crabtree is getting a lot too, and i think he deserves some of it. But how can a wide receiver deliver mind boggling stats when he is targeted under 10 times?
San Francisco's biggest concerns this offseason are obviously the receiving corps, and, get ready, their defense. Yes their defense. When a team has this good of a year they should always try and improve it or at least maintain it. The 49ers MVP Justin Smith, is really their only defensive concern for age, but don't be surprised if Harbaugh takes another lineman or linebacker in the early rounds.
As for the receivers. The draft can never prove to be that helpful therefor the niners must look to get big help from free agency. They made that attempt last season by signing Braylon Edwards. We all know how that turned out. Here are all of the free age wide receivers available, with potential ranking and probability of signing 1-10.
Potential 7-Reggie probably only has one or two more solid years.
Probability 5-The Colts will probably look to re-sign him, either for a good target for Luck or for obvious reasons with Peyton.
Potential 9-Wes is a perfect fit for the 49ers. Good hands, quick and a smart veteran.
Probability 3-No question that the Pats will re-sign him, especially after leading the league in receptions.
Potential 8-Although i think Wayne is a better receiver than Jackson, i think Vincent has at least 4 more years left.
Probability 7-The Chargers aren't very high on the Rivers horse. Don't think Jackson is their first priority either.
Desean Jackson
Potential 7-I'm not that big with Jackson, too cocky for me. He's sure fast though, niners could use a deep threat.
Probability 7-Most people would say never just because he's so young. But he's a pain in the ass when it comes to contracts. I don't think he'll end up in San Fran though. I don't think Jim Harbaugh needs another Crabtree.
Potential 8-Of all the receivers so far i think Bowe has the best future. He's strong big,moderately fast, and i think he's reaching his prime. An asset that the 49ers don't posses what so ever besides VD.
Potential 8-Colston's big. Wow. Great hands too. Niners could use him he's a solid receiver (with Brees at the helm). A few question marks with him.
Probability 5-I think the Saints will sign their MVP and his #1 target, they both like the DOME.
Potential 8-A strong #2 or #3 target. Good fit for the Niners. Good mix of speed and hands. Also only in his 4th year.
Probability 8-I think Harbaugh likes this kind of player. A lot like Crabtree but Johnson is used to middle-of-the-pack QB's with Fitz.
Potential 9-Yes. I think Lloyd is a solid #1 guy. Although he is a little old. Led NFL in receiving 2 years ago.
Probability 8-It's going to be interesting. I can say one thing very confident. Lloyd will end up in the NFC west. But where?
Potential 7-Meachem is just a playmaker simple as that. We all say the Brees-interception-Meachem-strip-return-for-touchdown play a few years back. 49ers need another playmaker.
Probability 6-There is a great probability that Meachem leaves NO this year. Signing Colston and Brees is their biggest concern, but landing in SF, doubtful. But hey if i told u before this season the 49ers would end up second in the NFC would u call me crazy?
Potential 7-True definition of Dark Horse. After dropping the potential game winner in week 10 at the Stick, Mario caught the take-the-lead score late in the game. Good deep threat as well.
Probability 7-Like Meachem, Manningham i think will leave his team this offseason only if, they lose the Super Bowl. The Giants i think will try to keep their "Jet Blue" corps if they win though.
Potential 10-The stat potential is the potential in the 49ers offense, in this case Wallace fits perfectly. True speed demon. Wallace also comes from a similar offensive scheme in Pitt, smashmouth football.
Probability 7.5-The offseason is going to be interesting in Steelerville this year. A lot of questions after they got TEBOW-ED! One true question. Does Wallace want out?
Other players:
Early Doucet (ARZ)*
Harry Douglas (ATL)*
Eric Weems (ATL)
Roscoe Parrish (BUF)
Legedu Naanee (CAR)
Earl Bennett (CHI)*
Roy Williams (CHI)*
Andre Caldwell (CIN*)
Jerome Simpson (CIN)
Eddie Royal (DEN)*
Rashied Davis (DET)
Maurice Stovall (DET)
Bryant Johnson (HOU)
Pierre Garcon (IND)*
Anthony Gonzalez (IND)
Jerheme Urban (KC)
Devin Aromashodu (MIN)
Bernard Berrian (MIN)
Greg Camarillo (MIN)
Deion Branch (NE)*
Matt Slater (NE)
Domenik Hixon (NYG)
Devin Thomas (NYG)
Plaxico Burress (NYJ)*
Derek Hagan (OAK)
Chaz Schilens (OAK)
Steve Smith (PHI)*
Jerricho Cotchery (PIT)
Patrick Crayton (SD)
Braylon Edwards (SF)*
Ted Ginn (SF)*
Josh Morgan (SF)*
Mike Sims-Walker (STL)
Micheal Spurlock (TB)
Donnie Avery (TEN)
Kevin Curtis (TEN)
Lavelle Hawkins (TEN)
Donte' Stallworth (WAS)*
*-Legit potential prospects who fit at least one attribute of the 49er criteria and could make a difference.
Theres a lot of questions in the 49er passing game. Luckily, the NFL and the NCAA have a lot of answers. I think the 49ers should spend their first round pick on SCAR WR Alshon Jeffery, and pick up a "vet" to lead the charge. Of all the top receivers available i think the 49ers should press the hardest to reel in:
1. Dwayne Bowe-DB's talent is going to absolute waste in KC with the horrendous QB situation. Bowe can catch, run the deep ball relatively well, and is nearing his prime.Now I'm not saying Alex Smith is gonna make Bowe a pro-bowler. No. Jim Harbaugh will. Crabtree will. Alex Smith needs him. Harbaugh needs him. Michael Crabtree needs him. The 49ers need him too.
2. Mike Wallace-Don't get worked up for him, but it would be amazing for him to land in SF. Welker would too but the odds of that happening are so low. The 49ers lacked a spark this year. Well mo-hawked Wallace has that.
3. Steve Johnson/Brandon Lloyd- I put these two together because they both posses the same skill set. Good hands, moderate speed, and at least a few years under their belt. The better prospect for the 49ers is Johnson. Years younger and getting better. But take in to play that Lloyd spend his first three years in the NFL with the Niners.
4. Mario Manningham-A microscopic edge over Meachem here. I give Mario the edge because win or lose, Manningham will be coming off a Super Bowl appearance, so that should provide some confidence, which is what he lacked for most of the season.
5. Robert Meachem- Like Wallace, Meachem is an offensive spark. He's fast and like Manningham and Wallace he has played in a Super Bowl. 49ers lost the big game primarily from special teams and poor wide receivers. In their biggest game, the WRs flinched. Well theirs three free WR who have all played in the biggest game.
Alternate- If the niners end up with none of these players (GOD FORBID) i think a smart and beneficial alternate is veteran Deon Branch. Ya feel me? Deon won the Super Bowl, Super Bowl MVP, he's smart and he can make this team better.
I'm really high on Bowe or Wallace and their talents, but i don't know about the odds of them landing here
Prediction:
49ers will re-sign some WRs and then they will pick up Steve Johnson.
(Vote for who u think will, comment who u most want to or any other suggestions)
Thank you for reading.
This is a FanPost and does not necessarily reflect the views of Niners Nation's writers or editors. It does reflect the views of this particular fan though, which is as important as the views of Niners Nation's writers or editors.
101 comments
|
1 recs |
Do you like this story?
Comments
I would be happy to get any one of those guys but I think the Niners really need a dominant number one receiver. In my eyes, Dwayne Bowe is the best choice. These are the receivers I would like to see the Niners head into the season with:
Dwayne Bowe, Michael Crabtree, Josh Morgan, Kyle Williams, Ted Ginn and either Juron Criner or Ryan Broyles out of the draft.
Ideally, I would like to see Bowe as the #1, Crabtree as the #2 and then let Morgan, Williams, and Criner battle it out for the 3rd spot. Both Morgan and Criner are big body WR’s so it would be cool to see Crabtree in the slot when they are in three receiver sets.
Williams
I think williams is a perfect slot guy maybe #4. But u dont think Broyles will go earlier or that they wot pick Jeffery. Jefferys a deep threat whereas Broyles is a possesion wr who gets lots of receptions an area thr 49ers dont exactly accel at.
by Champion49 on Feb 3, 2012 11:28 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
Id rather see Williams in the slot and Crabtree in open space.
Williams made plays in the passing game.
I am not an Alex hater, I'm an Alex apologist hater. Now you know. -Mr Moses
In all this cut Williams due to punts non-sense
Everyone seems to have forgot Kyle Williams was our most explosive player. He just wasn’t on the field until later in the season because Braylon Edwards hadn’t yet been cut.
by asmithisaverage on Feb 7, 2012 5:44 PM PST up reply actions
Kyle Williams was NOT our most explosive player.
That would go to VD.
Kyle Williams played nice this year, but he’s not a great WR.
Wow, why doesn’t this comment say, he is a second year WR in a system with no offseason, he could be great, he needs a full camp in this offense?
I am not an Alex hater, I'm an Alex apologist hater. Now you know. -Mr Moses
Doesn't strike me as having the tools or ability of a #1 or #2 wideout.
Which is what your’e implying by saying he could be great.
What does Alex Smith have to do with this?
I’ve never said I thought Alex Smith could be great either.
I'm just trying to figure out where you come up with this stuff
"It all depends on the quarterback."
---Jerry Rice
Hmmmmmm, he can make difficult catches, get behind the defense and turn a 5 yard bitch route to 6. Don’t let the OC’s inability to use his weapons, fool you. How often was Williams crossing underneath Davis when he was donors deep? 0 the one time they tried Alex threw a bad pass that would have been 6.
I am not an Alex hater, I'm an Alex apologist hater. Now you know. -Mr Moses
Yeah williams is good
he’s just very overshadowed for his fumbles.
KW was far more explosive than VD
no idea what you are talking about. VD scored touchdowns with power and athleticism, he doesn’t catch the ball in space and out run everyone. Kendall Hunter is the only one close to KW in explosiveness.
by asmithisaverage on Feb 8, 2012 7:28 PM PST up reply actions
There's more that goes into explosiveness other than being fast.
Far more that goes into other than that. VD is definitely the more explosive player. The mismatches he gets allow him to use his size and athleticism to bring down balls, then his elite TE speed to go the distance.
He showed all of this in spades during the playoffs, or did you not watch?
Explosiveness is the ability to get upfield quickly.
Williams = #1
I am not an Alex hater, I'm an Alex apologist hater. Now you know. -Mr Moses
and to make a big play out of nothing
“turn a 5 yard bitch route to 6.”
Bowe or Stevie
If the Chief don’t franchise tag Bowe, then I could see us going after him. He’s ideal due to his size, age, speed, and production. If he’s not available, I could see us making a run at Stevie Johnson. He’s from the Bay area, and would probably be interested in being a 49er anyways.
I’m not sure if a whole lot of WR’s would have interest in our current offensive system, due to the limited amount times we involve the receivers in the passing game. Hell, most of the season we were under-utilizing VD and went many games without even throwing the ball Delanie Walker. It will be a tough sell for free agent WR’s.
[only built for cuban linx]
Yeah,
Thats why i think maybe a vet Lloyd or Branch are good. Expirienced and they would be a little more satisfied with fewer receptions.
by Champion49 on Feb 3, 2012 11:30 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
stevie would be are #1if we got him
faster than crabs and morgan, and runs good routes.
definitely
I heard his 40 time is filthy.
by David Fucillo on Feb 4, 2012 3:09 PM PST up reply actions 3 recs
DB’s talent is going to absolute waste in KC with the horrendous QB situation.
lol
"And thank you to God for making me an Atheist." - Ricky Gervais
by MichaelClutchtree on Feb 4, 2012 3:51 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
I don't see any point bringing in a deep threat WR
when we don’t have a deep threat QB. I want a difference-maker in the mid-range game.
If I’m Baalke I go after Dwayne Bowe with a contract offer that has limited incentives, but makes up the difference by being heavily guaranteed (since he’s a fairly proven player and I don’t think he has any work ethic concerns) and give him the sales pitch about filling the biggest need on a team that just came within overtime of the Super Bowl. If he doesn’t bite (or if he gets franchised) then Stevie Johnson is next in line, with lower guarantees of course.
We don't need 8 in the box. We have 52 in the box.
Kansas City fans
Joke about what special tactic the coaching staff is going to try to use to motivate Bowe next year — the same way they’ve done every year.
Every time Jamie Dukes says something enlightening and informative about football Jerry Rice and I mount up on our flying grizzly bears and claim pirate treasure from the moon. That's how often it happens.
I think so too
But it’s an additional risk tied to that much money.
Every time Jamie Dukes says something enlightening and informative about football Jerry Rice and I mount up on our flying grizzly bears and claim pirate treasure from the moon. That's how often it happens.
Could be
But I hope even if we bring in a FA that we go to the receiver spot twice in the draft.
Every time Jamie Dukes says something enlightening and informative about football Jerry Rice and I mount up on our flying grizzly bears and claim pirate treasure from the moon. That's how often it happens.
Jones and? :-)
I know you are a big fan of Marvin Jones (as I am and a few others) who else are you looking at?
by ChesapeakeBay9er on Feb 5, 2012 1:11 PM PST up reply actions
I'm not Ougadas, but I'd really like one of the Arkansas WRs.
I think drafting Joe Adams in the mid rounds makes Ted Ginn expendable. Greg Childs could potentially be picked up as an UDFA and he has mad potential, just had a lingering injury during his senior year.
My WR Pick (along with Jones)
would be Streeter.
by ChesapeakeBay9er on Feb 5, 2012 1:40 PM PST up reply actions
Considering we're talking later round guys
Gerell Robinson if he’s there in the 5th.
Greg Childs or Jeff Fuller if either are there in the 6th.
I’d take a flyer on Jared Green in the 7th.
Several guys I’d love to have but would require spending multiple higher round picks on the position and while I’d like to come out of the draft with 2 WR prospects I’m not putting that much draft capital into it.
Every time Jamie Dukes says something enlightening and informative about football Jerry Rice and I mount up on our flying grizzly bears and claim pirate treasure from the moon. That's how often it happens.
Would you (or anyone)
take Owusu at UDFA?
by ChesapeakeBay9er on Feb 5, 2012 1:47 PM PST up reply actions
I would be
But he’d have to be pretty special in camp to get by the concerns with the concussions he’s piled up.
Every time Jamie Dukes says something enlightening and informative about football Jerry Rice and I mount up on our flying grizzly bears and claim pirate treasure from the moon. That's how often it happens.
I agree. Even a potential #1 or #2 WR in FA isn't enough.
Still need to spend a draft pick or two (preferably 2) on our WR corp that has neither depth or a consistent playmaker.
Swain and Hastings need to remain on the practice roster.
by Mapletreemarty on Feb 6, 2012 10:58 AM PST up reply actions
Swain is a FA and not PS eligible...
He will not be here next season.
by 9thevolution on Feb 7, 2012 10:57 AM PST up reply actions
If they take two in the draft
Potentially that means that we have 3 spots filled. And then crabtree. So what happens to Ginn, Williams, Morgan etc?
Yeah
He was threatened with a mid-season trade (likely to an even worse team) at the trade deadline a couple years back and he stopped half-arsing it, they brought in Kurt Warner to give pep talks another year and that seemed to work, and this year was his contract year.
Maybe he wouldn’t need it here, Kansas City is a dump and Haley is notoriously hard to work with, but I just can’t bring myself to put that much moneys worth of trust in a guy that can’t motivate his-self. There are plenty of guys in places like Buffalo and Cleveland and Cincinnati under management just as bad that don’t need special motivation to put in the effort.
Every time Jamie Dukes says something enlightening and informative about football Jerry Rice and I mount up on our flying grizzly bears and claim pirate treasure from the moon. That's how often it happens.
Stevie Johnson for 1
And Johnson would be much cheaper and if he was productive and we wanted to keep him for his career we’d get a hometown discount.
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on Feb 6, 2012 11:28 PM PST up reply actions
And we already put up with the dropsies
From receivers with less big play potential. If we could get him at a reasonable price — like everyone else.
Every time Jamie Dukes says something enlightening and informative about football Jerry Rice and I mount up on our flying grizzly bears and claim pirate treasure from the moon. That's how often it happens.
I think his price is the most reasonable of any of the potentially marquee guys.
I think Johnson has the potential to be a Miles Austin type for a much smaller paycheck. A strong #1 and elite #2. He’ll want some money but he won’t demand marquee dollars. Dwayne Bowe IMO is going to want to be paid close to the top 5 guys at his position. He obviously can’t demand what Fitz and Andre Johnson are getting especially in guaranteed money or what Calvin Johnson will be getting with his extension… But I can definitely see him asking for Steve Smith, Miles Austin, Brandon Marshall are getting paid.
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on Feb 7, 2012 10:20 PM PST up reply actions
He actually matches up with Miles Austin pretty well physically aside from vert
Miles 6’02.1" 215, 4.47 - 40 1/2" vert, 3-cone 7.09, 20 shuttle 4.14 32 1/2" vert, 3-cone 7.07, 20 shuttle 4.26 — Stevie has a better 10 second split than Miles too.
Stevie 6’01.7" 210, 4.46 -
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on Feb 7, 2012 10:26 PM PST up reply actions
I'd fix it but screw it.
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on Feb 7, 2012 10:27 PM PST up reply actions
That difference in the vertical is pretty big...
That 8 inches is the difference between catching one over the defender or him batting it down/getting an INT. Would also make a difference if we want to run “the catch” where it’s either the receiver getting it or it’s out of the end zone.
Still an upgrade over what is currently on the roster though.
by 9thevolution on Feb 9, 2012 12:17 PM PST up reply actions
I think Stevie didn't perform his best at the combine. He was running 4.4s before it consistently and ran a mid 4.5 at it. Then ran mid 4.4s again at his pro day
I have a feeling he might have snuck another inch or two in if he’d jumped again.
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on Feb 9, 2012 2:50 PM PST up reply actions
Alex smith can throw the deep ball
We saw it in the championship game. He overthrew kyle williams for what woulda been a 60 sum yard td
Yep, he can throw it far, just not all that accurately.
He most definitely hit a few sideline throws in the playoffs that were very impressive. He just needs to continue improving, but the deep ball isn’t his strength.
"I believe in you guys in the media. I believe that you will find a way to doubt this team. Just as long as what's written is written against us we'll be happy." - Jim Harbaugh
by SanFranciscoKnights on Feb 5, 2012 2:01 AM PST up reply actions
Indeed. Alex Smith's deep ball leaves some to be desired.
If we could have legitimate deep threat to help him out though, that would be incredibly nice.
Williams can get behind the defense but our offense doesnt call for that to happen much.
It’s easy to see that isn’t Alexs strength, so why call the plays?
I am not an Alex hater, I'm an Alex apologist hater. Now you know. -Mr Moses
Yes but he can't throw screens either
what other passes are off the table?
by asmithisaverage on Feb 7, 2012 6:28 PM PST up reply actions
I think they are poorly designed.
I am not an Alex hater, I'm an Alex apologist hater. Now you know. -Mr Moses
Really?
Cause he doesn’t throw a good check down pass either.
by asmithisaverage on Feb 7, 2012 8:06 PM PST up reply actions
I would greatly enjoy seeing Stevie Johnson play on the niners. He would bring a much needed skill set to the team. His contract also would be manageable. To top that off he is a bay area kid.
by Tdubzord on Feb 4, 2012 10:50 PM PST via mobile reply actions
I said the exact same thing up top lol
…but i’m with ya bruh!
[only built for cuban linx]
by Mighty Healthy on Feb 4, 2012 11:51 PM PST up reply actions
He also brings an attitude
which i like. Some people see him as a bit crazy, but he gets excited to play big time CBs and make them look bad.
by asmithisaverage on Feb 6, 2012 2:41 PM PST up reply actions
I want Bowe, but don't think they'll sign a big name WR
Steve Smith (Eagles) is an ontriguing option. He was one of the best possession WRs in the league before microfracture surgery on knee. Barely played this year, so not sure if he is at (or can get back to) 100%. Apparently he wants to sign with the Giants but I highly doubt they take him with the WR corp they have and the way he left them which pissed the team off. He would be a perfect, “move-the-chains” type of player and we could probably get him for relatively cheap…but whether he can get back to his “old” self is a big question mark.
I’d be really surprised if Jeffrey is available at #30, regardless of his stock dropping because of speed concerns. WR is becoming a more valuable commodity in the league and I bet the 49ers end up taking a DB, RG, or best available. I don’t see them reaching for a WR. Besides, the 49ers need a WR that can make an immediate impact like Bowe or Colston can; they can’t afford to wait for 2-3 years for a WR to develop. Of course, this all depends on who they do/don’t re-sign in the offseason.
If they can’t land a big name WR, I wouldn’t mind them signing Garcon or Royal AND taking a chance on Steve Smith (Eagles). None of their current WRs are elite, but they are pretty solid (I’m talking about Crabtree, Morgan, and Williams). One more upper-tier WR would really make the offense more dynamic. They also need to upgrade the right guard position; someone who can run block AND pass block which would go a lomg way toward helping Smith get the ball to his WRs and if he had one or two upgraded targets, we probably have good shot at the Super Bowl.
Keep the D intact and upgrade the WRs and right guard and I’ll be a very happy 49er fan!
by Liquid Pantyhose on Feb 5, 2012 8:48 PM PST reply actions
devon wylie
fresno state…not a big guy but quick as heck….and returns punts as well….as for free agents i don’t think we’ll spend big on one….like last year i hope we wait it out and see who’s left out there…. we’ll most likely get a much better deal on someone that would fit US and not the other way around..
Punt returning
isn’t the problem, Ted Ginn usually does it, as we know, but he HAD to be injured at the most inopportune time
ted ginn...
is a free agent and might not be back with the team…IF he is back then we wont need a returner..
Vincent Jackson easily if healthy.
Alex doesn’t have the arm to utilize a talent Wallace or Jackson. Bowe I like but might be a nut case and Stevie Johnson I have absolutely NO interest in. Colston, Manningham and Meachem are all good options while still not preventing us from going after a high round pick on WR. Still VJ, VD and Crabs would fit our physical style I feel the best.
Vernon ran a 4.3 at the combine.
He overthrew Kyle Williams 55 yards downfield who runs a 4.3. He overthrows slow ass Crabtree. He definitely has enough arm to throw to Wallace or Jackson.
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on Feb 6, 2012 11:29 PM PST up reply actions
This is what I don't understand...
People say we need a QB who can throw it downfield, so they clearly did not watch any games this year. We need for our QB to improve his accuracy and touch on downfield throws or we need a WR like Wallace who can run fast enough to get to the overthrown pass.
by 9thevolution on Feb 7, 2012 11:00 AM PST up reply actions
DWAYNE BOWE!!!!!!
Big, Strong, Powerful, Good Hands!!! I say we sign this guy ASAP as our #1 WR !!!!
and then draft the following:
- - Coby Fleener TE Stanford – Make it impossible for teams to double VD ever again!!!
- - Kevin Zeitler OG Wisconsin – This dude is a mauler to take Chilo/Adams OL spot
- - George Iloka FS Boise – Big – Fast – Hard Hitting – Can play either S spot but will be OLB in NFL
- - Jake Beguette DE/OLB Ark – The bookend for Aldon and allow Justin to move around
- - Chris Greenwood CB Ala – Fastest CB currently available in draft (pre-combine!!)
- - ChristianThompson – CB/S Montana – played FS in college but has the ability to play Corner at next level
- - Taylor Hart DT Oregon – This guy is a tackling beast with a motor that goes 24/7/365 – I had read that they figure him to be a Rookie FA but I’d grab him here to ensure we get him in SF!!
Fail
1st round pick on a TE with Davis and Walker, I pass.
I am not an Alex hater, I'm an Alex apologist hater. Now you know. -Mr Moses
It really depends on what is there
The 49ers already run 3 TE sets and could create mismatches with CBs. Simple fact is Alex Smith likes to throw to athletic TEs because he trusts them to make adjustments and fight for the ball.
by asmithisaverage on Feb 7, 2012 8:08 PM PST up reply actions
wr, cb, safety, and OL are positions that nees upgrade based on our next year schedule while considering how the team wins
The offense will still face 8 and 9 in the box and pressure will remain on Alex and gore. WR need the defense to back the hell up.
I am not an Alex hater, I'm an Alex apologist hater. Now you know. -Mr Moses
WR and CB talent probably won't be there at 30 looking at the mocks
and are we really going to spend another first round pick on the OL? Kilgore might be ready to step up or possibly Anthony Davis slides depending on if he can hold off Alex Boone.
by asmithisaverage on Feb 8, 2012 7:25 PM PST up reply actions
Well that depends
If we aren’t just joking about wanting to be a power running team, then yes, you draft for the line until you are dominating in the trenches.
If you are bad at drafting linemen, or just terribly unlucky at drafting linemen, you plans fail, and you keep getting to make those mistakes at higher pricepoints.
Every time Jamie Dukes says something enlightening and informative about football Jerry Rice and I mount up on our flying grizzly bears and claim pirate treasure from the moon. That's how often it happens.
Exactly. Harbaugh had Gerhart when he showed up and he built Stanford around the line
He got the best line recruits he could and he got the #5 rated QB coming out of HS. The line helped turn Gerhart into a 1700 yard guy and turned Andrew Leaf into the most overrated prospect ever.
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on Feb 9, 2012 2:53 PM PST up reply actions
(It's also easier to build around the Line at Stanford than around skill positions)
The guys on the line are generally your smartest guys along with the QB. Hard to get skill players that meet the STUDENT athlete criteria of Stanford
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on Feb 9, 2012 2:55 PM PST up reply actions
Wouldn't his suggestion to sign Dwayne Bowe handle the WR position?
He upgraded every position you just mentioned through the draft and FA, and added a better receiving TE for Smith to throw to. Realistically, that draft strengthens the team quite a bit and immediately makes us dangerous on offense.
by 9thevolution on Feb 9, 2012 12:23 PM PST up reply actions
We dont have D Bowe money!
I am not an Alex hater, I'm an Alex apologist hater. Now you know. -Mr Moses
Yup Bowe is talking 5 years 45 million minimum
And probably wants 35 million guaranteed
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on Feb 9, 2012 2:56 PM PST up reply actions
http://nfltraderumors.co/chiefs-rumors-matt-cassel-dwayne-bowe/ and that’s the offer he’s suggested to the Chiefs to stay. He’ll want more on the open market
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on Feb 9, 2012 2:57 PM PST up reply actions
Got to agree with you on this.
TE is one of our strongest positions. I’d probably rank it OL, WR, CB, Safety in order of need.
Who's got it better than Honey Badger? Honey Badger don't give a ....
Kaepernick's raw talent + Harbaugh's coaching = Hall of Fame QB
No to Bequette.
As I’ve said before, I don’t think he’s versatile enough. There’s better options at multiple positions in the 4th round.
TE definatly not
TE was our strong position. Drafting a talented TE would just be more money with very little payoff.
Very good investment actually...
If our WRs are not talented overall, the QB throws better over the middle and to his TEs and the head coach runs a lot of multiple TE sets, even splitting them out wide at times, why is it a bad investment to get a talented pass catching TE to pair with Davis?
Keep in mind, Walker is no longer primarily a TE; he’s a utility player who’s listed as a TE. He is also in the last year of his contract and there is no guarantee he returns. I will say though, it’s very likely he re-signs here even if he’s relegated to being the 3rd TE; despite the fact that he could start for more than one team as their primary TE.
by 9thevolution on Feb 9, 2012 12:30 PM PST up reply actions
no
the mock draft has us drafting about 4 dbs which wwe dont need. and we dont NEED 2 good TEs. vernon is good and walker can get it done. Take a WR for sure. the more the merrier
Good observation
Yes the fact that Walker may not be back after 2012 makes the Fleener pick even more valuble to help keep double teams off of VD!
by NorCalFaithful on Feb 19, 2012 10:05 AM PST up reply actions
Draft 1 sign 1 FA
I definite think we should draft a WR in the first round. The only problem is that we have the 30th pick, by then its almost draft the best available because the guy you really wanted isn’t there (Alshon Jeffery or only in my dreams Justin Blackmon). I also think Malcolm Floyd and Kendall Wright will be gone. Who will be there will be Mohammad Sanu, and since I went to Rutgers, i would be happy with that pick. Other then the draft, we definitely need to get Bowe or Stevie Johnson. They might not want to play with a QB like Alex but seriously, who wouldn’t want to play for Jim Harbaugh! I think whoever the guy Coach Harbaugh decided to talk to, will be wearing a niners jersey in 2012
I also wouldn’t mind the niners drafting a OG in the first round if the right guy is there to fill the right guard position. Need a beast to put next to Anthony Davis who seems like he’s still trying to reach his potential.
Davis will never reach his potential as a tackle cause his kickslide sucks
So move up. Take Konz. Play him at guard for a year or two, then move him to center and slide Davis to guard and play somebody else at Tackle.
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on Feb 9, 2012 3:00 PM PST up reply actions
Alex > Cassel and Fitzgerald
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on Feb 9, 2012 2:59 PM PST up reply actions
whitner
I hope Donte had a good relationship with Stevie out in Buffalo and can woo him to SF next year.
by chipat86 on Feb 8, 2012 8:49 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
Comments For This Post Are Closed
Secondary Sidebar
User Tools
Related FanPosts on Niners Nation
FanPosts
Community blog posts and discussion.
Recommended FanPosts
Recent FanPosts
In Association With
Shutdown Corner - NFL - Yahoo! Sports
- Former high-school star Brian Banks does serious time on trumped-up charge, now hopes for an NFL shot
- Former ‘idiot kicker’ Mike Vanderjagt in trouble after accosting junior-high heckler
- Adrian Peterson blows teammates away in footraces; appears to be on the mend
- UPDATE: Charlie Sheen didn’t buy Lawrence Taylor’s Super Bowl ring
- Alex Smith gets blown up by Jon Beason over Cam Newton comments
