Official Draft NN Draft Thread

I feel like the Patriots will actually trade up to acquire him though

1st and 3rd by the chart takes us up to 24. Then there is another 60 points between 21 and 24. But I WANT Konz. He makes great adjustments to protections, he’s athletic enough to get out front and lead like a near side pulling guard and he can absolutely road grade in the run. Very good in pass pro also.

Another example is JPP. He didn’t get drafted based off his USF stats alone. He got drafted cause he was racking up 25 sacks at the JuCo level as a frosh/soph. Haven’t seen this guy. Guess I’ll have to find some HLs

I don’t like trading up that far for Konz. We won’t be able to get there with just a 3rd rounder. Not only do we have to make the points add up but we also have to consider that there are multiple teams that are going to be wanting this guy around the #20 to #25 range and the team that offers the sweetest deal to the highest team will get him. So you also have to put in the bidding fee.

We’re going to have to be patient and hope he falls a bit further if we want to move up.

I really like Harrison Smith but if we go his way we still have to find someone with the range to play deep center if Dashon goes down or in Dime packages.

I hadn’t heard about Hamilton. He looks good. I’m curious how he matchup up in his short time at the BCS level. If he did to BCS level linemen what he did to the guys on that highlight reel, then he immediately jumps to a second round grade in my book. But that’s a big if. He really looked like a man among boys on that reel and some of those tackles were so laughably horrid it wasn’t funny. But even against that poor competition the first step was there, multiple moves were demonstrated, the explosiveness to the quarterback after shedding was there — he’s one to keep an eye on.

But to me, Konz is the only immediate impact player in this draft. He’ll play RG but I wonder when Goodwin leaves if he would play C and Kilgore take over RG. Wherever Konz plays he’ll be a huge boon to the offense.

Smith will be blocked by Whitner for the next two years but could become a good strong safety (don’t get me wrong, I like the pick). The other thing about Smith is he’s phenomenal on Special Teams. If we draft him and we keep Costanzo, Jones, Spillman, Gooden, etc., the 49ers could have the best Special Teams unit to ever play the game

Don’t know much about the other picks outside Rainey, who’s a returner at worst, or a scat-back who can play the slot at best. He’d be worth a late rounder if Ginn doesn’t return.

My draft strategy, would not allow a tradeup for Konz. Mainly because we know on defense teams HAVE to pass, so I’m looking to get better play makers in the DB field. Dual threats with return skills to push Williams to 4th on the depth chart for punt returns. A shame the team played so well and came up short of the bowl and have to pick 30th. I for one propose to trade back and try to acquire 3 2nd round picks to pick up 2 dbs and an interior lineman or, LaJames from Oregon. We don’t have enough homerun threats to capitalize on either a gaping hole or a missed tackle.

Snyder is coming back, which makes the OL less of a pressing need (not that it’s not a need). You can get Guards later in the draft, too. Plus, trading up to get a Guard is a double sacrifice; you get a player that’s not guaranteed to be of higher value than a guy that could be picked later plus you lose the pick.
The real reason that I don’t like the trade-up is that the 49ers maximized their draft last year by only moving up earlier in the 2nd (rather than into the late 1st) to get Kaepernick. We got Culliver with a 3rd and Hunter with a 4th. Both of those guys played pretty huge roles for the team. You could say that it would’ve been great to have a second 4th round pick (to pick up, say Rashad Carmichael), but Kaepernick was at a real need position. The Niners don’t have a ton of extra draft picks this year. I want them to keep all of them and use all of them to improve the roster.

Adrian Hamilton looks like a beast. He’s not as fluid as Aldon Smith, and he doesn’t look like he is much of a coverage player, but he can rush the passer, and that’s a very important skill give our still somewhat leaky secondary.

given that people know that the Patriots love to trade their early picks away, do you think being positioned just ahead of the Patriots gives the 49ers a better than average chance of trading back out of the first round?

Imagine this scenario: the Dolphins know that the Seahawks love Brandon Weeden and want to trade with the Pats to get him at #31. The Dolphins know that the Pats won’t trade with them because they’re in the same division and that the 49ers would only be too happy to prevent the Seahawks from getting what they want. So would the Dolphins be more likely to trade up to #30 to make everybody happy?

Beastly when you see him play, I know Jim Levitt would mold that dude into a monster…. And I don’t buy into that “knock” of him playing at a lower level of comp. either!!

I think I have his sat-phone number somewhere in here…is that…nope. Well, I’ll keep looking.

Our former HOF WR Arnaz Battle was released by the Steelers. Should we pick him up to replace Kyle Williams as a punt returner?

I’d only trade up for Fitzpatrick..

3rd at the earliest, but you’ve given that up, so probably a 4th, if he’s still there. Problem is, if his instincts prove wrong on a play, he’s cooked because it appears that doesn’t have the speed to correct errors in judgement….

Perhaps this version was only supposed to be a draft of the draft thread?

simply because there is no QB drafted. Personally, I like the odds of the 49ers heading into 2012 with Alex Smith and Colin Kaepernick at the QB position (especially if A.Smith continues to refuse turning the ball over). It would also be nice to have C, LG, LT and RT locked up for several seasons (if the team gets Peter Konz).

Fundamentally speaking, I like the way this team is built. Strong in the front seven and continuity starting to develop amongst the OL (in other words, tough in the trenches on both sides of the ball). Picking up secondary help, and pieces for the offense to work with are essential to the 2012 NFL Draft. The team can address those needs without trading, but a guy like Konz is worth it under the right circumstance.

I don’t think the team can afford to trade up in round 1 if they cannot resign Rogers or Goldson. If they resign just one, I think the extra pick can be spare, but if neither resign, it cannot. Luckily the franchise tag on Goldson is fairly affordable, so I’d wager at the very least Goldson will back for 2012. If Goldson returns on the 1-year and Rogers walks, I don’t think the team can afford spending that extra pick to move up.

Just my two cents.

Eagles will place franchise tag on DeSean Jackson http://wp.me/p14QSB-10BD

I know it’s not a huge need, and some would say it isn’t a need at all, but I was thinking that if we could get someone who could dominate in the middle as well as get pressure on the QB, that would put the Dline over the top. I know Williams could have a bright future, but probably not as a pass rusher from what I’ve heard. Sopoaga has one more year on his contract. Does anyone think taking a NT high in the draft could be a good idea? And if so, are there any good ones who will be available at 30?

any preferences as to the subject?