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49ers 2012 Free Agency Review: Safeties

Rather than move on to the linebackers and continue a run through the front seven, we're moving to safeties in our next review/preview post. We've got some individual posts on linebackers and cornerbacks today so it seems like a good idea to mix things up a little bit to avoid repetitive conversations in the same day.

Yesterday we discussed the defensive line, and as expected most folks do not see the line as a significant issue moving forward. 82% gave the line a four or five. There are some depth issues to be sorted out, but with the players in place the line looks to be in solid shape for 2012.

The safety positions on the other hand have a fairly significant question mark heading into free agency. Dashon Goldson and Reggie Smith are both heading into free agency, leaving the possibility of question marks at free safety. The common refrain is that the 49ers will franchise Goldson if they can't get a deal worked out. Nothing can be assumed until it actually happens, but it seems like the odds are decent that Goldson is back for at least one more year.

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Dashon Goldson

The Hawk bounced back from a tough 2010 with a Pro Bowl 2011 season. It was an interesting season for Goldson as we saw a bit of the boom/bust qualities we have become a bit used to with him. He has a penchant for big plays, but in his attempts to make some of these big plays, he sometimes gives up some big plays to the offense. Whether he is going for the big interception or the big hit, the play is not always there and the defense can suffer accordingly.

It sort of falls in line with the aggressive nature of the defense. The 49ers did a better job this year of having some back-end support for the playermakers, but as is the case in any aspect of football, execution is not always 100% and it can burn you.

Simply put, you basically take with the bad with the good when it comes to Dashon Goldson. If the 49ers do not franchise him, it will be interesting to see how the market settles for Goldson. He found himself without many suitors last offseason, but he is now coming off a fairly high profile season on a high profile defense. He was tied for the team lead in interceptions and whether we like it or not, things like that can lead to inflated values.

Donte Whitner

Carlos Rogers turned into the high profile free agent bargain, but Donte Whitner hasn't been too shabby either. Whitner signed a three year, $11.25 million contract with the 49ers shortly after reportedly coming to terms with the Cincinnati Bengals.

Whitner operates well in run support and is a nice complement to Dashon Goldson deeper in the secondary. He is not spectacular in pass coverage, but he fits his role at strong safety quite well. While he does not fly around the field looking for monster hits, he showed an ability to make a game-changing hit when he forced Pierre Thomas to fumble the ball deep in 49ers territory, and knocked the running back from the NFC divisional playoff matchup.

While Whitner can improve in his coverage skills, he was overall a very solid safety and provides security at the position for the next couple of years.

Reggie Smith

It was a tough season for Reggie Smith. Before the 49ers re-signed Dashon Goldson, Smith had emerged as the starting free safety early in training camp. However, a torn meniscus sidelined him long enough for Goldson to regain his starting role at free safety. Smith received playing time early in the season, but aside from a week three interception against Cincinnati, he flew under the radar for most of the rest of the season.

Smith is an unrestricted free agent and it sounds like he and the 49ers have come to an agreement that he will look for work elsewhere. He could always end up back in SF if he can't find a deal, but it seems like it would be pretty surprising for him to return. His departure makes the need for some safety help all the more important. Even if the 49ers bring back Dashon Goldson, it seems like adding a young safety sometime during day two of the draft could be a wise decision.

C.J. Spillman

Spillman spent much of his season focusing on special teams as part of dominant kick and punt coverage units. He did get some work at safety during the season, but for the most part special teams was his forte. Spillman is a restricted free agent, which means the 49ers can get a chance to bring him back if an outside contract offer is to their liking. The 49ers would need to tender Spillman (which they will likely do) and then match any offer that he might get, if they want to bring him back. Spillman could be a guy who can develop into a stronger backup option, but it is a tough call given his lack of significant safety playing time.

Madieu Williams

The 49ers signed Madieu Williams to a one year contract prior to bringing back Dashon Goldson. Williams got starting time at both free safety and strong safety when Goldson and Donte Whitner suffered injuries. He got some special teams play in as well, but for the most part was a bit of a non-factor as the season wore on. He brought some versatility but the 49ers did not really utilize it too much.

Williams is now an unrestricted free agent. He is still only 30, so they could potentially bring him back on the cheap, but if they decide to convert Cory Nelms to safety and/or add some safety help in the draft, they might be satisfied to simply let Williams walk.

Colin Jones

Although Jones played safety in college, the 49ers drafted him strictly for special teams work. He developed into a solid member of the coverage units and will likely stick with that moving forward. I would imagine he might get some snaps at safety in OTAs and training camp, but barring some wildly impressive performances, he'll be sticking with special teams.

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On a scale of one to five, with five being absolutely satisfied and one being "highest priority", how do you feel about the 49ers safeties?
One
40 votes
Two
107 votes
Three
279 votes
Four
330 votes
Five
142 votes

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This one all depends on whether Goldson re-signs.

If he does, Whitner and Goldson are a perfectly capable team. If not, we might need to get someone else as I don’t have much confidence in Reggie Smith (as much as I’d love to have a fourth Smith starting).

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by Tim Lincecum's Bong on Feb 8, 2012 2:23 PM PST reply actions  

This is why I voted 2

just a little uneasy depending on whether we keep Dashon or if the person we replace him with is good

by KGboomer on Feb 8, 2012 2:58 PM PST up reply actions  

I feel the same way

About having another Smith start. Jacquies Smith, from Notre Dame, looks like a good mid-round developmental DE/OLB prospect. I think we should grab him.

Also, Fooch, one error: You said Whitner “forced Pierre Thomas to fumble the ball”. I believe what you meant to say was that Whitner “put the hardest hit of the postseason on Thomas.”

Both are correct, but the latter is more precise.

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by lottwasgangsta on Feb 8, 2012 3:04 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

Pierre

is definitely still having nightmares, or atleast I would after that

by KGboomer on Feb 8, 2012 3:05 PM PST up reply actions  

Fixed.
Also, Fooch, one error: You said Whitner "forced Pierre Thomas to fumble the ball". I believe what you meant to say was that Whitner "put the hardest hit of the postseason in the history of the NFL on Thomas."

by ninerspride on Feb 8, 2012 3:34 PM PST up reply actions  

I would also be ok with

“caused Pierre Thomas to poop himself at approximately the three yard line.”

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by lottwasgangsta on Feb 8, 2012 3:52 PM PST up reply actions  

Notre Dame?

He’s from Mizzou like Aldon

by thekelvman on Feb 8, 2012 6:15 PM PST up reply actions  

My mistake

I knew that. And, like J. Smith. Which is yet another reason to draft him: D-lineman named Smith from Mizzou? Probably can already start on his bust in Canton…

There’s another Smith from Notre Dame I was thinking of; a safety, if my (apparently faulty) memory serves…

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by lottwasgangsta on Feb 8, 2012 7:49 PM PST up reply actions  

Thanks

Yup. Can never have too many Smiths. Especially when they play like Justin.

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by lottwasgangsta on Feb 9, 2012 8:44 PM PST up reply actions  

"Whitner operates well in run support and is a nice complement to Dashon Goldson deeper in the secondary."

The addition of Whitner in part allowed Dashon to have the year he did, they have a great relationship with each other & i’m sure Donte will do what he can to influence Dashon to come back.

CJ Spillman is an essential part of the Special Team & with Reggie Smith & Madieu Williams possibly leaving the team it would give him an opportunity to see some defensive snaps.

I had to vote 3 because of the uncertainly that there is at the moment with 4 of the 6 safeties being some sort of Free Agent. If the resign Goldson & Spillman than it would move up to a 4 but they would have to draft for safety depth

by Lok on Feb 8, 2012 2:25 PM PST reply actions  

three
  1. is leading early. Not surprising given the uncertainty of it all with Goldson sort of hanging in the wind.

by David Fucillo on Feb 8, 2012 2:36 PM PST up reply actions  

I think Whitner is totally solid, but

Goldson, although he seems to have a penchant for the big play, makes too many mistakes. Pretty much lost the Arizona game going for the big hit on Fitz when he should have just wrapped up. I was annoyed with him in the NFCCG for taking out Brown and for the two botched INT’s, but they really weren’t his fault. Also, the majority of his INT’s this season were off of tips, not because of his inferior coverage skills.

WWJHD?

by NoDakNiner on Feb 8, 2012 2:37 PM PST reply actions  

Also, Reggie had a pretty pedestrian year

and Spillman shouldn’t see the field except on special teams. That’s more why I went with 3 than Goldson’s coverage issues.

WWJHD?

by NoDakNiner on Feb 8, 2012 2:40 PM PST up reply actions  

I don't think there are anysuitable replacements in FA or in the draft for Goldson

So I think the bast case scenario would be to franchise him, and if there are still no suitable FA’s or draftees that are better, then sign him to a 2-3 year deal

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by mtl9ers14 on Feb 8, 2012 2:49 PM PST reply actions  

It's not a deep year

For safeties in the draft.

Franchising Goldson makes a lot of sense. I am really glad we have Whitner inked for a couple more years, and I think Rogers is a bigger long-term priority than Goldson.

I wonder what our defense would have looked like with Goldson making a couple fewer INT’s, and a couple more stops right after someone caught it. I don’t mean that to knock him- I legitimately wonder how big of a difference it would have made, and in what direction.

He DOES, however, need to stop decking his own guy, a la the NFC championship game.

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by lottwasgangsta on Feb 8, 2012 3:07 PM PST up reply actions  

I know a lot of people knock Goldson because he allows some big plays but I rarely ever see people make the same complaint about Whitner. IMO, Whitner had just as many plays allowed last season (2 in the final two minutes of the Saints game) and nobody says anything.

I feel that with the rules that the NFL have been implementing, safeties are deviating from going for the big hit when the receiver is catching the ball because it leads to penalties and fines. As a result, the safeties are changing their habits and are starting to go for the ball much more than the hit, whether it being a big one or just wrapping up.

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by mtl9ers14 on Feb 8, 2012 3:21 PM PST up reply actions  

Part of it probably has to do with the fact everyone knows what Whitner is.

An okay SS. He also has 2 years left on a modest contract.

Goldson thinks he’s an elite FS, as well as some fans, which he most certainly is not. He also in all likelihood is going to want to get PAID, just as he was last offseason. Whether he deserves it or not is subject to debate, as seen on these forums.

by Odekerk on Feb 8, 2012 3:23 PM PST up reply actions  

This

He’s not elite, but thinks he is. Franchise him. If we can get a similar or better player after next season, go that route.

WWJHD?

by NoDakNiner on Feb 8, 2012 3:24 PM PST up reply actions  

Do you think any team is willing to pay him elite FS money, though?

I imagine every other FO has the same footage of Goldson that the niners have. IMHO, if I was a fan of another team, I would be furious if they signed Goldson to a 4 year/35 million contract.

Here’s hoping the niners can get him for $5-6 million/year. Those are reasonable numbers considering his production, and who knows, maybe his ceiling is higher than we think.

by ninerspride on Feb 8, 2012 3:31 PM PST up reply actions  

It's always hard to know what other teams think.

Guys get overpaid every offseason, it’s just part of it. A desperate team somewhere could very well be willing to give him the money.

by Odekerk on Feb 8, 2012 3:32 PM PST up reply actions  

that's a fair point

I’m certain, though, that no one is going to trade for Goldson if the niners use the non-exclusive franchise tag on him. That’s why I’m certain he’s back next year. Long term, that’s less clear.

by ninerspride on Feb 8, 2012 3:47 PM PST up reply actions  

That's assuming the team is willing to tag Goldson.

I think they could very well do just that, but it’s not set in stone.

Likely to happen though.

by Odekerk on Feb 8, 2012 3:57 PM PST up reply actions  

what helps is the cost of the safety franchise tag

It will likely be between $5.5 and $6.5 million, which is great value for Goldson. Compare that to CBs, who are getting upwards of $10 million for a franchise tag.

by ninerspride on Feb 8, 2012 4:06 PM PST up reply actions  

Goldson was probably humbled last year

because remember, he went looking for the big contract and got zilch from that. Kinda makes me wonder if he took the humble pie to heart.

by jviet on Feb 8, 2012 4:44 PM PST up reply actions  

out of curiosity

Where do you see the top safeties in this draft going? Do you think any starting-caliber satefy will be around when the niners pick in the second or third round?

by ninerspride on Feb 8, 2012 3:37 PM PST up reply actions  

No Idea

They played at about a 4 this season. Still don’t know who is coming back and level of play at any DB position can vary year to year.

by bignerd on Feb 8, 2012 2:58 PM PST reply actions  

voted 2

I like our current combo, but if Dashon wanted big money LAST year, he’s gonna want even more this year after all those int’s, and our FO isn’t gonna throw him the insane amount he probably wants. All speculation though, maybe he surprises me and takes a winning team discount or whatever

by KGboomer on Feb 8, 2012 3:04 PM PST reply actions  

it's essential

that the F.O. look to pick up a safety in the draft. Reggie Smith has been underwhelming, to say the least, and madieu williams really is 4th on the depth chart and mainly on for ST. If we retain goldson, it would be significant, but should either he or whitner succumb to an injury, we’d be in trouble back there. A safety in the first three rounds of the draft….

by ratumike on Feb 8, 2012 3:21 PM PST reply actions  

The 49ers have absolutely no depth at safety

Williams and Smith are most likely gone, and Jones saw more snaps at wide receiver than safety this season. Spillman and Nelms are interesting developmental prospects — Spillman, in particular, sure looks like he’s picked up Whitner’s and Goldson’s knack for blowing up ball carriers — but I don’t think either is ready for a starting job anytime soon.

I would be very surprised if the FO didn’t get a safety in the middle rounds of the draft or at a bargain basement price in free agency. Otherwise, this secondary is one injury away from complete disaster.

by ninerspride on Feb 8, 2012 3:27 PM PST reply actions  

Voted 2: officially have NO starting FS & 49ers have no depth behind the starters...

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by Kidd2Petrovic on Feb 8, 2012 3:33 PM PST reply actions  

Goldson will be back ... There-fore ... Five ...!!

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by Edggy on Feb 8, 2012 3:37 PM PST reply actions  

I personally think our safeties form the hardest hitting tandem in the leageue

I really like Earl Thomas though

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by mtl9ers14 on Feb 8, 2012 3:48 PM PST up reply actions  

serious question

would you rather have a dominant secondary like the Seahawks (with Browner, Chancellor, and Thomas), or a dominant front seven like the 49ers? Obviously the 49ers have the better overall defense, but the Seahawks secondary could be serious problem in the future.

Personally, I’m leaning toward having elite DBs. With the way the NFL is tilting toward the pass, a dominant secondary with a serviceable front seven may be the best strategy to limit the Packers, Patriots, Lions, and other pass-first teams. If the 49ers secondary takes a step back next year, I don’t know if Willis and the Smith Brothers can bail out the defense against elite offenses.

by ninerspride on Feb 8, 2012 3:58 PM PST up reply actions  

What about the increasing trend of TE's in the passing game

need good LB’s to cover those guys.

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by NoDakNiner on Feb 8, 2012 4:01 PM PST up reply actions  

My prediction

Is that in the coming seasons, we’re going to see some hybrid SS/LB defenders drafted who are big enough and fast/athletic enough specifically to cover the league’s tight ends.

It’s a copycat league, and surely people didn’t fail to notice how dominant J. Graham and Gronk looked this season, and what mismatches they were for nearly everybody.

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by lottwasgangsta on Feb 8, 2012 6:12 PM PST up reply actions  

Ha. Taylor Mays?

That’d be ironic. Future Hall of Famer. You heard it here first.

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by NoDakNiner on Feb 8, 2012 6:55 PM PST up reply actions  

I kid, of course

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by NoDakNiner on Feb 8, 2012 6:56 PM PST up reply actions  

You know

They’ll be built along his lines, just better in coverage. More fluid, if not as ridiculously fast in a straight line.

Sigh. I REALLY hope we didn’t give up on him too fast. After this season, I have to think this coaching staff knows what it’s doing, but still…

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by lottwasgangsta on Feb 8, 2012 11:04 PM PST up reply actions  

the quality of the secondary

works in close relation with the effectiveness of the pass rush. A serviceable front seven does two things which you don’t want – gives the opposing quarterback a little more time, and puts more pressure on the DB’s to make plays. Really, you want both units to be dynamic, but if you can’t, then you’d prefer to have a dynamite front seven and a serviceable secondary. A key element of our defense this past season has been our safeties not needing to worry about the play action so they can hang back more often and not worry about opposing RB’s getting through, because, well, they don’t.

by ratumike on Feb 8, 2012 4:11 PM PST up reply actions  

right?

I’m surprised by it as well, but they somehow got three of their starters named to the pro-bowl or named as pro-bowl alternates. That defense has other problems (like finishing with only 33 sacks on the season) but their secondary is young, talented, and dangerous. If they get a pass rusher, that defense is going to be a serious issue for the 49ers.

by ninerspride on Feb 8, 2012 4:28 PM PST up reply actions  

Yeah, both of Seattle's safeties and both of their starting CBs

are all very good. All young. All can hit, all can cover, and are very physical and have good size. They’re going to be a nightmare for a while. Their front 7 isn’t bad either. Their defense is actually very good.

by Odekerk on Feb 8, 2012 4:30 PM PST up reply actions  

Give them more than one season

I’ve seen this script in Seattle before. They have been trying this big corner experiment for over a decade and the success never seems to last longer than a year.

by bignerd on Feb 8, 2012 4:40 PM PST up reply actions  

Shawn Springs and Marcus Trufant weren't good in their primes?

They weren’t “big” either. Both around or less than 6’0’’

Sherman is 6’3’’ and Browner is 6’4’’

by Odekerk on Feb 8, 2012 5:23 PM PST up reply actions  

Definitely disagree.

Trufant has fallen off lately due to injuries and age, but he was very good for a decent amount of seasons. Springs fell off after he’d been in Washington.

by Odekerk on Feb 8, 2012 5:44 PM PST up reply actions  

Big corners have a horrible shelf life. Mainly one nick and they are no longer agile enough to keep up with smaller, quicker receivers.

by bignerd on Feb 8, 2012 7:19 PM PST up reply actions  

This is true in theory,

and I think Seattle can only pull it off because Earl Thomas has pretty ridiculous speed and range. Teams rarely attempted challenging Browner or Sherman deep because they’d keep Thomas way back in centerfield, anticipating the pass.

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by Fearless Frog on Feb 8, 2012 9:14 PM PST via mobile up reply actions  

lol

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by HUNGRY HUNTER on Feb 8, 2012 9:31 PM PST up reply actions  

This is literally Seattle's first season trying big DBs.

Former GM Tim Ruskell (dumbass)‘s entire philosophy was building a team of undersized midgets who were theoretically supposed to be super fast (Kelly Jennings 5’11 180, Josh Wilson 5’9 185) but resulted in an overmatched secondary that got torched routinely en route to becoming one of the worst secondaries in team history.

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by Fearless Frog on Feb 8, 2012 9:12 PM PST via mobile up reply actions  

We need a better cover safety in dime situations, or another, safety not playing for a contract, Goldson will follow the money, he only stays as a franchise player, and I don’t know if I’d like him in that position. Plus I still believe he is lacking as a safety, and essentially don’t want him back.

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by rlott#42 on Feb 8, 2012 3:46 PM PST reply actions  

I don't really disagree, per se

Who would you think we can get to replace him, though?

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by NoDakNiner on Feb 8, 2012 4:02 PM PST up reply actions  

what free agents are available?

Tyvon Branch, Landry, who is out there?

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by rlott#42 on Feb 8, 2012 4:47 PM PST up reply actions  

It doesn't really matter I guess

If we can get similar production for less money, if he does indeed want more money, then yeah by all means let him walk. I would be less than shocked if we franchised him though.

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by NoDakNiner on Feb 8, 2012 6:05 PM PST up reply actions  

this defense rarely goes to dime

Most teams take a linebacker off the field in obvious passing situations, but the 49ers never do. Willis, Bowman, and four pass rushers are almost always on the field, leaving room for, at most, five DBs.

I don’t remember a time when this team went to 5 DBs when it wasn’t either the end of the game or the end of the half.

by ninerspride on Feb 8, 2012 4:37 PM PST up reply actions  

They better learn.

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by rlott#42 on Feb 8, 2012 4:44 PM PST up reply actions  

my point is

the 49ers don’t need a cover safety, since they have two solid cover linebackers. Teams that lack good cover linebackers, like the Giants, often use a safety to cover tight ends and running backs — the Giants even put three safeties on the field sometimes. But the 49ers rarely need their safeties to cover anyone man-to-man.

What the niners need is a safety that won’t forget their deep responsibilities. Here’s hoping that goldson can correct his mistakes next year.

by ninerspride on Feb 8, 2012 5:02 PM PST up reply actions  

this

I find that the 49ers use their safeties more to help corners over the top to help out the corners or they use them in stopping the run.

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by mtl9ers14 on Feb 8, 2012 5:22 PM PST up reply actions  

This is where you are wrong. If you continue to guard four and five wide were with linebackers you’ll get toasted. The Ravens did it, the Giants did it. The Pack, Patriots, and Saints will do it. They know they can’t run. Teams will abandon the run and pass 50 times like the Steelers of years ago. Then you run into a team like the pack, get spread out and murdered.

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by rlott#42 on Feb 8, 2012 7:28 PM PST up reply actions  

edit

I don’t remember a time when this team went to six DBs when it wasn’t either the end of the game or the end of the half.

by ninerspride on Feb 8, 2012 4:51 PM PST up reply actions  

End of the game

You know — that time when the game is tied and the other team has to throw 6 straight passes to get down the field.

Oh, who cares about our massive failures there?

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by Ougadas on Feb 9, 2012 6:12 AM PST up reply actions  

So it double posts and then kills the comment? Technical issues today.

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by Ougadas on Feb 9, 2012 6:19 AM PST up reply actions  

Remember when we traded up to draft Anthony Davis over Earl Thomas?

Good times

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by MichaelClutchtree on Feb 8, 2012 4:37 PM PST reply actions  

ugh

thanks again, Singletary.

Weird thing was, Baalke was ostensibly in charge of that draft, but they still ended up with Davis and Mays. What the hell happened?

by ninerspride on Feb 8, 2012 4:39 PM PST up reply actions  

Remember Snyder at right tackle?

Thank McBooFoo for drafting Crabtree..!!

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by rlott#42 on Feb 8, 2012 4:39 PM PST up reply actions  

No, that was okay drafting Crabtree. We got a “bargain” on him.

What I would’ve much rather wanted was us to draft DeSean in 2008, Oher in 2009 and then Iupati and Earl Thomas in 2010

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by MichaelClutchtree on Feb 8, 2012 4:42 PM PST up reply actions  

every draft we do is utter crap except for the last one it seems

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by MichaelClutchtree on Feb 8, 2012 4:48 PM PST up reply actions  

Let me know when they want to trade him.

by bignerd on Feb 8, 2012 5:20 PM PST up reply actions  

Should've given him an incentive-laden movie deal

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by NoDakNiner on Feb 8, 2012 6:57 PM PST up reply actions  

Patrick Willis should have gotten a book and a movie.

His story is a lot better than Oher’s.

http://espn.go.com/video/clip?id=7132639

Plus he’s 10x the player and human being.

by Odekerk on Feb 8, 2012 8:48 PM PST up reply actions  

Haha.

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by Fearless Frog on Feb 8, 2012 9:15 PM PST via mobile up reply actions  

He is good as an RT

that’s what we nedded at the time

by LPF on Feb 8, 2012 5:30 PM PST up reply actions  

He was great as a rookie.

Was awful as an LT and since being moved back to RT hasn’t played anywhere near the level of his rookie season.

by Odekerk on Feb 8, 2012 5:33 PM PST up reply actions  

Yup, this is the truth.

…Although I’d still rather have had him than Aaron Curry

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by Fearless Frog on Feb 8, 2012 9:16 PM PST via mobile up reply actions  

LOL

The 49ers were never going to draft Earl Thomas.

by bignerd on Feb 8, 2012 4:42 PM PST up reply actions  

Tyvon Branch and Brandon Carr….are they available?

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by rlott#42 on Feb 8, 2012 4:38 PM PST reply actions  

What if Goldson doesn't sign the franchise tag?

It’s a possibility. I know they agreed to mutually part, but I think R Smith could be solid. we could re-sign him for a longer deal if Goldson doesn’t sign. Either way we need to draft some depth, the safeties on the roster aren’t very promising. The safety from Notre Dame and Boise State look good if they’re around in the 3rd.

by LPF on Feb 8, 2012 6:03 PM PST reply actions  

no thanks on reggie

the other teams score every time he’s on the field

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by mtl9ers14 on Feb 8, 2012 6:18 PM PST up reply actions  

Don't have a choice once a franchise tag is placed on you

Essentially are off the market. Can either sign a long term deal or take the one year franchise money.

by bignerd on Feb 8, 2012 7:20 PM PST up reply actions  

Or hold out

and make nothing. I don’t see him doing that.

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by NoDakNiner on Feb 8, 2012 7:26 PM PST up reply actions  

depends on exclusive or non-exclusive

by HUNGRY HUNTER on Feb 8, 2012 9:30 PM PST up reply actions  

bright

Can you link the title and then keep everything else unlinked. It’s kinda bright.

by David Fucillo on Feb 8, 2012 9:31 PM PST up reply actions  

ok, will do next time

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by HUNGRY HUNTER on Feb 8, 2012 9:32 PM PST up reply actions  

what happened to all the fan posts? there is only three on the front page?

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by HUNGRY HUNTER on Feb 8, 2012 9:40 PM PST up reply actions  

network issues

They’ve been pulled down for now while they sort it out. You can find them HERE

by David Fucillo on Feb 8, 2012 9:44 PM PST up reply actions  

oh, so it is only a temporary thing correct?

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by HUNGRY HUNTER on Feb 8, 2012 10:26 PM PST up reply actions  

2

Goldson needs to come back for at least one more year, even if his coverage skills are not up to par. He will most likely be getting the tag, but our safeties besides him are putrid; including the ones headed to FA. Really would like it if Markelle Martin was there in the second round, or if not, get Iloka later in the draft. Free safety is an absolute must this year in the draft even if Goldson signs a long-term deal.

by 9thevolution on Feb 9, 2012 7:29 AM PST reply actions  

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