Twas the night before.....: 49ers Free Agency Rumor Mill/Wish List Open Thread
With free agency kicking off in less than 24 hours (Thursday night 9pm pacific/Midnight eastern), rumors should reach a fevered pitch in the coming hours. So, with that in mind, I thought I'd open up a thread to keep things relatively straight. While free agency begins at 9pm, I'm kind of curious how long it takes for the 49ers to make things happen, particularly in light of the tampering issues. I was looking back at the Niners Nation archives and last season the first signings (Lewis/Clements) happened approximately 16 hours into free agency. Maybe they get guys signed but take a few days to get the paperwork done? Who knows. I say just get things done, tampering worries be damned.
First off, the rumors I've heard among many:
Justin Smith - This has probably been the most talked about option in free agency for the 49ers lately. Of course, many of us thoughts Adalius Thomas was coming to town and it didn't quite work out that way. While Justin Smith will cost a hefty chunk of change, I would really like to see him in the 3-4 next season.
Calvin Pace - I first noticed Pace's name in a Maiocco column. Pace plays the weakside linebacker position and I just happened upon an interesting comment. Rotoworld is claiming the Patriots are interested and would move him inside as they did with Adalius Thomas. One interesting post at the scout.com 49ers page pointed to a potential hybrid defense if Calvin Pace and Justin Smith were both signed. A 3-3 with Justin Smith playing the elephant role. Thoughts?
Bernard Berrian - His name has been bandied about as a potential receiving option, but the money seems to be a bit steep. It sounds like Berrian wants $24.5 million over the first three years and the Bears offered 5 years, $25 million. Berrian apparently wants to pass Deion Branch's deal of 6 years, $39 million. I'd personally rather go with some smaller names and spread the money around as I've never been a big Bernard Berrian fan. Of course, rumor has it Berrian really wants to play in San Francisco.
DeShaun Foster - Technically DeShaun Foster is already eligible to be signed but a deal isn't done yet. I'm curious what the potential hold up is. In spite of the injury issues and whatnot, I think he'd make a great backup for Gore. At the same time I'd love to see what Thomas Clayton can do. If Foster is signed, the competition basically comes down to Thomas Clayton vs. Michael Robinson for the #3 running back and I'd imagine Robinson has the edge for now.
Lance Briggs - Briggs has been on the radar of most 49ers fans every since word spread that the 49ers had made a play for him at the trade deadline. Then the tampering issues came up recently and everything seems up in the air. Matt Maiocco is NOT sold on Briggs coming to the Bay Area. Stories have the 49ers potentially not interested and that this is more of a Drew Rosenhaus thing running up the price. Maybe it's part of the deal for getting Frank Gore signed long term; use the 49ers to leverage his other clients. If the 49ers can bring in Smith and Pace I certainly have no problem ignoring Lance Briggs.
Shaun McDonald - Not the sexiest name out there, but McDonald could be a nice little pickup if he can build on last year's 79 receptions, 943 yards and 6 touchdowns. As Sven pointed out, rumors have McDonald potentially being traded to San Francisco. We'll see if this comes to fruition.
So I'd say we open this up to two questions. What do you think the 49ers will do? versus What do you HOPE the 49ers will do?
For me, I still would like to see the 49ers make a run at one of the quality offensive lineman out there, but it sounds unlikely and rather just be addressed in the draft. MM is reporting league rumors have Alan Faneca signing with the Jets. That leaves a guy like Flozell "The Hotel" Adams who appears likely to resign with the Cowboys.
As I read and hear more rumors I'll post them here. Go ahead and use this to include rumors you hear and your wishes for the 49ers free agency.
EDITOR'S UPDATE 2:15PM - Isaac Bruce: Just came across this at Rotoworld:
The Rams asked Bruce to take a pay cut and he refused. The Rams have put themselves in awful cap condition with poor free agent signings the past few seasons, and now have to cut their most tenured player. Bruce has plenty left in the tank, and will instantly be on San Francisco's radar. If the Rams are smart, they'll make him another contract offer.
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by montasmob69 on
Feb 27, 2008 11:33 PM PST
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How exactly would
The 49ers already have a bunch of mediocre WRs, and adding more wont solve this issue.
by SoCal As Fan on
Feb 28, 2008 11:14 AM PST
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Clueless
And how exactly did Bryant Johnson not cut it as a 3rd WR in Arizona? He's put up very solid numbers while playing behind two Pro Bowlers. He's leaving Arizona not because he isn't good enough but because Arizona can't afford to retain him.
by methodrampage on
Feb 28, 2008 11:39 AM PST
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have you even looked at stats
46 rec, 528 yards, 2 TD
He has never had more than 4 TDs in a year. Is there something I am missing?
And how is Hackett a lower end #1? 9 TDs and less than 1400 yds in 3 seasons. His highest yards in a season is 610.
What you need to remember is that both of these guys put up decent numbers with good QBs (or at least better QBs than what the 49ers have). So what makes you think they would get any better if they were to come here. Is Martz really that good??
by SoCal As Fan on
Feb 28, 2008 1:58 PM PST
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46 rec, 528 yards, 2 TD
Have you watched any Seahawks games in '06? It was apparent then that Hackett was bursting onto the scene. Hackett was hurt for the majority of last season but he put some pretty big games together when he was able to suit up. Do some research and read a scouting report numbers don't tell the whole story.
You're right our QBs suck and who's to say Randy Moss wouldn't blow a big one if he came to SF?
by methodrampage on
Feb 28, 2008 2:16 PM PST
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DE
Pace would be a proven OLB so no gambling in the draft.... we see him enough in the season that the coaching staff knows what he's capable of
Berrian will be too expensive i think.... lets go get brandon lloyd for next to nothing(ha love his crazy catches)... i think this will be another position addressed in the draft more than once possibly
Foster would be a good option for our #2RB.... i think there is good depth in the draft here and would like to see us get a big back for short yardage
Briggs would be a good pickup but he's a little small and will demand a big price tag so i dont thik id take him
What the 49ers will do....
1.Pace and Foster
by Qbgetter13 on
Feb 28, 2008 6:21 AM PST
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Lloyd?
by methodrampage on
Feb 28, 2008 7:11 AM PST
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Pace
by sfgfan on
Feb 29, 2008 9:38 AM PST
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Do vs Hope
Hope: Pace, Faneca and Bryant Johnson. Also would like for them to consider a fullback.. Morris is soft
by bayboy on
Feb 28, 2008 8:45 AM PST
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go fullback
by Qbgetter13 on
Feb 28, 2008 10:02 AM PST
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Here's my Free Agent Wish List
by methodrampage on
Feb 28, 2008 10:27 AM PST
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Kwame is a good run-blocker
by Nosetackle Supreme on
Feb 28, 2008 12:34 PM PST
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On the other hand
by howtheyscored on
Feb 28, 2008 2:08 PM PST
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Change != Cause
by sfgfan on
Feb 29, 2008 9:40 AM PST
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Absolutely...
by jaytierney on
Feb 29, 2008 10:02 AM PST
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Foster hold up
by jaytierney on
Feb 28, 2008 11:12 AM PST
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Tampa Bay
by methodrampage on
Feb 28, 2008 11:42 AM PST
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Very good points
by sfgfan on
Feb 29, 2008 9:42 AM PST
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Free agent receivers
by jaytierney on
Feb 28, 2008 11:14 AM PST
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Why no mention of Javon Walker
by SoCal As Fan on
Feb 28, 2008 11:18 AM PST
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Good point
by Fooch on
Feb 28, 2008 11:21 AM PST
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Walker
by methodrampage on
Feb 28, 2008 11:48 AM PST
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Re. Twas the night before 49ers Free Agency...
The Niners will not make as big a splash in free agency as they made last year. Off the top of my head, Clements, TBC, Lelie, and Jackson come to mind. And where did that get us? Last in offense and bottom third in defense.
With this rag tag (I say that loosely) bunch of guys we got we might as well plug a few holes on both sides of the line via free agency. Take our chances in the draft. Get our act together this offseason. Because next season will be a better indicator of where this team actually is as far as talent and coaching.
That's why I think we will be frugal in free agency (maybe one big deal, two big deals would shock me).
I guess this is pretty much what I hope will happen as well.
by jfainsf49 on
Feb 28, 2008 11:26 AM PST
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Last year
So you're one big deal basically puts us on par with what we did last year.
by methodrampage on
Feb 28, 2008 11:52 AM PST
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Isaac Bruce
by Fooch on
Feb 28, 2008 2:16 PM PST
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Damn you beat me.
by methodrampage on
Feb 28, 2008 2:17 PM PST
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Hmmm
Excuse me if I have my reservations.
His 2006 season is nothing to scoff at, so he's not that far removed from the guys who regularly guts us, but I think there is obvious reason to be concerned about his abilities going forward.
A Bruce signing, I'd say, would easily be the closest thing to a "Vintage Dan Snyder" move of all the rumors I've heard so far.
by howtheyscored on
Feb 28, 2008 2:41 PM PST
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I think he can help
by bayboy on
Feb 28, 2008 3:01 PM PST
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Yeah
I'm much less confident that he can be effective as long as 3 years, too. I just don't think this is the contract to make. It's almost guaranteed to be too much, and with those warning signs the risk/reward ratio is shifting dangerously close to that 1:1 zone. He's still talented, but football players usually don't take their time declining, and the year he had last year (combined with his inconsistency for the last 3) makes me nervous.
Arnaz Battle caught more TDs than Isaac Bruce last year. Chew on that a little....
by howtheyscored on
Feb 28, 2008 3:18 PM PST
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Bruce
Secondly, I'd say Bruce's lack of production had to do with the struggles the entire offense went through. Their offense was horrible for the first half of the season with Pace, Bulger and Jackson all missing significant time. With all that considered Bruce still would have been head and shoulders above our next best WR. I'm sure he's still got a couple of decent years ahead of him.
by methodrampage on
Feb 28, 2008 5:00 PM PST
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I guess
I do agree that Bruce's problems last year had something to do with that offense. How could it not (that offensive line was almost as bad as ours!)? But I also think that some of the troubles of that offense had to do with skill players getting older, Bruce included. And he's only getting older.
Still, for a decent contract I wouldn't be against it. As it stands, though, he'll be considered by many (those not as concerned with age as I am) to be at the top of the WR FA class with Berrian, and I think it's bound to be at least a little competitive.
by howtheyscored on
Feb 28, 2008 5:42 PM PST
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Depends on contract
The problem is I'm torn between looking towards the future and wanting some instant gratification; it's extremely difficult to keep the two in check.
by methodrampage on
Feb 28, 2008 7:02 PM PST
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asdf
by JoeDontLoseSuperBowls on
Feb 28, 2008 2:59 PM PST
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RICKY PROEHL!
by howtheyscored on
Feb 28, 2008 3:10 PM PST
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invite to training camp
by Nosetackle Supreme on
Feb 28, 2008 4:14 PM PST
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Kearse
by wader251 on
Feb 28, 2008 3:03 PM PST
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he's too banged up
by Nosetackle Supreme on
Feb 28, 2008 4:15 PM PST
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typical
by methodrampage on
Feb 28, 2008 4:17 PM PST
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You are such a hypocrit.
by wader251 on
Feb 28, 2008 8:56 PM PST
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Apparently sarcasm is lost on you.
by methodrampage on
Feb 29, 2008 7:25 AM PST
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Receivers...
by jaytierney on
Feb 28, 2008 4:18 PM PST
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