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2008 Niners Nation Mock Draft (#23 overall pick)

Welcome to the first annual Niners Nation Mock Draft.  I enlisted the help of some of our fellow community members to begin coming up with our official mock draft for 2008.  I split up the teams between everybody as follows:

wjackalope - Dolphins, Broncos, Steelers
jtoj - Rams, Panthers, Titans
Braekneck- Falcons, Bears, Seahawks
wader251 - Raiders, Lions, Jaguars
Hitchcock - Chiefs, Cardinals, Chargers
cheno - Jets, Vikings, Cowboys (pick #2)
jfainsf49 - Patriots, Texans, Packers
noava22    Ravens - Eagles, Giants
illini49er - Bengals, Buccaneers
Sourdoughsam69 - Saints, Redskins
GB - Bills, Cowboys (pick #1)
Me - 49ers

I'm going to slowly post the picks as they come, hopefully several each day.  At some point I'll move this to the front page to get a little more reaction to it, and then settle it back in as as the top diary as the draft goes on.  Feel free to provide your thoughts on the players and who you think the team will take.

1. Miami Dolphins (wjackalope)
With the 1st overall selection, the Miami Dolphins select Chris Long, DE, Virginia

Now I know what you're thinking - I only made this pick because I too went to Virginia and I'm being a total homer.  That's only partially true.  Here's why I think the Dolphins will make this pick:

Parcells is now in charge and he's a defensive guy. The team is a mess all over, and it's clear they have a lot of needs, and the D Line is just one place to start.  While they might be tempted to take Matt Ryan, QB, Boston College, or even Darren McFadden, RB, Arkansas, it's likely they'll start with the defense and hope Ronnie Brown gets healthy and one of their young QBs develops.  They also might look for a QB sleeper later in the draft.

So once we establish that they're going for defense we have to decide who it will be.  For a while it really looked like a toss up between Long and Glenn Dorsey, DT, LSU.  I believe they will go with Long and here's why:

Long played at Virginia, where he ran the 3-4 a lot more that Dorsey did at LSU (as far as I know).  Parcells is likely to look for guys who can play the 3-4, and Long has the experience necessary.  Not only that, but Long was coached by Al Groh, a Parcells protege who served as his Defensive Coordinator for quite some time.  I would imagine that Parcells must trust the coaching Long received and is comfortable that he will be able to transition well to the next level.  Long also had a very good combine, which boosted his stock just enough to give him an edge over
Dorsey.  Finally, Dorsey's health has recently been called into serious question, and I don't think the Dolphins risk the huge money it will take to sign the #1 pick on a guy with that kind of injury history.  Oh, and Long's dad was also a pretty good NFL player, so maybe that helps him a little.

St. Louis Rams (jtoj)
With the second overall pick, the St. Louis Rams select Jake Long, OT, Michigan

Because the other Long was taken with the first pick of the draft, the Rams have a decision to make with this pick. Having draft a DE in last year's draft, the Rams have the option to take another Defensive Linemen, Dorsey, or take care of the injury-plagued offensive line. Long has been compared to Joe Thomas as far as dominating at the collegiate level. I've watched a lot of Big Ten football, but I would still put Long slightly under Thomas as far as raw skill. However, that being said, Long will still be a great player as long (pun) as he doesn't blow a couple knees out early on in his career; he is that type of prospect.

Another intriguing option here is Vernon Gholston, the Ohio State DL-men. But he is a reach at the 2 spot. This is why I could see the Rams trading the pick, but other than the Cowboy's love for McFadden, I don't see any takers for such a high pick. So, to finish up, it's a classic decision with need vs. talent. And I see the Rams going with the safe side of that argument and taking Long at #2 and fixing their much-maligned/injured offensive line. Plus, they need someone to replace Pace in the future.

3. Atlanta Falcons (braekneck)
With the third overall selection, the Atlanta Falcons select Matt Ryan, QB, Boston College.

Jake Long was gone so the Falcons had to take the best player available at their biggest need because we all know Chris Redman is not the answer at QB.

4. Oakland Raiders (wader251)
With the fourth overall selection, the Oakland Raider select Darren McFadden, RB, Arkansas.

Let me start by saying the Raiders would be crazy to pick at this spot. They have several needs most notably at WR and OL. However, with a deep class of WRs and the lack of a sure fire number 1 WR (a la Calvin Johnson). It isn't worth picking one here. As for OL this is a relatively deep class with a large drop off after Jake Long. If Dallas has as much interest in McFadden as Jerry Jones lets on I think the Raiders would be crazy to not trade this pick for one of Dallas' first picks (remember Dallas has two) and some additional picks this year. It would be likely that by moving to one of the Dallas Picks the Raiders could get a WR or OL and pay significantly less money for him.

All that said, if the Raiders do pick at #4 I think it comes down to two players. Glen Dorsey or McFadden. McFadden may very well be the best player available in the draft, and the Raiders did resign Justin Fargas this off season and have a slew of veterans to back him up. However, given the success of Adrian Peterson and Chester Taylor in Minnesota I think the blueprint is laid out for having two strong RB. As for Dorsey, his medical issues have him sliding down draft boards. On top of that, the Raiders just spent a lot of money on DT Tommy (hands up and give me all your money) Kelly. Spending the kind of money it would take to sign the #4 pick on another DT seems unlikely.

In the end I an taking McFadden because he is the best available player and it gives the Raiders leverage if they don't get a trade done at their pick to revisit it when Dallas uses both of its picks. Sort of the way the Chargers picked Eli Manning then turned around and traded him to SD. This way the Raiders can change the terms of a deal with Dallas depending on how they rate the players available when Dallas picks.

5. Kansas City Chiefs (Hitchcock)
With the fifth overall selection, the Kansas City Chiefs select Ryan Clady, OT, Boise State.

With Jake Long off the board, the Kansas City Chiefs will reach for the next best thing: Ryan Clady, OT Boise State. They’ll stop and take a look at DT Glen Dorsey, who is probably more deserving of a top five pick, but injury concerns and a more immediate need on the offensive line will rule him out. They’ll also look to trade down, but with the more intriguing trade targets (Matt Ryan and McFadden) gone, there is unlikely to be anyone willing to move up.

Ryan Clady may be a bit of a reach at #5, but he is generally regarded as the second best tackle prospect in the draft and the Chiefs desperately need help on the O-line. Last year, the Chiefs gave up 55 sacks, tied with the 49ers for most in the NFL. They weren’t much better in run blocking, ranking second to last in adjusted line yards (3.61 according to FootballOutsiders.com). The Chiefs are committed to starting young QB Brodie Croyle next year and will need to find the right players to protect him.

Ryan Clady is 6’6 and 317 lbs. Last year, he started all 13 games at left tackle for Boise State. He missed the combine due a strained pectoral muscle, but had his Pro Day yesterday (Monday, March 3) where he was reported to have displayed tremendous athleticism. The Chiefs, in particular, were quoted as saying that his workout was indeed "impressive." The Pro Day was highly attended, with at least 30 teams sending representatives. Clady is only a junior and his stock continues to rise. He believes, and many agree, that he is the top tackle prospect in the draft as he is a more pure, prototypical left tackle than Jake Long. It is possible, but unlikely, that the Chiefs will pass on Clady, as he fits their biggest need and will likely be selected in the top 15 regardless.

6. New York Jets (cheno)
With the sixth overall selection, the New York Jets select Mike Jenkins, CB, South Florida.

Many here have been liking a running back at this spot, such as Illinois' Rashard Mendenhall. However, I'm personally a fan of the platoon the Jets have going with the young Leon Washington, who averaged five yards a carry last season, and Thomas Jones, who has the ability to carry the load as a starter. The free agent signings of Alan Faneca and Damien Woody has helped out the offensive line immensely, while trading for pro bowl nose tackle Kris Jenkins helps out there.

So I feel that the hole the Jets need to fill the most is at the cornerback position. They only have four on the roster at the moment, and the quality isn't really there. They did sign Andre Woolfolk, but he didn't play last year due to injuries, so it's unwise to rely too heavily on his contributions. Jenkins had a 4.38 second dash, and has gathered a reputation for being a great athlete that is a lockdown in coverage.

With such an active offseason for the Jets, Jenkins will bring them one step closer to building a complete defense.

7. New England Patriots (jfainsf49)
With the seventh overall selection, the New England Patriots select Keith Rivers, LB, Southern California.

The Patriots offense really only has to replace Donte Stallworth, other than that they are good to go.

Their defense isn't too shabby either. But I do think they focus on defense with their first round pick. That is if they don't trade out of the pick, which wouldn't surprise me one bit.

I think they focus on defense because of one word. That word is OLD. Well, at least their linebackers are old. Not sure if Seau is coming back or not? And Brucshi, well, isn't that the guy that had a heart attack not too long ago? Nevertheless, the lb corp needs an upgrade and that is why they will choose Keith Rivers with the 7th pick.

8. Baltimore Ravens (noava22)
With the eighth overall selection, the Baltimore Ravens select Leodis McKelvin, CB, Troy State.

This choice was very tough. The Ravens are in a bind, with their top two needs ( QB - Matt Ryan, T - Long, Clady) off the board. Drafting the next two guys would be kind of a reach (Brian Brohm, Louisville or Chris Williams, Vanderbuilt), so the Ravens have to turn to an area of just as immediate - but less obvious - need.

The Ravens defense ranked 31st in the NFL against #2 receivers, strongly suggesting that outside of their primary corner, their secondary needs a lot of help. Leodis McKelvin is the consensus #1 corner, and with him still on the board, its a choice between him and Dominique Cromartie-Rogers. Drafting Williams here, though, wouldn't be too big of a reach, though.

The thing is, this is a rather pivotal spot - I could see the Ravens definitely trading down from here. With Glenn Dorsey and Sedrick Ellis still on the board, I could see any number of teams wanting to trade up. I could also see them sending this pick to Philadelphia in a package for Donovan McNabb, in which case one of the aforementioned DTs would be plucked off the board by the Eagles.

9. Cincinnati Bengals(Illini49er)
With the ninth overall selection, the Cincinnati Bengals select Sedrick Ellis, DT, USC

The Bengals defense was horrible last year. Their defensive line is in need of help. Losing Justin Smith hurt, but the addition of DE Antwan Odom offsets it somewhat. If Odom wasn't signed, the pick could have been Vernon Gholston or Derrick Harvey. There are quality DE prospects available in round 2 that the Bengals might still look at.

Defensive tackle is a deperate need for the Bengals. Two failed trades for Shaun Rogers and Dwayne Robertson underscore the need for a DT. Glenn Dorsey is tempting at this pick, but with his injury history, he seems like too much of a risk, especially with Ellis available. Ellis is an active player with a nose for the ball. He has both the strength to holdthe point of attack and bull rush for penetration and the quickness to split a center/guard double team.

The other tempting pick at this point for the Bengals is RB Rashard Mendenhall. (no it's not an Illinois homer pick) With Rudi Johnson, Chris Perry, and Kenny Irons all returning from injuries, there are questions about the running game.

10. New Orleans Saints (Sourdoughsam69)
With the tenth selection, the Saints select Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie, CB, Tennessee State.

I had the Saints picking McKlevins or Rivers but they were both taken. I can't believe Glenn Dorsey has fallen out of the top 10. I was considering picking he due to his crazy potential, but the need of a CB is just to much for the Big Easy. Mike MacKenzie is a fine CB but Randal Gay is not the answer as a number two and later number one. If the Saints want to compete for years to come, they need a shutdown corner like Rodgers-Cromartie.

But why him? Why not Talib who had a monster conclusion to his college football career with 2 INTs versus Vtech, an impressive combine, and overall just great success at Kansas? Well, Rodgers-Cromartie has proved that all his success in college was not due to cupcake WRs. He had a huge senior bowl and dazzled the scouts with a 4.44 40, which was an improvement from the 4.51 he ran at the begining on the year. At 6'2, 185 pounds, he has shown to be the most athletic CB in the draft. Like the other Cromartie in the NFL, he shows shades of Primetime with his elusiveness and explosion, which earn his praise. He plays ball most like Reshean Mantis and will racks up some serious INTs in the NFL. He is a pure cover corner and is excellent at jumping routes and taking away the inside routes. Though he does not have the recover speed of McKlevins, I'd still consider it one of his strengths. He will be best in the red zone with his high vertical leap, 6'2 height, and extreme agility. He will thrive in the saints 4-3/cover 2 hybrid defense, for he is probably the best zone corner in the draft.

His greatest weakness is his mediocre tackling ability. Rodgers-Cromartie is also not the biggest fan of contact and will not sell himself for big hits. He also has a rep for trying to jump routes and sometimes getting burned deep due to it. But hey, Asante Sammuals does that all the time and he would not have gotten that contract if he was a bum. You don't want this guy if you like to press a lot, but he is not half bad at bump and run, which is why I think the Saints are a good fit. And FYI, he has never mist a start due to injury, has good work ethics, and high confidence, but not cocky. Overall, Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie is a great pick for the Saints due to his great coverage ability, and blazing speed.

11. Buffalo Bills (GB)
With the eleventh pick, the Buffalo Bills select James Hardy, WR, Indiana This was a tough choice between Hardy and Malcolm Kelly. They both fit the Bills need for a big receiver perfectly, and they are similar prospects. In my latest mock draft I have the Bills picking Kelly. However, I was impressed by Hardy at the combine, and he really moved up my big board. Although both are only average route runners, Hardy has a superior release off the line, and he has good hands, although they are no match for Kelly's. I'm sure Bills fans would be content with either player.

12. Denver Broncos(wjackalope)
With the twelfth pick, the Denver Broncos select Glenn Dorsey, DT, LSU.

The Broncos would be elated if Dorsey slid to them all the at #12. Let's face it, a lot of people see Dorsey as one of the top 3 players in this draft, regardless of his injury history. While Chris Long might go #1, unless the Fins do get Matt Ryan, I think Dorsey is still the second DT off the board, probably before Sedrick Ellis, but that's what makes the draft so intriguing isn't it? The Broncos have needs at DT, OL, Safety, and LB, with RB and WR as lower needs. Most mock drafts have Dorsey and Ellis gone at this point and have the Broncos taking someone like Chris Williams or Keith Rivers, or of course Ryan Clady if he's on the board. But not in our draft, in our draft they get the big bad run stuffing quarterback chasing beast Glenn Dorsey, stress fracture and all. Ok so maybe he's not gonna rack up 10 sacks a year but he'll clog the lanes and make the Broncos run defense a lot better, an area where they were very weak last year.

13. Carolina Panthers(jtoj)
With the thirteenth pick, the Carolina Panthers select Kenny Phillips, S, Miami.

Having re-signed Wharton and placed the franchise tag on Gross, the offensive line isn't a glaring need as it once was. Another good option here is QB Brian Brohm, but with Jake Delhomme and Matt Moore still on the roster, it seems as if they will wait until the later rounds to see what pans out. DeShaun Foster and DeAngelo Willliams made a fine one-two punch. Having lost Foster though, the Panthers may want to take a power back like Rashard Mendenhall or Jonathan Stewart. But, like their QB situation, they may be gambling that one of these picks falls to their next second-round pick or just trust DeAngelo Williams with the full-time, full-back starting duties. With Both Ellis and Dorsey taken, I don't see Carolina really reaching here and taking Balmer or Sims to replace the recently-departed Kris Jenkins. Also, with Keith Rivers taken, the Panthers will have another reach pick if they want the next best linebacker, Dan Connor.

Now, on to Phillips. Stealing Chris Harris from the Bears last season, one of the safety spots is firm and occupied by a very good player. However, putting a career backup at the other spot doesn't mean they'll both pan out. This is where Phillips comes in. Losing Mike Minter to ailing knees, the Panthers need a guy to step up and be the next big hitter on the team for years to come. Phillips has the raw skill and huge learning curve to go right in there and compete -- we saw this last year with Landry and Meriwether. Phillips also comes from a long line of great Hurricane safeties, so you know what you're getting.

14. Chicago Bears(braekneck)
With the fourteenth pick, the Chicago Bears select Jonathan Stewart, RB, Oregon.

The Bears trade pick #13 to the SF 49ers for...

Jeff Ulbrich and with the 13th pick the 49ers select Vernon Gholston.

Well, back to reality. The Cedrick Benson era has finally come to a close as his paltry 3.4 yards per carry just isn't getting it done. Especially when your QB is Rex Grossman. So with the 13th pick the Chicago Bears select Jonathan Stewart (although it would have been cute for the Bears to have selected local boy Rashard Mendenhall but they didn't).

15. Detroit Lions (Fooch)
With the fifteenth pick, the Detroit Lions select Mike Williams, Charles Rogers....just kidding. The Lions select Aqib Talib, CB, Kansas.

In my very brief look at the Lions, the general consensus is that they could really use some help in their secondary. Football Outsiders had them ranked 30th against the pass. Talib brings size and speed that would really benefit the Lions at this point.

16. Arizona Cardinals (Hitchcock)
With the sixteenth pick, the Arizona Cardinals select Vernon Gholston, DE, Ohio State.

It is very unlikely that Vernon Gholston would drop this far, but if he does, the Arizona Cardinals would snatch him up in a second. An impressive combination of size (6’4, 264 lbs.) and speed, with enough versatility to play OLB in a 3-4 or DE in a 4-3, Gholston promises to be one of the top defensive players in the draft. In 2007, he had an outstanding senior season at Ohio State amassing 14 sacks in 13 games – a school record. Even more impressive was his game against school rival Michigan and top pick nominee Jake Long, where Gholston repeatedly disrupted the offensive gameplan and recorded 3 sacks. I highly recommend you check out the links Braekneck posted in the comments below as they demonstrate excellently the sort of influence Gholston can have on a game.

If Vernon Gholston had not dropped, the Cardinals would likely have drafted RB Rashard Mendenhall (Illinois) to eventually replace aging Edgerrin James. This team has a lot of young talent and, assuming QB Matt Leinart improves enough to handle starting duties, could surprise a lot of teams next year. They’re moving Antrel Rolle to safety so they might also consider CBs Aqib Talib (Kansas) or Antoine Cason (Arizona). I also expect the stock of OTs Jeff Otah (Pittsburgh) and Chris Williams (Vanderbilt) to rise in the coming weeks and would not be surprised to see the Cardinals take another offensive lineman to complement last year’s pick, Levi Brown.

17. Minnesota Vikings (cheno)
With the seventeenth pick, the Minnesota Vikings select Malcolm Kelly, WR, Oklahoma.

Quite simply, the Vikings need to do something with their passing game. They have a gift with their running game, but can't take advantage of it with Tavaris Jackson and only one legitimate receiving threat (Sidney Rice). So they need to really improve the quarterback and wide receiver spot. I think this is too high to go for Brian Brohm, so trading down is a real option. That way they might be able to get Brohm and a receiver like Desean Jackson. But if Malcolm Kelly were to really fall down this far, he's too much of a talent to ever pass up.

18. Houston Texans (jfainsf49)
With the 18th overall pick, the Houston Texans select Rashard Mendenhall, RB, Illinois.

Seeing how the Texans have drafted defense with their last two first round picks, I feel they will focus on the other side of the line with their 2008 first round pick. When I take a look at the offense, this is what I see. Matt Schaub might just be the answer at quarterback. He has a go to guy in Andre Johnson. They have proven that they can strike from anywhere on the field if given the chance.

It's really about finding a guy that can backup Ahman Green, and possibly start if Green goes down again with an injury. Green has been in the league for ten years. Now is time they start looking for his possible successor. Besides, the kid's name sounds kind of like Rush-hard. That's good enough for me!

19. Philadelphia Eagles (noava22)
With the 19th pick in the 2008 NFL Draft, the Philadelphia Eagles select Philip Merling, DE, Clemson.

Andy Reid has a penchant to take lineman with his first pick, and after getting pummeled by the Giants D-Line all season, Reid might be putting an emphasis on pass rush this offseason. After losing "The Freak" to free agency, with a talented guy falling this far in the draft, the Eagles would love nothing more than to snatch him off the board.

This pick also has trade potential, as teams might trade up for Chris Williams.

20. Tampa Bay Buccaneers (Illini49er)
With their first round pick, the Tampa Bay Buccaneers select Limas Sweed, WR, Texas.

The Bucs top two receivers are: Joey Galloway, 13 years experience and Ike Hilliard, 11 years experience. They aren't getting any younger. Their 3rd receiver is Michael Clayton, their first round pick from 2004. After a good rookie year, he has disappeared. His averages the last 3 seasons: 29 catches, 343 yards and he has one touchdown TOTAL for the last 3 seasons. DeSean Jackson's speed is tempting at this spot, but at 5-9 169, he is just too small to be a number one receiver in the NFL. Whoever the Bucs take with this pick will most likely be the number one receiver in a couple seasons.

21. Washington Redskins (Sourdoughsam69)
With the 21st pick, the Washington Redskins select Derrick Harvey, DE, Florida.

Editor's Analysis - Coming off an explosive rebirth by Andre Carter, Harvey would give the Redskins another great pass rush threat coming off 31 sacks in the last two season.

22. Dallas Cowboys (from CLE) (GB)
With the 22nd pick, the Dallas Cowboys select Reggie Smith, CB, Oklahoma.

Editor's Note - I suppose Anthony Henry is getting up there in age and Smith could give them a great guy opposite Newman.

23. Pittsburgh Steelers (wjackalope)
With the 23rd pick, the Pittsburgh Steelers select Chris Williams, OT, Vanderbilt.

There's no question that the Steelers need help on the offensive line. They had some serious trouble there last season and then were hit by the loss of Alan Faneca. It's probably too early in the draft to pick a guard, so they'll go with the best tackle available. It's a little bit of a toss up after Jake Long and Ryan Clady, with most people seeing Chris Williams and Jeff Otah as the 2nd tier at the position. It looks to me like Williams is rated a bit higher on most boards, but truthfully we'll know in about 3 years which one was the better pick. Either way the Steelers look to get a solid OT. Maybe they go with Otah because he's from Pitt, and would be the hometown pick. I'll take Williams, because, um... oh I got it - he was playing in the SEC which to me is a higher level of competition than the Big East, so I trust it a little more.

The Tennessee Titans are on the clock...

This is a FanPost and does not necessarily reflect the views of Niners Nation's writers or editors. It does reflect the views of this particular fan though, which is as important as the views of Niners Nation's writers or editors.

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At first blush
When I first saw this pick I was like what the... but after reading the justification you convinced me. It was very well thought out. Just what you would expect from the first pick in the draft (all that time to think it over).  I still think Matt Ryan will be the actual pick but it will obviously depend on how impressed the fins are with his workout at the BC pro day and his game tape.  Of course, after reading your thinking Chris Long makes a lot of sense at #1.  Unless Parcells can trade down that is.
Tom will never be as cool as Joe

by wader251 on Mar 3, 2008 9:35 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

yup
I too think that they maybe SHOULD pick Ryan, but I think they will pick Long.  I looked at a lot of mock drafts out there and probably 80% or more have them taking a defensive player.  Ryan is good and could be a solid QB in the NFL but he doesn't look like a superstar player and it's so risky taking QBs especially with the #1 pick.  I think Parcells will play it safe and go with Long.
Bring back the classic Uni's!

by wjackalope on Mar 3, 2008 3:18 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

With the 3rd Selection of the First Round...
The Altanta Falcons select QB, Matt Ryan, Boston College.

Jake Long was gone so the Falcons had to take the best player available at their biggest need because we all know Chris Redman is not the answer at QB.

Here's to hoping Albert Hanyesworth stomps on Alex Smith's head.

by methodrampage on Mar 3, 2008 1:32 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

wait a minute
I thought I had the bills ans skins.  I started doing research!
Bring back the classic Uni's!

by wjackalope on Mar 3, 2008 3:19 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

updated
On February 27 at 6:52pm I sent out an email with an updated list because we had had somebody else join the mock draft.  You initially had the bills and skins but in that email changes were made.  I can resend you the email if you'd like.  But otherwise you've got the Broncos and Steelers.
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by Fooch on Mar 3, 2008 4:29 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Emails?
I haven't gotten any emails.
Here's to hoping Albert Hanyesworth stomps on Alex Smith's head.

by methodrampage on Mar 4, 2008 7:38 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Google Groups
Did you guys join the Google Group that Fooch created to facilitate the Draft?  If not that could be why you haven't been getting the emails.
Tom will never be as cool as Joe

by wader251 on Mar 4, 2008 9:02 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

ok
I think I should be good to go now
Bring back the classic Uni's!

by wjackalope on Mar 4, 2008 10:57 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

yeah
I don't think I got that email.
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by wjackalope on Mar 4, 2008 8:53 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

A possibilty
I think the team that should go for the fins pick s the ravens. They need a QB. It has been the reason why the offense has never been good. And that's why they fired Brian Billick, no offense. No QB= average offense at best.

by montasmob69 on Mar 3, 2008 6:05 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

TROY SMITH IS THE ANSWER!
I keep reliving the moment when Steve Young almost fell down... over and over....

by howtheyscored on Mar 3, 2008 6:17 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Brian Brohm?
It looks like Brohm has fallen in mocks, but maybe they either try and grab Brohm with their 2nd round pick or they deal up into the end of the first round to get him?
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by Fooch on Mar 3, 2008 6:21 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

if someone
(i.e. ravens) want to trade into the later half of the 1st i would not mind seeing the niners do what the pats did to us last year. unless one of the premier tackles or guards or limas sweed is still on the board i dont see much difference between a late 1st or mid 2nd round pick for us.  

by sam23 on Mar 4, 2008 10:32 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Fooch made a mistake
I am picking for the Raiders not the Chiefs.  The Chiefs are picking next.
Tom will never be as cool as Joe

by wader251 on Mar 4, 2008 10:45 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

In That scenario we would trade OR
Draft Vernon Gholston.

I can't believe that Gholston is nowhere in your top 10.

The Raiders that is.

Bay Area Super Bowl in 2008!!!

by saint on Mar 6, 2008 8:42 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Raiders take McFadden
Maybe that means Bush is on the block.
Here's to hoping Albert Hanyesworth stomps on Alex Smith's head.

by methodrampage on Mar 4, 2008 10:46 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

My unstated motivation
Like you I wanted to draft bush last year so perhaps in my subconscience that was my motivation for taking McFadden as well.
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by wader251 on Mar 4, 2008 11:07 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I see...
... where you're going with this!

by sfgfan on Mar 4, 2008 11:12 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

If the Raiders did take McFadden...
I would expect them to trade Lamont Jordan, Dominic Rhodes, or both before the 2008 season. Justin Fargas is expected to be the starter, McFadden would back him up, and Michael Bush should contribute as well.

Considering the money that Jordan and Rhodes will cost, it makes more sense for them to be traded rather than Bush, who is cheap relative to his talent.

by Rocktopus on Mar 4, 2008 5:07 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

jordan
I'd heard they would cut Jordan at some point.  If they take McFadden I say keep Rhodes around until you know Bush is healthy.
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by Fooch on Mar 4, 2008 6:32 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

thats a lot of rbs
and a lot of money.  but obviously al knows what he's doing.  jamarcus russell, tommie kelly, gibril wilson, javon walker, and the rb group will probably make up eat up more than half of the team's salary.  

by sam23 on Mar 4, 2008 11:37 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Since when...
... has Al Davis ever made it seem like he knows what he's doing?  Especially in the past couple of decades.

by sfgfan on Mar 5, 2008 9:58 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Jordan and Rhodes would be gone
There's no way in hell Fargas would start over McFadden.  The Bush being on the trading block was an inside joke which you weren't priveledged to.
Here's to hoping Albert Hanyesworth stomps on Alex Smith's head.

by methodrampage on Mar 5, 2008 7:55 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Sure I'd expect that by midway through
the season McFadden would take over for Fargas, but I don't think that's a position they would just hand to him from the get-go. Fargas rushed for over 1,000 yards last year with 4 100+ yard games. He's proven to be a capable running back and there would be no need to rush McFadden. I imagine the situation playing out the same way it did with Adrian Petersen and Chester Taylor, except at a bit slower pace.
And regarding your inside joke, unless this is something you've done privately through e-mail, your man crush on Michael Bush is well-publicized here.

by Rocktopus on Mar 5, 2008 10:47 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Braekneck
What is with you and Michael Bush. Do you two go bars on Friday nights togather?

by montasmob69 on Mar 5, 2008 7:35 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

NYJ Selection
I highly doubt Vernon Gholston makes it past the Jets.
Here's to hoping Albert Hanyesworth stomps on Alex Smith's head.

by methodrampage on Mar 5, 2008 12:01 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

even with the pace signing?
i think the jets pick might be the toughest to predict. they filled a lot of holes in free agency.  seems like they might be a good trade candidate too.  i'm not saying they won't take gholston, he and pace on the outside would be nice, i just dont know.  

by sam23 on Mar 5, 2008 3:19 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

If you were them
Would you pass on Shawn Merriman because you signed Pace and had Bryan Thomas or Victor Hobson as your other OLB.  Gholston is a prototypical OLB for a 3-4 and has a chance at being a dominant force like Merriman.
Here's to hoping Albert Hanyesworth stomps on Alex Smith's head.

by methodrampage on Mar 5, 2008 3:56 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

i dont know
much about gholston at all.  thats why i said i dont know if they will.  i'm just surprised theyd spend a ton of money on a guy like pace if they thought theyd land another hybrid de/olb in the 1st round.

by sam23 on Mar 5, 2008 10:03 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

You might be right
Initially I forgot about the Jets signing Pace but in all seriousness I'd draft the dude just based on this picture

http://photo.the-ozone.net/photos/2007_2008/Football/07-09-22-FB-0045.jpg

(sorry I have no idea how to paste photos)

You tube him.

Here's a couple highlight from the BCS Championship game he's pretty damn explosive.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FJAOY9iLsno&NR=1

He also dominated the combine with 37 reps on the bench press (tied for the highest among any player with Jake Long), ran a 4.64 40, 35.5" vertical and a 10'4" broad jump.  He also had a hell of a game against Jake Long when Ohio St. played Michigan.

Here's to hoping Albert Hanyesworth stomps on Alex Smith's head.

by methodrampage on Mar 6, 2008 7:49 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

wow
yea thats impressive, and if he does fall past 12 like he has in this mock draft WE should trade up to grab him.  him opposite lawson with willis and moore/thomas in the middle? wow.  

by sam23 on Mar 6, 2008 10:49 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

wow2
did you see the youtube clip where he runs THROUGH jake long AND mike hart to get to chad henne.  i'm with on trading up for this cat.  he and lawson would form an awesome pass rushing olb team...with willis in the middle singletary and nolan might explode with anticipation.

by sam23 on Mar 6, 2008 11:00 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Gholston
Gholston is sick.  Yesterday at his pro day he ran a 4.58 40, and had a 42" vertical.  That's a drop of .06 and an increase of 6.5".  Several players at OSU have been quoted as saying his arms are bigger than their heads and/or legs.

The track might be fast, but gravity doesn't lie. Neither does the game film.  PLUS he plays the "leo" position at OSU, which means he has some experience dropping in to coverage.  Throw in the fact that he tied Mike Vrabel's school record for sacks in a single season AND had 1 of the 2 career sacks recorded against Jake Long (a top-5 pick), and I don't know

As a student at OSU, I have seen Gholston play and he is the real deal.  If he falls out of the top 10, which I don't think will happen, I hope the niners or the browns move up to draft him.

p.s. Mario Manningham ran in the high 4.5s, checked in at 181 lbs, and "It was also obvious to the trained eye that Manningham's running technique was sloppy, and that's putting it politely." at the combine...anyone still want to use that 1st rounder on him?

by thatboylookslikerufio on Mar 8, 2008 4:40 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Lance Stallworth?
Thanks for cleaning that up for me Fooch.
Bring back the YAC!

by jfainsf49 on Mar 5, 2008 12:36 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

no worries
I did a double-take when I saw the name.
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by Fooch on Mar 5, 2008 12:48 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

patriots
rivers that high?  i agree they will probably trade the pick, but if not i dont think they take rivers, thats pretty high for him.

by sam23 on Mar 5, 2008 1:53 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

I agree.
I agree that if they don't trade the pick, they won't take Rivers.  Someone they could consider, though, is Vernon Gholston (a college DE) to play OLB in their 3-4.  Considering they don't need an "immediate" impact at LB, it's the perfect opportunity to bring in someone like Gholston, who's fairly good at the pass rush, and teach him how to drop back into coverage as well.

If not Gholston, I think going with a DB like Leodis McKelvin or Aqib Talib (though Talib is a reach) in hopes of grooming someone to take over Samuels place in their lineup.

by sfgfan on Mar 5, 2008 2:18 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

+1
They take Gholston or a CB with this pick.
Here's to hoping Albert Hanyesworth stomps on Alex Smith's head.

by methodrampage on Mar 5, 2008 2:21 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

In response to sam23 as well
For what it's worth, I did think of drafting Gholston. I didn't because Gholston is listed as playing on the d-line. Heck, I didn't even think about him switching positions to play linebacker, duh.

Following my original thought about Gholston being a d-lineman, I didn't draft him because the Pats are pretty well set on the d-line with Seymour, Warren and Wilfork.

Bring back the YAC!

by jfainsf49 on Mar 5, 2008 2:36 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

yep
gholston or a db, but i can see where the previous pick by the jets might have thrown him off a little.

by sam23 on Mar 5, 2008 3:16 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

If this is how the draft goes
The Niners better get on the phone and start trying to trade up.
Here's to hoping Albert Hanyesworth stomps on Alex Smith's head.

by methodrampage on Mar 5, 2008 4:01 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Gholston
Here's to hoping Albert Hanyesworth stomps on Alex Smith's head.

by methodrampage on Mar 5, 2008 6:48 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I like the guy too...
... but what would you be willing to give up to move up to the 11-15 picks?

by sfgfan on Mar 6, 2008 8:57 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Ulbrich...duh
I'd seriously consider giving up the #29 pick and next years first rounder (which in my wishful thinking head is a mid-late first round pick) and Ulbrich for good measure.  If Gholston is the next Merriman, and I think he's just may be, then in my mind he's worth it.
Here's to hoping Albert Hanyesworth stomps on Alex Smith's head.

by methodrampage on Mar 6, 2008 9:15 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Hmm.
If he really is the next Merriman, I don't think it'll matter too much if next year's pick is a mid-to-late first rounder or an early one.  That just isn't a very common type of talent, and I understand where you're coming from.  It's actually a pretty tempting thought.

by sfgfan on Mar 6, 2008 9:27 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I think the potential is there
Wether he actually fulfills the potential is another question but the guy looks like an absolute beast.  Plus we'd have some killer freakish Vernons on the team.

http://photo.the-ozone.net/photos/2007_2008/Football/07-09-01-FB-0080.jpg

http://i.a.cnn.net/si/2006/players/08/15/core.davis0821/t1_davis.jpg

Here's to hoping Albert Hanyesworth stomps on Alex Smith's head.

by methodrampage on Mar 6, 2008 9:48 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

matchup
This would be one hell of a matchup during practice...  
Joe and Steve were under the same system for years... don't expect Smith to be super so soon.

by bayboy on Mar 6, 2008 10:27 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Ulbrich...jajajaja
ULBRICH SUCKS
Joe and Steve were under the same system for years... don't expect Smith to be super so soon.

by bayboy on Mar 6, 2008 9:30 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Glenn Dorsey
I can't believe he's dropped this far. I imagine the Saints would love for him to fall in their laps.

by Rocktopus on Mar 5, 2008 6:12 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Dorsey
Wouldn't the Niners just love to have him at seven? sigh
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by cheno on Mar 5, 2008 6:15 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Dorsey
I don't think the 49ers would really be THAT high on him at all.  The guy was a college DT, but he's kind of on the small side.  From what I've read, he has trouble holding the point AND generating push, so what is it that he can really do?  And everyone also knows how Mike Nolan is about injuries.

Would you really use that high of a pick with those kind of question marks?  Especially if someone like Gholston is available?

by sfgfan on Mar 6, 2008 8:55 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

we can't make trades can we?
because the Broncos would be happy to trade away a few later round picks to move up a few spots and nab Dorsey here.
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by wjackalope on Mar 5, 2008 6:21 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

trades
For a basic mock draft I'm not in favor of trades.  In analysis for your specific picks I'd certainly be interested in hearing whether you think they'll make a trade both in real life and in response to the picks up to that point.
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by Fooch on Mar 5, 2008 6:48 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Draft Challenge Idea
I know last year we did a little game where we picked like 10 guys the Niners would draft throughout the whole draft.  But I'd be interested to try and mock draft what each of us thinks the entire first round is going to look like.  What do you guys think?
Here's to hoping Albert Hanyesworth stomps on Alex Smith's head.

by methodrampage on Mar 5, 2008 6:52 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Kenny Watson
Another decent Cincy back.
Merton Hanks, 'nuff said.

by jtoj on Mar 5, 2008 9:26 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

HEY BRAEKNECK You're email is bouncing back
You're on the clock with the Bears and I just emailed you and it bounced back as failing permanently.  Something up with your email service?
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by Fooch on Mar 6, 2008 10:39 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

You might have an old email
I updated it awhile back though.  Should be the same as what you have but @gmail.com instead.
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by methodrampage on Mar 6, 2008 11:31 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

James Hardy the first WR off the board!?
In the words of some guy who might be James Earl Jones but doesn't quiiiite sound like James Earl Jone: "Noooooooooooo!"
I keep reliving the moment when Steve Young almost fell down... over and over....

by howtheyscored on Mar 6, 2008 10:48 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

i dont see
how hardy goes before sweed.

by sam23 on Mar 6, 2008 10:53 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

The Bears trade pick #13 to the SF 49ers for...
Jeff Ulbrich and with the 13th pick the 49ers select Vernon Gholston.

Well, back to reality.  The Cedrick Benson era has finally come to a close as his paltry 3.4 yards per carry just isn't getting it done.  Especially when your QB is Rex Grossman.

So with the 13th pick the Chicago Bears select Jonathan Stewart (although it would have been cute for the Bears to have selected local boy Rashard Mendenhall but they didn't).

Here's to hoping Albert Hanyesworth stomps on Alex Smith's head.

by methodrampage on Mar 6, 2008 11:46 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

Because
Stewart is better than Mendenhall.
Here's to hoping Albert Hanyesworth stomps on Alex Smith's head.

by methodrampage on Mar 6, 2008 10:39 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Interesting mock draft
Jenkins the first CB, Dorsey 12th, Hardy first WR, Gholeston not picked yet, and Stewart over Mendenhall. Not saying they are bd picks, just going against what most people think.

by montasmob69 on Mar 6, 2008 3:48 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Yeah it's sort of funny how it's perceived
as blasphemous if somebody's mock draft contradicts the consensus when the consensus is largely based on what people saw on some other site or from some dubious rumor from some draft "expert." Even Mel Kiper and the other draft "experts" are usually way off when it comes to the actual draft.

by Rocktopus on Mar 6, 2008 3:57 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Well
There's usually a pretty accurate consensus for the top ten, though. After that it will usually stop being even remotely accurate, but the so called "authorities" usually have a pretty accurate pulse on the top picks.
I keep reliving the moment when Steve Young almost fell down... over and over....

by howtheyscored on Mar 6, 2008 4:03 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I think there is a general idea
but nobody ever predicts the top ten exactly as it comes out. Just last year, Brady Quinn, Alan Branch, and Adrian Peterson all went lower than the consensus generally agreed they would go. Teams for the most part do a really good job of hiding their true targets and the experts place too much importance on false rankings rather than team need.

by Rocktopus on Mar 6, 2008 5:21 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Actually...
... I think it's a little greyer than that.  The reason I think that most mocks and predictions are wrong is not because of lack of understanding of the prospects or needs of teams.  Rather, I think the problem lies in the fact that most people who slap mocks together ("experts" or regulars like us) don't generally follow the other teams closely or understand how their psyches work.

In simpler (and shorter terms), teams approach the draft differently, but most mocks treat the teams like they're all headed by the same GM or front office.  Some times take the best player available in the first round, and some take players based on need.  They don't always go the same direction.

The 49ers are a very good example of this.  You can argue that most (if not all) of their first rounders have fit a need, but I could also argue that the 49ers just feel they need help everywhere in any given year.  Patrick Willis wasn't a necessity pick, I think he was picked because the 49ers liked him and felt he was the best available.  The same can be said for Joe Staley and probably Vernon Davis and Manny Lawson.

by sfgfan on Mar 7, 2008 8:44 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

if the real draft
goes anything like this draft I'll be shocked
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by wjackalope on Mar 6, 2008 4:54 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

We completely disagree
Personally, I'll be shocked if this draft goes anything like the real draft, instead of the other way around. I just can't understand your point of view on this one.
I keep reliving the moment when Steve Young almost fell down... over and over....

by howtheyscored on Mar 6, 2008 5:39 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

no no no
you have it all wrong, it's not that this draft won't go anything like the real draft, it's that the real draft won't go anything like this draft.  Except for the #1 pick of course.
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by wjackalope on Mar 6, 2008 10:46 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I don't know what you and Hitchcock
are smoking but where is the consensus that Mendenhall is better than Stewart?  I'd say the consensus has it the other way around, just about every thing I've read has Stewart as the #2 RB in the draft.  And as far as I'm concerned I've watched a hell of a lot more Oregon games than I have Illinois.  Stewart is bigger and faster than Mendenhall and that's enough for me.
Here's to hoping Albert Hanyesworth stomps on Alex Smith's head.

by methodrampage on Mar 6, 2008 10:50 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I've seen some mock drafts favoring Stewart,
some favoring Mendenhall. I was just curious why you thought Stewart was better. I think Stewart's gonna be an awesome NFL player, but Mendenhall seems likely to be just as good. Your right that Stewart is bigger (but only in weight and then by 6 lbs alone) but Mendenhall actually ran the faster 40 at the combine. In addition, Mendenhall is a much better passcatcher out of the backfield. In spite of this, I'm still not sold on Mendenhall being better.

by Rocktopus on Mar 6, 2008 11:45 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Stewart vs. Mendenhall
I think Stewart weighed in at 235 and Mendenhall was in at 225.  Mendenhall was only faster in the 40 (by 0.03 seconds) but Stewart was faster in the 20 and 10 yard dashes and sports a faster low 40 time.  Stewart also benched more (although a pretty lame measure for RB), had a higher vertical and bested Mendenhall's broad jump by a foot.
Here's to hoping Albert Hanyesworth stomps on Alex Smith's head.

by methodrampage on Mar 7, 2008 7:15 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Scouting debate by combine figures:
Amused HowTheyScored is amused.
I keep reliving the moment when Steve Young almost fell down... over and over....

by howtheyscored on Mar 7, 2008 10:08 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Simple things
amuse simple people.
Here's to hoping Albert Hanyesworth stomps on Alex Smith's head.

by methodrampage on Mar 7, 2008 10:35 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Hey, hey!
Simple minds, sure. But people? That just hurts.
I keep reliving the moment when Steve Young almost fell down... over and over....

by howtheyscored on Mar 7, 2008 11:08 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

My apologies
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by methodrampage on Mar 7, 2008 1:11 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

And the iterim selection for the Lions
Malcolm Kelly, WR, Oklahoma.
Here's to hoping Albert Hanyesworth stomps on Alex Smith's head.

by methodrampage on Mar 7, 2008 7:20 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

I just got this joke
right after I posted the comment below
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by wjackalope on Mar 7, 2008 2:28 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I just realized the Lions are on the clock
I'm going to protest if they don't take a WR with this pick - I mean come on!  
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by wjackalope on Mar 7, 2008 2:27 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Lions
If I don't get a pick from our Lions guy (wader251) by the end of the night I'll post one myself.
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by Fooch on Mar 7, 2008 6:03 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

yea, please do
or turn it over to someone like howtheyscored who checks in more often and seems intelligent enough to handle the massive responsibility.

by sam23 on Mar 8, 2008 1:51 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

The Vikings also have Bernard Berrian
who they signed this offseason. I don't think it precludes the drafting of a WR, but it might push them in the direction of a DE (they were our main competitor for Justin Smith) such as Philip Merling or Derrick Harvey or an OT.

by Rocktopus on Mar 9, 2008 10:55 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Whoops.
Forgot about that. Still, I think Kelly is a good enough talent that you can't pass him up that late.
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by cheno on Mar 9, 2008 11:09 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

arent they
talking to javon kearse?  i think they are the leading(only) candidate to land him.

by sam23 on Mar 9, 2008 11:44 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

re
Naw, Kearse is back in Tenneke.
Merton Hanks, 'nuff said.

by jtoj on Mar 9, 2008 12:13 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Apparently Kearse signed with the Titans yesterday
Minnesota was pushing hard but the Titans signed Kearse before Minnesota could even get him on a plane. Sound familiar?
That's two DEs the Viking missed out on now, and both they were pursuing intensely. In February, Kenechi Udeze was diagnosed with leukemia but the severity of the disease was uncertain. This is pure conjecture, but with Erasmus James on the other end, and considering how determined the Vikings have been to get a DE, I believe they are preparing to lose Udeze for much of the season. If the Vikings cannot find a DE in free agency or through trade, I imagine they will pickup one up with their first pick in the draft.

by Rocktopus on Mar 9, 2008 12:23 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

yea
i think de is their biggest need with berrian on board and kearse and smith going elsewhere.  but it would be tough to pass up kelly

by sam23 on Mar 10, 2008 10:35 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

TB Selection
"The Bucs top two receivers are: Joey Galloway, 13 years experience and Ike Hilliard, 11 years experience."

The above statement is wrong.  They signed Antonio Bryant, who's likely to slide into the #2 spot.

Here's to hoping Albert Hanyesworth stomps on Alex Smith's head.

by methodrampage on Mar 10, 2008 4:31 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Braekneck, just so you know, when I made the pick
the above statement was correct. However I think Antonio Bryant is also likely to slide into the back of a police car at some point this year. He is a head case, and any team that puts their trust in him will be burned.

by illini49er on Mar 10, 2008 6:20 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

So what?
You still live in Illinois and I don't give a damn what you think.
Here's to hoping Albert Hanyesworth stomps on Alex Smith's head.

by methodrampage on Mar 10, 2008 9:21 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Whatever LOSER
I was born in Mt. View and raised in San Jose.  The only reason I'm not there now is that when I got out of the military, the idea of raising kids in that smog filled, crime ridden, over priced, overpopulated paradise that the Bay Area has become didn't exactly appeal to me. Even if someone wasn't from the Bay Area, they have every right to state an opinion as you do. Probably more, based on your ignorant post. Get over yourself.

by illini49er on Mar 11, 2008 8:56 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

whoa whoa whoa
we're all friends here.  Let's just calm down and remember that we're all rooting for the same team.  It's OK to disagree.  
Bring back the classic Uni's!

by wjackalope on Mar 11, 2008 9:12 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

LOL, too much!
Apparently irony is lost on you.  My comment was as ignorant as yours, as it was intended, about Bryant sliding into a cop car.  

I also didn't say you can't express your opinion I just stated that I, personally, don't care what your opinion is and for you to take exception to that one might believe that it is you that needs to get over themselves.

Here's to hoping Albert Hanyesworth stomps on Alex Smith's head.

by methodrampage on Mar 11, 2008 9:54 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

This isn't difficult to understand
how long is it going to take you to figure out that sarcasm doesn't work on a message board.
Tom will never be as cool as Joe

by wader251 on Mar 11, 2008 7:59 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Irony /= Sarcasm
I'm not going to change my ways to appease people like you wader, as it's quite possible for sarcasm to be read just fine off a message board.  But if somebody what's to get there panties in a bundle because they didn't get the irony or sarcasm behind a post that's fine by me as it's no sweat off my back.
Here's to hoping Albert Hanyesworth stomps on Alex Smith's head.

by methodrampage on Mar 12, 2008 7:34 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Sarcasm
[HTS inserts sarcasm meter here]

by sfgfan on Mar 12, 2008 9:05 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

My specialty
I keep reliving the moment when Steve Young almost fell down... over and over....

by howtheyscored on Mar 12, 2008 4:48 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

wow
are you just angry because youre getting 50 feet of snow dumped on your head and we're out here where its 75 and sunny?

by sam23 on Mar 11, 2008 4:54 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I went to the beach yesterday
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by methodrampage on Mar 12, 2008 7:34 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

What's going on with the bold underline?
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by howtheyscored on Mar 10, 2008 4:43 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

J.T. O'Sullivan
Apparently Martz has a huge man crush on Sullivan as he thinks O'Sullivan has an equal shot at starting over Smith and/or Hill.

http://www.sacbee.com/static/weblogs/49ers/archives/011058.html

Smith's day are numbered.

Here's to hoping Albert Hanyesworth stomps on Alex Smith's head.

by methodrampage on Mar 11, 2008 3:06 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

nope
Braekneck, i'll bet you 1000 fake dollars that Alex Smith throws for atleast 3,000 yards, 20+ tds and 12 or less ints. Trust me. He will be all-pro in two years or less, and their will e complete agreement that he is not a bust  after week 3, when he has 750 passing yards, 5 tds and only 1 int.

by montasmob69 on Mar 12, 2008 11:38 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

hmmm
I smell a potential wager...maybe the loser has to bow down in front of everybody at Niners Nation and proclaim the greatness of the winner?
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by Fooch on Mar 13, 2008 7:06 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Are you drunk?
Here's to hoping Albert Hanyesworth stomps on Alex Smith's head.

by methodrampage on Mar 13, 2008 8:03 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hmm..
It's kind of difficult to assume he's going to be an All-Pro in two years.  Chances are, he's going to be on his fifth offensive coordinator in 5 years next season, and with that comes uncertainty, again.

by sfgfan on Mar 13, 2008 8:40 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

my pick will be up soon
by lunchtimeish at the latest
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by wjackalope on Mar 13, 2008 7:39 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

posted my pick on the group
steelers take Chris Williams
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by wjackalope on Mar 13, 2008 8:59 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Fooch
The formatting's gone wonky somewhere in the main post, and it makes it a little hard to read.
I keep reliving the moment when Steve Young almost fell down... over and over....

by howtheyscored on Mar 13, 2008 10:00 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

is that better?
I had a period where there should have been a >.  I'm assuming you were talking about where the Steelers pick was listed right next to the previous editor's note, or is it something else?
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by Fooch on Mar 13, 2008 10:13 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think..
he might be talking about the undelining.. its hard to see
Joe and Steve were under the same system for years... don't expect Smith to be super so soon.

by bayboy on Mar 13, 2008 10:40 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, this
Starting with "Malcolm Kelley, WR" for the Vikings pick, everything that follows is bold and underlined when I look at it. Is it not the same for everybody else?
I keep reliving the moment when Steve Young almost fell down... over and over....

by howtheyscored on Mar 13, 2008 12:21 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

no
your computer is on crack
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by wjackalope on Mar 13, 2008 12:37 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

It's fine for me
I'm not seeing any problems.
We are not who I thought we were.

by marcello on Mar 13, 2008 12:38 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Sam here
I feel your pain HTS.

by jfainsf49 on Mar 13, 2008 12:46 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Fruedian slip
Now we know your real name! And to think all this time I thought it started with a j.
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by howtheyscored on Mar 13, 2008 5:16 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

everything
looks a-ok to me
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by wjackalope on Mar 13, 2008 10:51 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Suggestion
Could we perhaps have another thread started with the same order? There are so many comments that's it's hard to get through.
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by cheno on Mar 13, 2008 8:11 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

next pick
When I get the next pick I'll create a new thread.  I'll plug in the first 23 picks without their analysis and then the remaining picks will have their analysis.  That work?
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by Fooch on Mar 13, 2008 8:41 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

that sounds good
Bring back the classic Uni's!

by wjackalope on Mar 13, 2008 11:14 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

of course
if we were one of the new beta sites, we could just press "C" to get to the new comments
Bring back the classic Uni's!

by wjackalope on Mar 13, 2008 11:53 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

If you use firefox...
... you can always put CTRL+F to open the find bar and type in [new]

by sfgfan on Mar 14, 2008 8:59 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Or
You can set it up so all you have to do is type and it will search.  That's how I like it, although it will make for problems on the new sites if the word I'm searching for starts with c, x, or z (which is thankfully a low likelihood).
We are not who I thought we were.

by marcello on Mar 14, 2008 12:18 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

You can do that with IE, too.
I keep reliving the moment when Steve Young almost fell down... over and over....

by howtheyscored on Mar 14, 2008 3:47 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I haven't used IE in a while...
Does it open up a toolbar that stays open so that you can just click "Next" or something equivalent?

by sfgfan on Mar 14, 2008 4:15 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yup, that's it.
I keep reliving the moment when Steve Young almost fell down... over and over....

by howtheyscored on Mar 14, 2008 5:04 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Titan's pick
Up on Goog groups.
Sorry it took a while.
Merton Hanks, 'nuff said.

by jtoj on Mar 13, 2008 11:16 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

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