Niners Nation Scouting Report: Red Bryant, NT, Texas A&M

by Fooch on Apr 13, 2008 10:13 PM PDT in News Comment 7 comments

I've been looking over various options for the 49ers second round pick in the mock draft, and of course in real life, since that's what this is all about. During my research, Matt Miller over at Mocking The Draft said he's turned into a big time Red Bryant fan. Red Bryant was the nose tackle at Texas A&M this past year and Matt's convinced he could be one hell of a nose tackle for our 3-4 for the foreseeable future. I know there has been some discussion of Frank Okam, but I wanted to get people's thoughts on Bryant.

From his scout perspective, Matt has plenty to say about Bryant:

Overall: Bryant is coming into the NFL at the perfect time. Most teams are heading into the draft looking for a big bodied nose tackle who can shut down running lanes. That is Red Bryant. He'll be an immediate impact at nose tackle, clogging the A gaps on run downs.

Technique/Leverage: Doesn't always get a full arm extension. Will lean into the blocker too often. Can get too narrow in his stance. Loses his base. Does a good job of playing low. Has a very impressive hip shake, very surprising for his size.

Strength: Has the strength to break or take down a double team. Very strong lower body. Arms are not as strong.

I wandered over to the World Wide Leader to get Scout's Inc's take as well:

Strengths: Shows good initial quickness for size, aggressive and makes the occasional play in the backfield. Has excellent bulk, though inconsistent in this area can stay low to the ground and is stout at the point of attack . . . Has excellent size and can anchor when teams run at him. Flashes an effective rip move and shows a good not great motor when rushing the passer. Gets hands up when isn't going to get to the quarterback, times jumps well and excels at tipping passes.

Weaknesses: Lacks ideal closing speed . . . Takes too long to change directions, doesn't show a wide variety of pass rush moves and doesn't force offensive linemen to redirect in pass protection . . . Doesn't always use hands to protect legs and struggles to fight over cut blocks. Lacks ideal range and isn't going to make many plays in pursuit. Gets too caught up in individual battles, takes too long to locate the ball carrier and gets caught out of position at times.

Overall: Bryant doesn't have ideal closing speed or athletic ability but he has the quickness, size and toughness to develop into an excellent run stuffer and adequate interior pass rusher if he can stay healthy and sharpen his technique. He projects as an early second-day pick.

While I can see why people would like Bryant and how he could slot in at nose tackle, there seem to be a lot of questions marks. I have not watched nearly as much film as the scouts so take my thoughts with a grain of salt. While I don't know how recent the ESPN scouting report is, there are some similarities between it and New Era's report to make me think twice about some of those weaknesses. I'm pretty sure of who I'll grab with the second round pick, but I wonder if the 49ers feel the same way.

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IS THIS GOOD - OR BAD

Maybe its just me, but it strikes me that the evaluations of this big kid do not settle any issue - or truly answer any questions. Bryant sounds like pretty much what we already have in Franklin, Oliver, etc (and they have NFL experience, so it would seem). Again - maybe its just me.

by 9ernutt on Apr 14, 2008 11:09 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs

Great Minds think Alike...

I did a prospect preview on Red over at Big Cat Country. I think he's got all the fundamentals of being a very good defensive tackle. He's the sort of guy that will make the players around him look better, but won't have the flashy stats to go with it.

-Chris

by Big Cat Country on Apr 14, 2008 11:42 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs

OTHER VIEWS OF BIG RED

I noted, with interest, moments ago that two of the three "expert" draft analysis-types I have bookmarked rate Trevor Laws ahead of Red Bryant. And one thing noted in their analysis, and watching him (Laws) on tape is his extreme non-stop motor (one of the 'knocks' on Bryant). Laws motor was also very evident during the past season games I watched.

by 9ernutt on Apr 14, 2008 2:11 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

Laws v Bryant

I agree that a low-motor nose tackle would be problematic. I mean, the nose's whole job is to occupy blockers (C and G) play after play to allow the linebackers to make plays behind and around him. So a low-motor type at NT makes little sense when it's all about effort. However, Laws would play DE in our scheme. He's definitely not a nose (listed at 6', 300) and he even played DE at Notre Dame in their version of the 3-4. So making the choice be between Bryant and Laws is kind of a false comparison.

by cornball on Apr 14, 2008 4:59 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

RE: Laws v Bryant

Not that I'd have a problem drafting Laws. I do think he'd be a good fit at DE for us.

by cornball on Apr 14, 2008 5:00 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

YOUR WORDS RING TRUE

I should have been more clear re: Bryant vs Laws.
My intent is to say that if there is a choice between Red Bryant and Laws - take Laws. I readily acknowledge they play different positions.

I have watched Laws play a number of times. And I was impressed - and again when he was jumping thru the 'assessment' hoops recently. He just seems to be more "bang for the buck" in my opinion - position notwithstanding. I suggest he would be a tremendous asset since we don't currently have (other than P W, of course) a bunch of aggressive types with a real attitude hungry to get after people and kick some collective butt (Ooops, forgot we did just get Smith from Cincy - but that's what I'm talkin' bout).

by 9ernutt on Apr 15, 2008 1:04 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs